# CTTM 2 reports: people act friendlier, but how long does it last? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 15, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551 "2007-09-15T23:23:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jroyd14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c89c15/32.png) [@Jroyd14](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jroyd14)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/21 "2007-09-23T20:22:03Z")
In my experience CTTM2 beats [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) & Instant Openess hands down! The following mix: 2 Sprays Ammo to neck & chest 2 Sprays of CTTM2 to chest & hair 1 Spray of Female magic to back of neck 2 Sprays of Shine to Chest and jawline This mix had Hot women coming up and initiating conversation with me at the club all night and most would start with " Do i recognise you from somewhere…" It was like everybody knew me but they didn’t know where from 😉 To be honest its got to be the CTTM2 because i have used the same mix before but with Honesty & Openess and both are nowhere near as effective 🆒 I now swear by the stuff ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/22 "2007-09-23T23:07:11Z")
Thats EXACTLY what happens. People come from nowhere and say they know you! I go out of town to cities and places ive never been to somebody will say they know me. Maybe they just say anything to start a conversation? CTTM2, for me, does what [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) should do. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/23 "2007-09-23T23:44:42Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Thats EXACTLY what happens. People come from nowhere and say they know you! I go out of town to cities and places ive never been to somebody will say they know me. Maybe they just say anything to start a conversation? Come Talk To Me Mix 2, for me, does what Instant Openness should do. I just bought some CTTM Tater on your recommendation. I also bought a big vat of maple syrup over at the costco. 😉 Tish ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/24 "2007-09-23T23:48:14Z")
> [@](#): > > I also bought a big vat of maple syrup over at the costco. > > [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/wink.gif](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/wink.gif) Tater does his hot-biscuit dance in anticipation! Imagine Britney Spears doing the macarena real fast… ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/25 "2007-09-23T23:49:41Z")
Does anyone have a theory on why IO works for some people and CTTM works for others? ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/26 "2007-09-24T02:05:44Z")
Do people that tested CTTM2 have tested IO+IH? Those same mixes with IO+IH instead CTTM2? ---
**Author:** ![kinggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c0e974/32.png) [@kinggs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kinggs)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/27 "2007-09-24T02:16:56Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Does anyone have a theory on why Instant Openness works for some people and CTTM works for others? instant openness didnt work for me. Does that mean CTTM will? lol ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/28 "2007-09-24T02:34:51Z")
> [@](#): > > Does anyone have a theory on why Instant Openness works for some people and CTTM works for others? I’d guess some fateful combination of persona and body chemistry favors one over the other. Of course Instant Honesty and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) both contain “secret” steering pheromones not found in CTTM or pure chemset nols, so I’m sure there’s something at play there. Oddly, I’ve found just about any combination of alpha and/or beta androstenol works well for me. CTTM, IH, Scent of Eros and pure chemset nols were all effective as long as I dosed correctly. Alas it’s the same story for all products. Not all products work for everybody. I have about a 1 in 4 success rate for designer premixed commercial products, e.g., Chikara, IMPI, Liquid Trust, Shine and most P-series don’t do much for me but Ammo, PheroProof, AE, IH and SOE kick arse. It’s an expensive game to find what compliments your body chemistry and persona. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/29 "2007-09-24T03:01:41Z")
> [@kinggs](#): > > instant openness didnt work for me. Does that mean CTTM will? lol CTTM effects are much more noticeable because it has beta-androstenol in addition to alpha-ol. Though each one’s chemstry is different and can in a rare way benefit from Come Talk To Me Mix 2 instead of the more evolucionated products, I have tested both combinations and I still recommend [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)+Instant Honesty over Come Talk To Me Mix 2, because of the steering pheros, the delivering scent, the more lasting and the less conversion that Instant Openness and Instant Honesty have over Come Talk To Me Mix 2. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/30 "2007-09-25T00:01:39Z")
> [@capone](#): > > CTTM effects are much more noticeable because it has beta-androstenol in addition to alpha-ol. IO is 70/30 alpha/beta. . . ---
**Author:** ![kinggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c0e974/32.png) [@kinggs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kinggs)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/31 "2007-09-25T00:13:36Z")
> [@capone](#): > > CTTM effects are much more noticeable because it has beta-androstenol in addition to alpha-ol. > > Though each one’s chemstry is different and can in a rare way benefit from Come Talk To Me Mix 2 instead of the more evolucionated products, I have tested both combinations and I still recommend Instant Openness+Instant Honesty over Come Talk To Me Mix 2, because of the steering pheros, the delivering scent, the more lasting and the less conversion that Instant Openness and Instant Honesty have over Come Talk To Me Mix 2. im not willing to spend more money on openness. What do you think has more noticeable effects. CTTM2 or instant honesty? I’d be using them with a314, shine, ammo ---
**Author:** ![ShadowX](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/shadowx/32/2327_2.png) [@ShadowX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShadowX)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/32 "2007-09-25T02:44:09Z")
Most of you prefer I-O&I-H over CTTM2, It is kind of logical to me because I-O is known for its alpha nol while I-H for its beta. Yes CTTM2 has both, alpha and beta, but one product can rarley be more powerful than two products combined. I’m actually trying to find out which one is better ,CTTM2 or I-O (by it self). They are both $40 so there’s no winner for the price. Tater says that CTTM2 doesn’t last long as it lasts around 3 hours but I thought most of the pheros here last 4-5 hours(well mostly I-O and I-H) so an hour of difference is not a big deal…or am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/33 "2007-09-25T03:22:13Z")
> [@changazn](#): > > Instant Openness is 70/30 alpha/beta. . . In fact, AFAIK the ratio is 80/20 😉. Sorry if my post was confusing, english is not my native language. I meant (or I wanted to 🙂) alphanol was its main component and betanol in my opinion is much more suprising. At least I find more strange a dark-stories-telling-night than a talk-and-talk night, so betanol effects are more impressive than alpha. It has been reviewed that slightly varying the alpha/beta ratios varies in a great way the effects, could this be the reason why some people seem to find Come Talk To Me Mix 2 more useful than [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)+Instant Honesty? ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/34 "2007-09-25T04:48:58Z")
CTTM2 gives me effects similar to what i imagine [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) would do. IO 4x (2) + IH 4x (2) feels like a more talkative IH 4x (4). IO seems to have diminished results for me. It still does something, but not enough to be useful (for me, and in my own opinion). It may be that i already put out a lot of alpha-androstenol just being me because people already love talking to me if i open them. The difference for me is that CTTM gets them to open more often and i get the bs factor. ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/35 "2007-09-25T14:47:47Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Come Talk To Me Mix 2 gives me effects similar to what i imagine Instant Openness would do. Instant Openness 4x (2) + Instant Honesty 4x (2) feels like a more talkative IH 4x (4). IO seems to have diminished results for me. It still does something, but not enough to be useful (for me, and in my own opinion). I totally agree with the IO + IH effects but what I do not get results with CTMM2 if I do not rich it with a little more betanol. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/36 "2007-10-10T06:30:56Z")
I’ve used Instant Honesty and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), but I like CTTM2 a lot better than both. CTTM seems like a combination of both, but better. It works like a charm for me. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 6:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551/37 "2007-10-10T06:34:27Z")
> [@smoothplayer](#): > > I’ve used Instant Honesty and Instant Openness, but I like Come Talk To Me Mix 2 a lot better than both. CTTM seems like a combination of both, but better. It works like a charm for me. Weird that its an older product and supposedly less refined. Tater would take CTTM2 over [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) any day. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-reports-people-act-friendlier-but-how-long-does-it-last/5551.md?page=1)