# Da Bella da Ball Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [December 28, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826 "2007-12-28T20:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1108 "2009-06-30T19:27:03Z")
> [@Phya](#): > > _ **BTW, In-N-Out is the best fast food burger joint in the states. If you don’t have one in your state, your state needs to step up. California has like 1023980124978 In-N-Outs. 😛** _ Gotta tell ya, there’s nothing good like that where I live. No yummy fast food. It’s so sad. I mean there’s a couple of decent pizza places… \* yawn \* 🙄 However, if ya ever get to Philadelphia…you might look up one of these… Roast Pork Italian with greens or broccoli rabe and sharp provolone. The greens are sautéed in olive oil with hot pepper and garlic. 🙂 Everybody heads for Pat’s or Geno’s for cheesesteaks. Ick. Please, skip them or you’ll forever wonder WTF it’s all about and head for John’s Roast pork instead…even for cheese steaks…no Cheeze Whiz here! Tony Luke’s is good too. [John’s Roast Pork :: gophila.com - The Official Visitor Site for Greater Philadelphia](http://www.gophila.com/C/Dining_and_Nightlife/223/Dining_Restaurants_and_Food_in_Philadelphia/221/Authentic_Philly_Cheesesteaks/361/U/Johns_Roast_Pork/1048.html) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/a/ad72ea7dc0672f9771ef4c961b517cee7dda6ef3.jpeg) Oh Jeez, I’d be drummed outta The Core and loose my Pestle Packin’ License if I left out _this_ one… the Italian sausage pepper and onion sandwich! Hot/sweet, or a little of each, your choice. [http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2117116/festa20-main\_Full.jpg](http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2117116/festa20-main_Full.jpg) and this one…meatballzzzzzz… [http://unbreaded.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/weekendrecipe-meatballsandwich.jpg](http://unbreaded.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/weekendrecipe-meatballsandwich.jpg) Well, I couldn’t leave the sausage sandwich alone with the pork now could I? OK, one more…grilled mozzarella with roasted peppers and fresh basil. Simple but, O My. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/c/ceda27d232ac6572d3f4aab7632640040dedbca1.jpeg) > [@zeph](#): > > _ **oh man, pastrami? Have you tried The Hat? They’ve got pretty bomb pastrami IMO. Try their pastrami chili cheese fries too. Large portions, delicious juicy pastrami, all you need is good company. That’s the only place I know of for good pastrami. I’ll have to check out that place that mark mentioned.** _ I confess I, too, love the pastrami. Hot pastrami with mustard on rye, please. Anybody for corned beef, how 'bout a Ruben? _SOMEBODY_ STOP ME…or I may hurt maself! God, I love a good sandwich. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1109 "2009-07-03T17:21:10Z")
((((((Bella)))))) Where art thou chica?! I miss you! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1110 "2009-07-10T20:07:14Z")
Hi, ((((((Sweetie Girl!))))))) 🙂 I’ve been away and just got back a couple of days ago. Took me a minute to get here…the jet lag thing. 🙄 Whew, it really whoops my ass. I’ve got a lot on my plate at home but I’ll be around off and on reading and trying to catch up. I’m sure that’ll take me a few days as well. I need to write a report, too, as soon as I have the time. I hope you’re well and enjoying the summer. You deserve it after all the hard work you’ve put in at school! Now all ya gotta do is manage to stay outta trouble! 😛 Thanks for stopping by, Selva, I’m glad to see you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![QuietGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/bc8723/32.png) [@QuietGuy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/QuietGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1111 "2009-07-10T21:39:23Z")
