# CTTM 2 vs. Instant Openness/Honesty **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 4, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-vs-instant-openness-honesty/27723 "2009-04-04T07:03:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-vs-instant-openness-honesty/27723/1 "2009-04-04T07:03:51Z")
Since it’s way cheaper to buy a bottle of CTTM 2 over bottles of both IO and IH, I’m wondering if there are any specific advantages to having both of them. I can’t seem to find any good info on what CTTM 2 is exactly. Can somebody please clarify? Is CTTM 2 a competent general-use [social pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/)? ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-vs-instant-openness-honesty/27723/2 "2009-04-04T07:18:16Z")
I just gave what is in it from what we know yesterday for someone else. It is about 50/50 Honesty/Openness with some very little helpers in it. I got it first before I got Honesty and Openness and it works great. If you get any of those three give it a try in your hair that works good for me with the socals. No None in the hair. ---
**Author:** ![desirez28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@desirez28](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/desirez28)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-vs-instant-openness-honesty/27723/3 "2009-04-04T07:20:08Z")
Try one them first, buy another one later or u just both to test it out. This is science, just test it out man! ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-vs-instant-openness-honesty/27723/4 "2009-04-04T07:25:27Z")
> [@desirez28](#): > > Try one them first, buy another one later or u just both to test it out. This is science, just test it out man! The only thing holding me back is money. If CTTM 2 is basically the same thing, then I don’t want to spend the money to also buy the IH and IO, even the testers there are racking up over $20 with shipping. I’d rather, for now, be frugal. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 7:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-vs-instant-openness-honesty/27723/5 "2009-04-04T07:33:18Z")
If money is the thing go for Cttm works just fine for a social. Best of both worlds lol. ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-vs-instant-openness-honesty/27723/6 "2009-04-04T07:36:11Z")
> [@tfrankz](#): > > If money is the thing go for Cttm works just fine for a social. Best of both worlds lol. Alright, that’s what I needed to hear. Thanks a bunch. ---
**Author:** ![mediumpimpin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@mediumpimpin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mediumpimpin)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-vs-instant-openness-honesty/27723/7 "2009-04-04T18:02:06Z")
well IO 70/30 alpha/beta with some steering molecules. IH is 30/70 alpha/beta with some steering and cttm2 is 50/50 with some steering molecules. each is a different combo of alpha/beta and prolly slightly different steering molecules. some say IO works wonders and IH less so. others say IH is cant miss, and IO does nothing for em. cttm2 always seems to get good reviews, so each has its own little niche of the nol market all that being said, id go with cttm2 first for money purposes