# Cttm and mx597 oil questions??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 26, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798 "2016-12-26T21:52:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/1 "2016-12-26T21:52:04Z")
Hey all I have been away for a bit and see some new products. I saw mx597 was similar to mx297 so I tried the spray I had. Wow am I hooked again. This has been the most depressing year and holidays of my life but the few get togethers I did go to, people seemed to gravitate towards me. I was seriously being anti-social and wore it on my face but everyone acted as though I was the life of the party. I have never been treated like that before, and that was with just two sprays. I am very confident in myself and have a good self image but struggle in certain situations. I thought a314 might command respect but I think it made me more scary. Lol. This felt like people let their guard down. And one girl at the local pharmacy followed me around like a puppy and even playfully brought her coworker to the register. It’s like people notice me and act like I’m there. Completely different way of being treated. So my question is… What’s up with the oils? Do I apply just like I would a314? What’s the dosing? I plan on using CTTM and MX597. Any insight would be great! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/2 "2016-12-26T21:53:52Z")
Its all up to you - These oils are very new and we are all still in the initial testing phase. ---
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/3 "2016-12-26T21:58:22Z")
Hey mobo. Do you have any experience with mx297? I was testing out a sample a while back and I got that celebrity life of the party vibe. I want to replicate that and saw the new oils. Well here we go. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/4 "2016-12-26T22:20:47Z")
Yes - Its about my favourite social and base for a social/sexual combination eg with TUTH. So long as you can work it in a fun/social manner its brilliant. Only things that go against it are if you put it on and be a wallflower or if you mix it wint anything containing a significant amount of Rone - [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is usable but anything else confused it to no good end. The oil is in my cart for my next order, which will probably go-through tonight. ---
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/5 "2016-12-26T22:25:55Z")
I was actually being a wallflower and yet somehow people still treated me like I was the fun of the party. I couldn’t beleive it. These hits were confirmed two other times but now I’m out. A314 I think is too overpowering for my demeanor and this allows people to let their guard down around me. I see a few more doors opening up in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/6 "2016-12-26T23:12:53Z")
> [@s\_t\_f](#): > > I was actually being a wallflower and yet somehow people still treated me like I was the fun of the party. I couldn’t beleive it. Yes - [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) will still get you some good initial hits but the interest will be quickly lost if you don’t capitalise on it with behaviour/traits that back-up the signal. Very broadly, I’ve always found that people who don’t do well with MX297 usually go better on A314 or other status mixes and vice versa. This goes for targets just as much as wearers. Give it your all in the right environments - where people can really let their hair down and enjoy themselves and MX297 will deliver in buckets for you. How I tend to use MX297 is to start with it on its own and wait till I’m getting good responses/interaction/established kino, **then** I added-in the TUTH or plain Androstenone. The sexual kick is usually fast and very palpable - often in a slightly pained, “Lets go somewhere private, like NOW!” sort of way. 😃 Or put it another way - I’m off to Germany in a couple of days for New Year and one of the prized remaining togos of 297 from my stockpile has already earned its place in the small selection of pheros that’s going with me - along with TUTH. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/7 "2016-12-26T23:44:10Z")
I have never tried tuth. I almost feel like mx297 did for me what everyone said a314 would do. I interacted in almost a friendly way even in my most down moments but feel I was treated way better than I preceived myself should be treated. I felt included which rarely happens in group environments. I cannot wait to try this in more situations. Also, went to the gym with some on. ITs a private studio gym Owned by a personal trainer. Everyone in The class we were working out with was rallying around me and telling me their stories and high fives. I worked just as hard as I did in the past but its like everyone wanted to get around me as if my presence would rub off on them and make them better. I have gotten hits off mones before but nothing like this. Cannot wait to get more ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/9 "2016-12-27T02:19:02Z")
TUTH is what works to sexualise it for me - but that could partly be due to my age. A younger, fitter guy with a better natural none production could well not need any extra None. Yes, I’ve always done well in the gym with it too. General wisdom is that gyms are status/sexual-heavy environment but I’ve found an engaging social is something different that people inevitably warm to. ---
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/10 "2016-12-27T02:41:20Z")
