# Curiosity got the hold of me, I've gotta try this **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 11, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883 "2010-12-11T00:48:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Linquist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df788c/32.png) [@Linquist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Linquist)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/1 "2010-12-11T00:48:23Z")
Well hello there everyone. I have been lurking on these forums for several days and decided to register, post, introduce myself, and get started. I am an 18 year old male in college in the great state of Michigan. The story as to why I am here is a bit longer than that, though. Once upon a time, I was a small, skinny, unathletic, pale, uninteresting, nerdy little boy. I didn’t get along well with other boys my age and whenever I tried to get to know a girl better, I was friend zoned instantly (see above for reasons). I was a very nice person and meant well in every way and did a very good job of being their friends, I just wasn’t what they were attracted to. I wasn’t a muscular jock of any sort, I did not have any interesting hobbies (I competed in Tae Kwon Do sparring and was very good at it, I also competed in the online team-based shooter Counter-Strike and won money in several tournaments with a team that I met online, but these obviously aren’t things you can brag about in Junior High or High School), and just was all-around unattractive and unpopular. After several years of living like this, I gave up and fell into a deep depression. I stopped trying to talk to people, make friends, meet new people, or talk to strangers. I shut myself in, did my homework every night, did my Tae Kwon Do, and played Counter-Strike for the rest of the night until I decided to sleep. I avoided social contact and the presence of others, including my family. I dedicated myself to myself, and became very lonely and fell deeper into depression. My parents’ encouraged me to see a doctor or use some sort of depression medication, as my family has a history of genetic depression. I resolutely refused. When my cousin committed suicide while using a anti-depressant as prescribed, I knew I had to change something in my life. I was fed up with living the way I was and dedicated an entire year to reinventing myself and changing the circumstances of my life in my favor and was very successful. I began practicing and competing in many different styles of martial arts instead of just Tae Kwon Do, including Brazilian Jiujitsu, Wrestling, Boxing, and Muay Thai. I gained 40 pounds of muscle and fell below 8% body fat with a new weightlifting and strength and conditioning program that I created for myself. I completely changed my look from head to toe and almost immediately started turning heads when people realized who I was because nobody recognized me. Very good looking girls would even openly tell me that I “turned hot all of a sudden without warning.” (exact quote) Since then, I have been obsessed with a continued desire to constantly improve myself. I am always looking to improve my looks, my athletic performance, and skill as a martial artist. However, one thing has eluded my ever since I fell into my depression, and that is what led me here. Before my depression, I was a normal person. Ever since then, even after totally overhauling my life and regaining most of my self-confidence, I remain deathly shy and closed in emotionally and mentally due to some insecurities. After being rejected and friend-zoned by so many girls, I am very hesitant to introduce myself or talk to any girl that has not initiated conversation with me. Even then, I have difficulties. Basically all of those girls that told me I was hot, I immediately felt extremely awkward and could not talk to them anymore. I have lost many opportunities due to my social ineptness. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being most socially awkward around people that I do not know, I am easily a 10. I now have a very close group of friends, girls and guys from high school, that I know on a very deep personal level and I am very comfortable with. It is also very easy for me to communicate with other men and establish connections and friendships with them. However, I am still prone to the same social awkwardness and insecurities that have always plagued me. Even when I see the indicators of interest and can tell that they want me to come over and introduce myself, I cannot do it. It is very difficult for me to talk to girls. Period. # Now, on to the mones. I would like to see if mones could help me overcome those insecurities and open up and introduce myself to them, or attract females enough that they would introduce themselves to me. Due to the fact that I am an 18 year old male, work out twice a day, and then in addition to that practice a variety of combat sports, I would assume that my natural -none production would be through the roof. This, combined with the fact that girls have not approached me (and displayed behavior similar to the “ghosting” effect) since I’ve started to really ramp up my strength and conditioning to another level and started training hardcore, suggests to me that I might be naturally ODing on -none. So I believe that [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), IJ, TUTH, etc are totally out of the question for me. Is it possible to OD on naturally produced -none? Any thoughts about this particular situation of mine? I have read a bit on the nomes on this forum and it seems to me like IO, IShine, IH, and IG might have the effects that I want. Any thoughts about that? I have not bought anything, but am looking forward to it after reading some of the posts about different hits people have gotten and what not. Overall, just from lurking on the forums for the past few days, I can already tell that this community is very open, receptive, and helpful, and I can’t wait to see what happens in my potential future endeavors with nomes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/2 "2010-12-11T01:02:53Z")
Hi Linquist! Come on in the waters fine!!! 🙂 Wow, am very glad to see such a detailed intro on the very first post! Kudos to you!!! \< 8 % body fat!?!? Man, that’s crazy!!! You really weren’t kidding when you said you focused on yourself! Good for you! You have a very good foundation in the case of your physical appearance. Many guys trip up on this, but you have this covered. Now, for the mones, I’d suggest ALL of the socials, IS for happy in a bottle, the IO to just open up convos, and the IH to delve into some deeper meaning in those convos. However, this will only work if you work on your social skills using those close friends you have now. Especially the girls that you know. With these mones as your support, you can let yourself be as expressive as you can be with your friends and see what reactions they get. Then, continue to build on it with friends of theirs that you meet with in a social setting… out to the movies, going to a club, etc. With your social network intact around you, you’ll be getting into convos with everyone around you by showing Interest in THEIR opinions and thoughts… Well, I do wish you well in your continued efforts to improve yourself!!! _\<8 % body fat…man, that’s good!_ ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/3 "2010-12-11T03:51:52Z")
