# Da Bella da Ball Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [December 28, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826 "2007-12-28T20:02:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 42

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**Author:** ![QuietGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/bc8723/32.png) [@QuietGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/QuietGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/828 "2008-12-18T05:39:12Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> Quiet Guy, it’s up to you. You asked me a question the other day…'member? Hmm?
> 
> It’s in reference to that…_and I’ll TAF you! 😃_
> 
> 'Cmon.._think_…🙄

Heh. I am not that dense! I know that you was referring to me and Robbie’s interests in art.

Thats why I made a mention about TAF, figuring you know what I meant.

See I can be witty too… Sometimes. :o

> [@Bella](#):
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> LOL. Perry Mason.

I said Perry Mason first! then I edited it (I know it probably appears in the subscribe thread email.) out. I thought I was being a bit curt. 😛

By the way I like the original Jeopardy theme better, the new rendition sounds a tad like elevator music.

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/829 "2008-12-18T07:00:17Z")

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> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> _ **I know that you was referring to me and Robbie’s interests in art.** _

_Ooooh,_ it’s _art?_ Heh. Not what _I_ was thinking… nevermind. 😃

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> _ **Heh. I’m not that dense!** _

\*Noooo…\*that would be me. 🙄

> [@](#):
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> _ **See I can be witty too… Sometimes** _

You are witty QG, very! 😉 See I can be _sloooow_ too…Sometimes. 😃

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> _ **Thats why I made a mention about TAF, figuring you know what I meant.** _

Maybe _now_ would be a good time to talk about _that_…I mean with Robbie here and all…just a thought. 😃

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> _ **I said Perry Mason first! then I edited it out.** _

Uh huh…_doesn’t count_ 😛 unless you post it!

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> _ **I thought I was being a bit curt.** _ 😛

You can be as Curt as you’d like…if you look anything like Kurt Russell. 😃

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/830 "2008-12-18T08:06:10Z")

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Quiet Guy, you ever see any Marx Brothers movies? Well, Bella is the little-known Marx _sister._ Sometimes a little Groucho comes out, sometimes a little Chico (with that Italian accent) pops out. Ya never know what to expect here in Bella’s Ballroom (located in the Twighlight Zone section of the Women’s journals).

WE are the straight men. We don’t have to worry about being funny, we just have to worry about _hanging on_ for the ride with this fiesty little spitfire.

She will play with our minds the way cats play with mice. 🙂

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**Author:** ![QuietGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/bc8723/32.png) [@QuietGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/QuietGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/831 "2008-12-18T08:27:22Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> You can be as Curt as you’d like…if you look anything like Kurt Russell. 😃

Sorry I don’t look like him I look more like \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*! 😛 🆒

Speaking of Kurt Russell, have you ever seen him in that movie called Soldier? It’s really good! 🙂

> [@Robbie](#):
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> Quiet Guy, you ever see any Marx Brothers movies? Well, Bella is the little-known Marx _sister._ Sometimes a little Groucho comes out, sometimes a little Chico (with that Italian accent) pops out. Ya never know what to expect here in Bella’s Ballroom (located in the Twighlight Zone section of the Women’s journals).
> 
> WE are the straight men. We don’t have to worry about being funny, we just have to worry about _hanging on_ for the ride with this fiesty little spitfire.

Yeah I’ve seen some Markz Brothers movies, pretty funny stuff! And you are right, Bella is quite the hand full!

> [@Robbie](#):
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> She will play with our minds the way cats play with mice. 🙂

Ever watched Tom and Jerry.. '_Nuff Said_! 😛

> [@Bella](#):
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> Maybe _now_ would be a good time to talk about _that_…I mean with Robbie here and all…just a thought.

I get the hint, and you’re pushy! 😛

Hey Robbie, could you be so kind to answer this for me. 🙂

Have you ever created art while using TAF?

And if so was you able to discern any comparable difference between, your normal state and self effected state?