Well I just ordered cttm oil, mx597,mx297, akuto fragrance. I’ll let you guys know how things go. I want to keep “playing” with mx297 right now. But will eventually get into the oils. ---
**Author:** ![Jairson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jairson/32/576_2.png) [@Jairson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jairson)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/11 "2016-12-28T01:52:58Z")
Gah, you guys have made me want to try out the mx297 now myself \>,\< Too bad I just made an order, I’ll just have to wait until next time ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 11:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/12 "2016-12-28T11:20:23Z")
I’ve just ordered some of the oil. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/13 "2016-12-28T17:11:05Z")
What oils did you order? Keep me posted. I’m hoping to have my order before new years. But I think Santa takes the week off after christmas.lol I can’t wait to try them out ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/14 "2016-12-28T20:48:05Z")
As well as the 597 - some more A314, plus Shine and Honesty oils to try out. IS/IH is a favourite combination of mine in spray form to tune status/sexual mixes, so I want to see how the oils behave. They won’t be here before I leave for Germany though, so I’ll start with them in the New Year. All the 297 I have left is a half of a togo, so that’s going with me, along with TUTH and a few other products. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/15 "2017-01-02T11:01:33Z")
Interesting reaction on 297 the other night. 2 sprays to neck and before I’d added a sexual. A young girl, early teens started to take sneaky photos of me. The only other times that happened was with 297/[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) ant that was older teenage girls Maybe the “rockstar” vibe in action, although why I truly don’t know. I doubt I’m the most photogenic specimen! ---
**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/16 "2017-01-04T22:49:20Z")
I kept getting hits on top of hits today with everyone only using mx297. I love mx297. I get definately get that rock star feel. I will start to try the oil soon. Today at my personal trainers gym one girl was acting more flirty and bubbly in the gym. And if my memory serves me right, the last time we worked out I asked her a question and she responded, " I don’t talk while I workout". I knew she was lying, and really meant “don’t talk to me asshole, I’m not interested!” The first few times we worked out at the same time was this exact same way, very short and cold. But now I come rolling up with some mx297 and she is lifting her shirt showing me her stomach and just being real care free and actually talking to me like we were cool. I brushed it off at first due to the whole new year new me thing most people go through. but then… The next girl came shortly after the first one left and kept coming over to my side of the gym to drink her water. The gym is divided by a wall and has multiple sides, depending on what your training depends where you workout. we were on opposite sides but she kept coming over and drinking water by me. She also was way more chatty than usual. I kinda brushed this off until…I noticed my trainer following me around talking. This dude hardly talks to me when I’m at the gym because if you have energy to talk, you have energy to push. But he was paying way more attention than usual. He actually started to yell at me, in a good way to motivate me, but then started to talk again. That was an unusual experience that made me reflect on the past two encounters. But still wondering. Now on to my Dr.s appointment all showered and re-moned up with 3 sprays of mx297 on. When I finally saw my dr. she complimented me on my 25lb weightloss since we last saw each other. as usual she had me take my shirt off to check my breathing. She started to rub my back and complimented how smooth my skin was then continued with asking me to breathe. After that she had me sit back and started massaging my abs!?!?. Which you can feel but not see. She rubbed on each one and I was very confused as to what was happening. Then she uttered the statement that’s not the stomach I’m used to seeing. She then talked to me for about 10 minutes about life stuff all while not letting me put my shirt on. I actually interrupted her to go put my shirt on as I was getting cold. Then I sat down to finish talking and she opened her door and said we are all done. lol. the nurse was extra nice, too. I have been treated really well today everywhere I have gone. Kind of like they feel I’m important. make sense? I may go back and hit one of the other classes up at the gym just to see what happens. well I’ll get a good workout in so I know that will happen, but I mean with my new mx297 vibes. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-and-mx597-oil-questions/66798/17 "2017-01-09T17:27:42Z")
I’ve only taken it out three times so far but MX597 oil seems very promising - Smoother and more subtle yes but this could be a positive advantage as it seems to be more widely usable compared to the more present nature of the spray, which needed an enviroment where people were relaxed and more likely to be social to begin with. Dose has been 2-3 drops so far and the longevity in oil is excellent. A good eight hours activity and pushing sixteen hours before breakdown smell begins to become obvious - and then its just a little bit toasty. 🙂