# CTTM2 vs. IO **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 4, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm2-vs-io/35954 "2010-02-04T21:49:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm2-vs-io/35954/2 "2010-02-04T21:56:08Z")
> [@GAsmooth](#): > > I have read many thread about CTTM2 and IO and it seems that they are both ice breakers. From what I read they both seem to clear the space someone has and makes them more approachable. > > Is it necessary to use both of them? > > What are the differences between the two? > [@Can mixing Instant Openness and Instant Honesty 1:1 replace CTTM2?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/fake-cttm2/30093): > > i’ve been wanting to try CTTM2 for a while now, but lately i’ve been reading that it is a 50/50 mix of alpha and beta -nol. i have both instant openness and instant honesty so if i use those two in a 1:1 ratio would i end up with the same stuff as CTTM2 or is CTTM2 so different that i have to buy it? Search rocks! Use it, don’t abuse it. 😉 --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm2-vs-io/35954)._