Hey, welcome to PT! Alpha1 gave you an amazing welcome. There are many here who have been or are in similar situation as you. Keep your head up and continue beliving yourself. I recommend ammo + IS + io to start off. Ammo would increase sexiness, io would help others open up, ansd IS would make others feel great around you. Also, if you have enough money, try ig and ih. Ih to increase connection and intimacy while ig to make you seem reliable cool and mature! Good luck and enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![Linquist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df788c/32.png) [@Linquist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Linquist)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/4 "2010-12-11T16:35:18Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > However, this will only work if you work on your social skills using those close friends you have now. Especially the girls that you know. With these mones as your support, you can let yourself be as expressive as you can be with your friends and see what reactions they get. Then, continue to build on it with friends of theirs that you meet with in a social setting… out to the movies, going to a club, etc. With your social network intact around you, you’ll be getting into convos with everyone around you by showing Interest in THEIR opinions and thoughts… Thanks for the tip. It sounds like when I go home for winter break from school and see all of my old friends would be the perfect time for me to experiment and find my sweet spot with mones. I’ll be sure to get on that ASAP! > [@CoolKat](#): > > I recommend ammo + IS + io to start off. Ammo would increase sexiness, io would help others open up, ansd IS would make others feel great around you. I considered ammo a lot, I’m just very hesitant about how much -none I already naturally produce. I have read to never be a afraid of ODing but if I buy a -none product and don’t even need a spray, it would be a waste of money. Thank you very much to both of you for the welcomes though! ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/5 "2010-12-11T18:35:43Z")
This is why I recommend ammo with instant shine. It would help prevent OD. Also, try to get other socials like io and ih to use with ammo. Moreover, look into IG. It will give you respect and status with young women! ---
**Author:** ![Linquist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df788c/32.png) [@Linquist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Linquist)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/6 "2010-12-11T19:05:47Z")
Oh ok. I must have misunderstood you. Thanks for clarifying. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/7 "2010-12-13T07:11:34Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > This is why I recommend ammo with instant shine. It would help prevent OD. Also, try to get other socials like io and ih to use with ammo. Moreover, look into IG. It will give you respect and status with young women! Also, try a 1/2 spray of AMMO with IS and see if that will help as well. You really don’t need quantity for mones to work… I’d suggest your sweet spot testing with AMMO so you don’t waste your precious stash on extra sprays that will get to you an OD… ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/8 "2010-12-13T23:40:09Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Linguist! Congratulations to you and what you have achieved and seek to achieve. Who you are and for trying to progress even further. I believe that confidence comes from you and no one or nothing can make you confident. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) enhance and bring out what is already there so when you start using these products and start seeing results please remember it is all you being pushed out by the mones. I suggest you do some reading in the men section starting with posts from way back when and ask as many questions as possible, the men will take you under their wing. 😉 You got what it take but because of your lack of confidence you don’t give off that sexual vibe you need to and so the first product I suggest is Ammo to make you feel more confident. Instant shine to make you feel refreshed and draws others to you. Instant openness is great to break the ice and helps with conversation flow. Now because of it’s contents of none IJ and Tuth are not recommended for persons your age but I suggest you get a 5ml of IJ and use very sparingly with your IO to give off that strong sexual vibe and edge. You work out and you are young so you should be producing a great amount of pheromones naturally you just need to know what to do with all this skill you got under the hood. Your gc was issued! ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/9 "2010-12-14T06:28:28Z")
Hey there Linquist! I’d also ask you to look through the posts and select one that best answered your questions. Then, we can hone our answers to be all the more better for the next poster! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![rocksarentpeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@rocksarentpeople](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rocksarentpeople)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 7:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/10 "2010-12-14T07:40:52Z")
on a side note… Go Blue!! ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/11 "2010-12-14T08:27:10Z")
As in Dodger Blue?!? or Like the cops? Maybe, a cheer for a whale? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 8:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/12 "2010-12-14T08:47:21Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > As in Dodger Blue?!? or Like the cops? Maybe, a cheer for a whale? 😛 I think he mean the Wolverines… right? Rep me for being right 😉 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/13 "2010-12-14T08:56:21Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > I think he mean the Wolverines… right? > Rep me for being right 😉 Ohhhhhhhh… That Makes more sense!!! GOOOO Michigan!!! ---
**Author:** ![Linquist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df788c/32.png) [@Linquist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Linquist)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/14 "2010-12-14T12:34:48Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Hey there Linquist! I’d also ask you to look through the posts and select one that best answered your questions. Then, we can hone our answers to be all the more better for the next poster! > > Cheers! I know this is not the kind of answer you were looking for but… it is not that easy since my post was fairly large and all of you addressed a different issue I discussed. It is good if everybody does their thing for each poster and I’m very grateful for all of your replies. If everyone gave the same kind of answer this forum might get a bit boring 😛 ---
**Author:** ![rocksarentpeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@rocksarentpeople](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rocksarentpeople)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/15 "2010-12-14T21:15:51Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > I think he mean the Wolverines… right? > Rep me for being right 😉 I can’t give you more rep points I guess…but yep Blue = Wolverines 😃 ---
**Author:** ![rocksarentpeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@rocksarentpeople](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rocksarentpeople)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/curiosity-got-the-hold-of-me-ive-gotta-try-this/43883/16 "2010-12-14T21:18:33Z")
> [@Linquist](#): > > I know this is not the kind of answer you were looking for but… it is not that easy since my post was fairly large and all of you addressed a different issue I discussed. It is good if everybody does their thing for each poster and I’m very grateful for all of your replies. > > If everyone gave the same kind of answer this forum might get a bit boring 😛 I’ve found that to be the irony of a long-standing topic-based forum…eventually every question or new thread can be answered “do a search…” Which implies that everything that can be asked has already been answered 😮