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/832 "2008-12-18T11:14:46Z")

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> [@Robbie](#):
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> _ **Quiet Guy, you ever see any Marx Brothers movies?** _

> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> _ **Yeah I’ve seen some Markz Brothers movies, pretty funny stuff!** _

> [@Robbie](#):
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> _**Well, Bella is the little-known Marx sister. Sometimes a little Groucho comes out, sometimes a little Chico (with that Italian accent) pops out.**_

Watch it, Buster…there’s something else that comes with that accent.

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> _**Ya never know what to expect here in Bella’s Ballroom (located in the Twighlight Zone section of the Women’s journals).**_

Only the brave dare tread here. 😉

Hey, we could spray on some Spaceland and a little TAF and get _really_ Lost In…DANGER!!! DANGER!!!

> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> _ **And you are right, Bella is quite the hand full!** _

Hey! I resemble that remark!

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> _ **I get the hint, and you’re pushy!** _ 😛

I prefer to think of it as…_encouragement_. 🙂

> [@Robbie](#):
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> _ **WE are the straight men.** _

Yeah, you two _are_ straight…lol…that’s _fo’ shizzle!_

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> _ **She will play with our minds the way cats play with mice.** _ 🙂

Oooh, pipe down or no cheese for you!

> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> _ **Ever watched Tom and Jerry..** _ 😛

Ever watch -..… [YouTube - Who’s On First?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmvkO5x6Ng&feature=related)

> [@Robbie](#):
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> _ **we just have to worry about hanging on for the ride with this fiesty little spitfire.** _

High test only, please…now put the peddle to the metal and try to keep up! 😃

> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> _ **Speaking of Kurt Russell, have you ever seen him in that movie called Soldier? It’s really good!** _

You know I did! Very intense, but oh so cool. My all time favorite Kurt Russell film is the one where he plays Elvis. Uh huh, _Elvis_. I know. It’s the best portrayal of Elvis I’ve ever seen. Really. Shelly Winters played his Mama. Do you know the name of that film, Robbie? It escapes me at the moment. Oh, I could _never_ forget him as Snake Plisken in, Escape From New York. _Oh, Mama_…so hot/yummy. Adrienne Barbeau is in it, too. Run towards the camera, Adrienne! Lots to be said for a shot of a dish like Adrienne Barbeau running towards the camera. Steady cam…lol…yeah, right.

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> _ **Hey Robbie, could you be so kind to answer this for me. 🙂** _
> 
> _ **Have you ever created art while using TAF?** _
> 
> _ **And if so was you able to discern any comparable difference between, your normal state and self effected state?** _

Batter up! _Aaaand_ I just love a man who steps up to the plate. 😉 _Who’s_ on second?

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**Author:** ![QuietGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/bc8723/32.png) [@QuietGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/QuietGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/833 "2008-12-18T15:33:35Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> Hey, we could spray on some Spaceland and a little TAF and get _really_ Lost In…DANGER!!! DANGER!!!

I would not want be around you, when you use TAF and spaceland together. Oh, the pain.. The pain! 😮

> [@Bella](#):
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> Hey! I resemble that remark!

What do mean?🙄

> [@Bella](#):
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> I prefer to think of it as…_encouragement_. 🙂

Not where I stand!

> [@Bella](#):
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> Yeah, you two _are_ straight…lol…that’s _fo’ shizzle!_

We are as straight, as you are sassy! 😉😛

> [@Bella](#):
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> Ever watch -.[YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=)

I always like Adrienne Barbeau, I bet she produce couplins somethin fierce. 😛

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/834 "2008-12-18T17:04:37Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> You know I did! Very intense, but oh so cool. My all time favorite Kurt Russell film is the one where he plays Elvis. Uh huh, _Elvis_. I know. It’s the best portrayal of Elvis I’ve ever seen. Really. Shelly Winters played his Mama. Do you know the name of that film, Robbie? It escapes me at the moment. Oh, I could _never_ forget him as Snake Plisken in, Escape From New York. _Oh, Mama_…so hot/yummy. Adrienne Barbeau is in it, too. Run towards the camera, Adrienne! Lots to be said for a shot of a dish like Adrienne Barbeau running towards the camera. Steady cam…lol…yeah, right.

