# cycle dependent pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 28, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cycle-dependent-pheromones/4360 "2007-06-28T20:41:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cycle-dependent-pheromones/4360/1 "2007-06-28T20:41:31Z")
We know that -none and probably P79 (right?) are cycle dependent [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/).. from the start of a woman’s period to right before ovulation we should avoid them.. What about P83 and MX113? Are these cycle dependent too? What’s safe to use at that time, just the -nol’s and IFM? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cycle-dependent-pheromones/4360/2 "2007-06-29T01:56:20Z")
Practically, just wear what you want and keep a bottle of IFM handy in case you need to rescue yourself. ---
**Author:** ![sweetsense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@sweetsense](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sweetsense)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cycle-dependent-pheromones/4360/3 "2007-06-29T04:38:19Z")
Phoenix, what would you use if you knew woman has gone through the change? Would none still work? ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cycle-dependent-pheromones/4360/4 "2007-06-29T06:33:55Z")
> [@sweetsense](#): > > Phoenix, what would you use if you knew woman has gone through the change? Would none still work? I’m no expert on the subject of women’s cycles.. but what I’ve read (here and on l-s) indicates that -none may irritate women from the start of the period to before ovulation.. they may do things like test you more… I’d love to hear practical experiences with -none eg ammunition, to see if this is 100% correct, or whether other pheromones work well during that time… (seeing as I have a date during that time where I wanted to use p83 and mx113 besides ammo). ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 7:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cycle-dependent-pheromones/4360/5 "2007-06-29T07:16:45Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Practically, just wear what you want and keep a bottle of Instant Female Magic handy in case you need to rescue yourself. In other words wear -none etc and use IFM to soften the reactions? Could do that. Does it become “safer” to use -none around her as more days pass? Or is it a “constant”? I’d like to know that…😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 7:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cycle-dependent-pheromones/4360/6 "2007-06-29T07:36:25Z")
> [@](#): > > We know that -none and probably [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (right?) are cycle dependent pheromones.. from the start of a woman’s period to right before ovulation we should avoid them.. I don’t know about “we” but I personally find androstenone products such NPA, TE and chemset androstenone to be extremely effective around women every day of the week. And, like Mr Gone writes, a shot of A-1 when she’s on the rag pretty much cures all. I wouldn’t apply A-1 unless I know she’s suffering from extreme moodiness or PMS. I’ve also enjoyed consistent success with premade commercial mixes with high concentrations of androstenone, PheroProof principle among them. I think individual success with androstenone is intimately linked to race, age, body chemistry, persona so there are far too many variables to generalize about what we know and should do. Also, I wear androstenone for both professional and social reasons. Used intelligently androstenone helps impart a bit of badass and edginess that, in turn, foster respect. And respect among your peers is a good thing professionally and politically. Of course you have to back it up with substance or the mones won’t do jack in the long run but that’s a whole other story… ---
**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cycle-dependent-pheromones/4360/7 "2007-06-29T07:49:51Z")
Just to throw my own limited experience into the mix, in case it is useful.🙂 I have a 2.5mcg bottle of tuth and I love the smell of that stuff - irrespective of where I am in my cycle. I don’t take the pill - are the negative cycle-related effects more likely to occur with younger women? If not, then obviously it doesn’t have the same impact on all of us. FWIW I’m British and blood group B+. May ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2007, 10:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cycle-dependent-pheromones/4360/8 "2007-06-29T10:01:36Z")
> [@May](#): > > Just to throw my own limited experience into the mix, in case it is useful.🙂 I have a 2.5mcg bottle of Turn Up The Heat and I love the smell of that stuff - irrespective of where I am in my cycle. I don’t take the pill - are the negative cycle-related effects more likely to occur with younger women? If not, then obviously it doesn’t have the same impact on all of us. > > FWIW I’m British and blood group B+. > > May Thanks for the info.. so perhaps no negative effects would happen, we’ll see.