# CTTM 2 reports: people act friendlier, but how long does it last? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 15, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551 "2007-09-15T23:23:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Savages5CB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savages5cb/32/2181_2.png) [@Savages5CB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savages5CB)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/1 "2007-09-15T23:23:11Z")
Anyone try this yet? I’m thinking of adding this to my stash of Ammunition, and 2-Go bottles of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and TUTH… ---
**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/2 "2007-09-15T23:28:08Z")
Makes people more friendly around you in my experience. That’s really all I’ve noticed. At doses from 1 spray to 3 sprays. Same effect, no change. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/3 "2007-09-15T23:37:20Z")
Tater thinks CTTM is incredible. Never got much out of IO, but CTTM does the job. Just doesnt last as long as the real SmartMones products. 50/50 alpha/beta androstenol. ---
**Author:** ![Savages5CB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savages5cb/32/2181_2.png) [@Savages5CB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savages5CB)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/4 "2007-09-15T23:45:29Z")
Hey Tater, how long do you think they lasted while you wore them? Couple of hours? ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/5 "2007-09-15T23:47:32Z")
2-3 hours. By the 4th hour Tater was phero-naked. CTTM is good for the hair. Slows down the dissipation rate a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Savages5CB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savages5cb/32/2181_2.png) [@Savages5CB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savages5CB)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/6 "2007-09-15T23:51:11Z")
Thanks Tater… BTW, What did you observe CTTM did for you? ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/7 "2007-09-15T23:51:45Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > 2-3 hours. By the 4th hour Tater was phero-naked. CTTM is good for the hair. Slows down the dissipation rate a bit. I though spraying in the hair increased diffusion 😕. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/8 "2007-09-16T00:01:26Z")
Lasts longer for me on the hair than on the skin (neck). Doesnt get as warm as quickly. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/9 "2007-09-16T13:34:27Z")
In my opinion, you get more effects from mixing Instant Openess + [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) than using CTTM2, and they last much longer, too. I’ve used a full 30ml bottle of CTTM2 and the instant line aiding pheros and ingredients in IO and IH really make the difference in effects and lasting and, IMHO it’s a big difference. ---
**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/10 "2007-09-16T15:16:34Z")
> [@capone](#): > > In my opinion, you get more effects from mixing Instant Openess + Instant Honesty than using Come Talk To Me Mix 2, and they last much longer, too. I’ve used a full 30ml bottle of CTTM2 and the instant line aiding pheros and ingredients in Instant Openness and Instant Honesty really make the difference in effects and lasting and, IMHO it’s a big difference. Jas spoke about this as well brotha, the IS and IH are far more better and advanced in comparison to the CTTM2 mix. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bighead1221](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@bighead1221](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bighead1221)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/11 "2007-09-16T15:40:24Z")
what’s the difference between CTTM and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Instant Honesty?? Is it just the the amounts of alpha and beta androstenol in them??? I’m thinking of getting something with androstenol in it, preferably alpha adrostenol, but I’m stuck inn choosing between CTTM, Instant Openness, or just the Alpha Androstenol by itself…help me out guys. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/12 "2007-09-16T21:16:36Z")
Since youre new i defer to the guys who have been here longer than me. I get nothing from [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Instant Honesty works incredibly well for me and CTTM seems to do what Instant Openness is supposed to do. The Instant line has special tweaks and buffers to make the product more effective while reducing unwanted side effects. CTTM doesnt have any of that. It also lasts half as long because theres nothing there to keep it from dissipating too quickly. At least for me, the 3 hours of CTTM works reliably. Even when i do 16x (4 4x sprays) of Instant Openness, it feels like nothing. But Tater is a big boy. Maybe i put out so much androstenol on my own that i need crude exposure to get a reaction from anyone. Go with the advice of the more experienced guys on the forum. Get the Instant Openness which is always better than pure Alpha Androstenol. ---
**Author:** ![Savages5CB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savages5cb/32/2181_2.png) [@Savages5CB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savages5CB)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/13 "2007-09-22T06:38:01Z")
Tater, is the CTTM 2 as good or maybe better than the first CTTM mix? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/14 "2007-09-22T08:02:26Z")
I’ve used many androstenol mixes and my experience has been somewhat different. First, I found the verbal stimulation aspect to be similar among all of them. Basically the more I use, the more talking I get. There must be some small differences but darned if I could measure them: each person reacts a little differently to the same mix, so I can only say these were all friendly and talkative mixes. For example, I 'd wear the same dose of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and one person would be tight lipped another loud and verbose while another is confiding. Seems to be no pattern other than most folks would talk more than normal, especially if I started the conversation. I have LS beta and alpha androstenol, Androtics alpha androstenol and an unmentionable pheromone wholesaler’s beta androstenol. I also have premixed commercial androstenol products such as CTTM 2, Instant Honesty and Scent of Eros. Reactions from CTTM 2, Instant Honesty and the various homebrew mixes of beta and alpha androstenol have proved to be in the same ball park. The only somewhat different reaction came from Scent of Eros. It too is social but somewhat more restrained and respectful, perhaps because of the 20% androsterone content. Scent of Eros seems to be a better work product than CTTM, Instant Honesty or pure shots of chemset androstenol. Why? Too much androstenol without 'Androsterone or 'none can get outta hand. But, what the hay, I like 'em all and will eventually drain all the bottles out with tomfoolery. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/15 "2007-09-22T22:10:47Z")
Tater has only tried CTTM 2. How do i ask, who is the unmentionable [pheromone](https://a314.com/) wholesaler, or more like it, why are they unmentionable? Bad experience? ---
**Author:** ![kinggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c0e974/32.png) [@kinggs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kinggs)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/16 "2007-09-22T22:17:26Z")
does this make people talk to you, or just talk in general? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/17 "2007-09-22T22:39:15Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Tater has only tried CTTM 2. > > How do i ask, who is the unmentionable pheromone wholesaler, or more like it, why are they unmentionable? Bad experience? Tater you cant mention wholesalers by name in the forum. Its one of the rules. You can mention other products or stores that resell a product just not the mone suppliers. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/18 "2007-09-22T22:44:57Z")
oh, so you cant go direct to the source. sounds fair but… does that mean i cant nag for a picture of you slathered with maple syrup, but i can get it through a retailer? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/19 "2007-09-22T22:57:23Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > oh, so you cant go direct to the source. sounds fair but… > > does that mean i cant nag for a picture of you slathered with maple syrup, but i can get it through a retailer? Well androtics makes there own they just dont want major sources revealed on the forum. They have no problem with compatition from the other sellers though. There product usually comes out on top. You will have to get my maple syrup picture right from the source. All the retailers sold out and I havnt resupplied them 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![KnowledgeIsPower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/knowledgeispower/32/1201_2.png) [@KnowledgeIsPower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KnowledgeIsPower)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/20 "2007-09-22T23:05:39Z")
I can also add some advice on CTTM2. I’ve never tried IO or IH so I can’t comment on those, but I absolutely LOVE CTMM2. I’ve found it to be best when mixed with IFM and IS and that’s pretty much the mix I always use. It makes everyone simply want to chat with you. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551.md?page=2)