Yeah, that’s a favorite of mine too. “Elvis The Movie.” It was directed by John (Escape From New York) Carpenter. Just last night I had a long conversation with a friend of mine about Kurt Russell because a) I had watched “Used Cars,” and b) I’ve yet to meet a woman who doesn’t drool over Kurt Russell (I’m sure they’re out there, though). I reminded her that KR had been in an eposode of Lost In Space (which Bella just referenced) as a teen. I remember him from Wagon Train.

> [@Quiet Guy](#):
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> Have you ever created art while using TAF?
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> And if so was you able to discern any comparable difference between, your normal state and self effected state?

No, I’m _so boring_. 🙂 Music drives my creativity, I can’t work without it…

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/835 "2008-12-18T18:00:23Z")

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Hi guys, don’t have a lot of time right now but I wanted to leave this for you Quiet Guy, 'cause you did ask me. 😉

I think TAF has awareness at many levels. It’s an amplifier. For example, music. I find, when wearing TAF, if it’s not just right it can be very annoying. It makes things pop, colors, sounds and even smell. So it stands to reason that it could be useful in most artistic applications. If you wanna try it I suggest starting with a low dose, 2.5-5mcg and bump it up from there. Dose is important. It’s properties morph differently at different levels. I use it as “seasoning” in a mix. It has the ability to emphasis other pheromones in a mix. The way I react isn’t the way everyone reacts when wearing it. I get all scattered at a too high dose. Diane gets straightened out. Go figure. Very subjectjective those pheromones. Since you read Diane’s thread, you can see how important dose is. Did you read Idle’s business thread that I also linked in that post? Good info there on TAF as well.

I can tell you this…I would _never_ attempt to apply my makeup while wearing TAF. That’s a form of art, no? I’d see every little detail and imperfection and NEVER be satified with it. So, for what that’s worth.

Abstract art, huh? I think it would be fun and worth experimenting with. Maybe we can get Robbie 🙂 to step outta the box and join you for a little experiment? 🙄 _Maaaybeee?_ It would be interesting if you tested together and reported back on your findings. You could also shoot your question out on the forum. Ya never know, there might be a few more artists here who could shed some light on it for you. Not trying to be pushy, Pookie…just trying to be helpful. 😃

Don’t know if that clears anything up for ya, Quite Guy. Guess you’ll just have to _bite the bullet_, spray some on and find out!

You don’t look anything like Steve McQueen, do ya? 😛

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**Author:** ![QuietGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/bc8723/32.png) [@QuietGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/QuietGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/836 "2008-12-19T02:03:46Z")

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Thanks for the info Bella, and You know what? You’re alright. 🙂

> [@Bella](#):
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> Not trying to be pushy, Pookie…just trying to be helpful. 😃

It’s cool, Boo. 😛

> [@Bella](#):
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> You don’t look anything like Steve McQueen, do ya?

No but, I do look good in a cowboy suit. 😃

> [@Bella](#):
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> Abstract art, huh? I think it would be fun and worth experimenting with. Maybe we can get Robbie 🙂 to step outta the box and join you for a little experiment? 🙄 _Maaaybeee?_

_Maaaybeee NOT!_ Robbie and I are STRAIGHT! Keep your  
fantasies to yourself! 😛

> [@Robbie](#):
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> Yeah, that’s a favorite of mine too. “Elvis The Movie.” It was directed by John (Escape From New York) Carpenter. Just last night I had a long conversation with a friend of mine about Kurt Russell because a) I had watched “Used Cars,” and b) I’ve yet to meet a woman who doesn’t drool over Kurt Russell (I’m sure they’re out there, though). I reminded her that KR had been in an eposode of Lost In Space (which Bella just referenced) as a teen. I remember him from Wagon Train.

Have you ever watched him in that movie called, The Computer wore tennis shoes?

Or that cult classic he was in, Big Trouble in little China. He was a beast in that movie.

No, I’m _so boring_. 🙂 Music drives my creativity, I can’t work without it…

You being boring is probably what a lot of people call cool.

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**Author:** ![QuietGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/bc8723/32.png) [@QuietGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/QuietGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/837 "2008-12-19T02:07:04Z")

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Thanks for the info Bella, and You know what? You’re alright. 🙂

> [@Bella](#):
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> Not trying to be pushy, Pookie…just trying to be helpful. 😃

It’s cool, Boo. 😛

> [@Bella](#):
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> You don’t look anything like Steve McQueen, do ya?

No but, I do look good in a cowboy suit. 😃

> [@Bella](#):
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> Abstract art, huh? I think it would be fun and worth experimenting with. Maybe we can get Robbie 🙂 to step outta the box and join you for a little experiment? 🙄 _Maaaybeee?_

_Maaaybeee NOT!_ Robbie and I are STRAIGHT! Keep your  
fantasies to yourself! 😛

> [@Robbie](#):
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> Yeah, that’s a favorite of mine too. “Elvis The Movie.” It was directed by John (Escape From New York) Carpenter. Just last night I had a long conversation with a friend of mine about Kurt Russell because a) I had watched “Used Cars,” and b) I’ve yet to meet a woman who doesn’t drool over Kurt Russell (I’m sure they’re out there, though). I reminded her that KR had been in an eposode of Lost In Space (which Bella just referenced) as a teen. I remember him from Wagon Train.

Have you ever watched him in that movie called, The Computer wore tennis shoes?

Or that cult classic he was in, Big Trouble in little China. He was a beast in that movie.

> [@Bella](#):
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> No, I’m _so boring_. 🙂 Music drives my creativity, I can’t work without it…

You being boring is probably what, a lot of people would call cool.

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/838 "2008-12-19T15:18:09Z")

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> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> Have you ever watched him in that movie called, The Computer wore tennis shoes?
> 
> Or that cult classic he was in, Big Trouble in little China. He was a beast in that movie.

Yeah, I have. He was also in another Disney movie called “The Barefoot Executive.” Seen that?

Big Trouble was another John Carpenter film. Kurt Russell + John Carpenter = I’m there. Those guys are hilarious together.

You remember Kurt Russell in Forrest Gump?

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**Author:** ![QuietGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/bc8723/32.png) [@QuietGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/QuietGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/839 "2008-12-19T21:50:49Z")

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> [@Robbie](#):
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> You remember Kurt Russell in Forrest Gump?

I was not aware he was in that movie! A quick IMDB search revealed he impersonated Elvis Priestly voice in that film, but was uncredited. 😕

> [@Robbie](#):
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> Yeah, I have. He was also in another Disney movie called “The Barefoot Executive.” Seen that?

I don’t recall watching that one. Is it good?

Since you are fan of John Carpenter works. I bet you are familiar with his interpretation, of that black and white movie classic “The Thing From Another World”.

I was ten years old, when I watched that movie. Needless to say I slept, with the light on that very night. ☹

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/840 "2008-12-19T22:11:32Z")

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> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> I was not aware he was in that movie! A quick IMDB search revealed he impersonated Elvis Priestly voice in that film, but was uncredited. 😕

Ya got me! It was a trick question. 🙂 He’s also in “3000 Miles To Graceland” in Elvis regalia.

> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> I don’t recall watching that one. Is it good?

About the same level of quality as “Computer Wore Tennis Shoes,” they were both Disney movies made when he was an older teen.

> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> I bet you are familiar with his interpretation, of that black and white movie classic “The Thing From Another World”.

Sure. I love his version _and_ Howard Hawks’ original, but for different reasons.

> [@QuietGuy](#):
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> I was ten years old, when I watched that movie. Needless to say I slept with light on that very night. ☹

Wasn’t that movie rated “R?” 😮

Bella, you like any of these movies? 😃

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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/841 "2009-01-03T14:24:23Z")

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Hello Bella. I don’t wear phenomones much now days I but I just checked in here to see what happened in what seems like a rather long time.

I remember “The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes”, but it has been a long time since I saw that one.

Happy New Year to you.

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**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/842 "2009-01-03T19:16:37Z")

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Oh my goodness Daedelus76! How have you been sweetie? You’ve been missed 🙂

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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/843 "2009-01-03T20:43:48Z")

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I have been busy doing other things, Ms. Selva. I hope I haven’t been missed too much, although thank you for saying that. I haven’t worn pheromones hardly at all, I just don’t feel I need them anymore, at least at the moment. Mostly what I have been doing is alot of reading and meditating, and thinking about what I will do with the rest of my life. I feel well, though.

I just stopped in to update my own journal, that’s all… and let people know I am still alive, in case they were wondering. … and I am definitely not a lone wolf anymore. I like being alone sometimes, and quiet, but I am not a wolf.

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**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/844 "2009-01-03T22:18:40Z")

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Daedelus76, I’m glad to see that you’re doing well with yourself 🙂 LOL! I always knew that you weren’t a lone wolf, handsome!

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/845 "2009-01-03T22:51:32Z")

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> [@Daedelus76](#):
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> _ **Hello Bella. I don’t wear phenomones much now days I but I just checked in here to see what happened in what seems like a rather long time.** _
> 
> _ **I just stopped in to update my own journal, that’s all… and let people know I am still alive, in case they were wondering. … and I am definitely not a lone wolf anymore. I like being alone sometimes, and quiet, but I am not a wolf.** _
> 
> _ **Happy New Year to you.** _

Hello Daedelus! It _has_ been a long time. I’ve been wondering about you. I’m glad to see you. 🙂

So, you’ve given up the way of the lone wolf, eh? Do tell, my dear.

Happy New Year to you, too. I hope this year brings all good things your way. 😉

Bella

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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/846 "2009-01-04T06:02:11Z")

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I don’t go out and socialize, so I guess I am still a lone wolf in that sense. I’m still introverted, in fact I probably socialize less. The wolf thing is something I don’t identify with much anymore, though. I don’t have problems interacting with people like I used to, I am not self-conscious, at the same time, I think I am lousy at playing the social games it takes sometimes to “get ahead”, which is something I am not interested in anymore. People can either like who I am, or not… ultimately it won’t bother me.

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/847 "2009-01-04T06:54:54Z")

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> [@Daedelus76](#):
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> _ **I don’t go out and socialize, so I guess I am still a lone wolf in that sense.** _ I’m still introverted. The wolf thing is something I don’t identify with much anymore. In fact, _**I don’t identify with much of anything (not even with being a man, which I guess one might see as wierd I suppose).**_ I don’t have problems interacting with people like I used to, I am not self-conscious, at the same time, _ **I think I am lousy at playing the social games it takes sometimes to “get ahead”, which is something I am not interested in anymore.** _ Life is too short, and there is a big equalizer for everyone. _ **People can either like who I am, or not… ultimately it won’t bother me.** _

Well, I know you’re not a social butterfly. But I’d like to ask you something, if you don’t mind. It’s personal so you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

Why does being social and interacting with people have to be just to get ahead? I wonder if you _want_ to connect with people on a social level. I mean what about getting to know someone, you find interesting, just for fun? Well, I’m gonna say something here and I hope you and I know each other well enough, at this point, for you to realize I’m not attacking you. 🙂 Seems to me that you’re really not giving yourself a chance. What’s more you’re selling yourself short. It’s kind of a defeatist attitude, D. You’re so smart and have so much knowledge about so many interesting things, I’m sure people would like you if you’d loosen up and relax about it a bit more. You do well here with us and have many friends. So why not with others? I mean don’t you want companionship? Jeez, I wish you wouldn’t be content to cut yourself off. I know all that nonsense can be discouraging but nothing worthwhile in life comes without effort. So what if you have to make an effort? There could be something great out there for you and you’re just too lazy to go get it. How can you expect people to like you for yourself if you never give them the chance to know you? Getting to know people takes time. Developing friendships takes time. Look at us. 😮 😃

Anyways, it’s none of my beeswax and if you’re truly happy with that then I’m glad. But I just wanted to ask…or say…😉

Bella

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