[http://img6.glowfoto.com/images/2009/07/10-1435417502T.gif](http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=10-143541L&y=2009&m=07&t=gif&rand=7502&srv=img6) ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1112 "2009-07-11T00:59:58Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Hi, ((((((Sweetie Girl!))))))) 🙂 I’ve been away and just got back a couple of days ago. Took me a minute to get here…the jet lag thing. 🙄 Whew, it really whoops my ass. > > I’ve got a lot on my plate at home but I’ll be around off and on reading and trying to catch up. I’m sure that’ll take me a few days as well. I need to write a report, too, as soon as I have the time. > > I hope you’re well and enjoying the summer. You deserve it after all the hard work you’ve put in at school! Now all ya gotta do is manage to stay outta trouble! 😛 > > Thanks for stopping by, Selva, I’m glad to see you. 😉 (((((((bebito bella)))))))) LOL aww, I hope that jet lag goes away you poor thing! But glad you dropped in to say hi! Oh-la-la so what have you been mixing up lately? Can’t wait to hear about your latest phero adventures! Yes, things are going fantastic now! I’m done with college and heading to uni this fall. I’ll try my best to be good 😃 lol!!! xox ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1113 "2009-07-14T21:01:25Z")
> [@QuietGuy](#): > > [http://img6.glowfoto.com/images/2009/07/10-1435417502T.gif](http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=10-143541L&y=2009&m=07&t=gif&rand=7502&srv=img6) LOL! ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/7/7b14f378eec734633782d64fbdc9dcb539238cf0.jpeg) 😃 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1114 "2009-07-14T21:03:05Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > _ **Oh-la-la so what have you been mixing up lately? Can’t wait to hear about your latest phero adventures!** _ Oooo, a little of this and a little of…_that_. 😃 > [@](#): > > _ **Yes, things are going fantastic now! I’m done with college and heading to uni this fall.** _ Glad to hear it. I hope you’re having fun! > [@](#): > > _ **I’ll try my best to be good 😃 lol!!!** _ Uh huh…😉 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1115 "2009-07-14T22:16:40Z")
Thank goodness for the new page. I was gaining 10 pounds everytime I scrolled past that pastrami. Heya Bella! Whatcha reading in the new avatar? Looks engrossing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1116 "2009-07-15T00:38:57Z")
Somebody call me if anything exciting happens. I’ll be back on the last page fondling the hoagies. OoohYahhh ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1117 "2009-07-16T08:29:02Z")
> [@renny](#): > > _ **Thank goodness for the new page. I was gaining 10 pounds everytime I scrolled past that pastrami.** _ LOL! Not hard to do around here. 😃 You can run… [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Elvis-Presley-Poster-C11791410.jpeg](http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Elvis-Presley-Poster-C11791410.jpeg) Instead of boring you with the usual details that everyone knows about Elvis, here’s a recipe for Elvis Presley sandwiches, instead. This was apparently Elvis’ favorite sandwich and he’d get his cook to make it for him quite frequently. Basically, take two slices of bread. Spread the outside with butter, spread the inside with peanut butter, add some chopped bananas and honey and, if you’re so inclined, strips of bacon (which you’ve already cooked). Put it together like a sandwich and fry it in a pan like a grilled cheese and you’re good to go. You might think, “Peanut butter, banana and bacon fried like a grilled cheese? WTF?”… but it’s actually hella tasty. 😛 When you’re done, you should have something that looks like this… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/6/63655510331da8b090b63f53d3c2da1f76634b8a.jpeg) Forgive me, I couldn’t resist! 😃 > [@](#): > > _ **Heya Bella! Whatcha reading in the new avatar? Looks engrossing.** _ 🙂 That would be… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/c/c0fe136ba56d9bffe9488ee1232aa6a097092a1d.jpeg) Ren, are you familiar with The Days of Wine and Roses? He wrote that, too. The original stage play starred Cliff Robertson and Piper Laurie. In the film it was Jack Lemmon and Lee Remick. If you haven’t seen it, I’m sure you can find it on NetFlex. Just make sure you’re in a cheery mood when ya tune into _that_ one. Thanks to Wikapedia, I found out Miller used to hang at The Swan Hotel in Lambertville, New Jersey. Wolf and I used to go there when we first started dating. 🙂 James Mitchener was from that area as well. I wonder if they knew each other? Maybe they were drinking buddies? Very possible. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1118 "2009-07-16T08:33:50Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > _ **Somebody call me if anything exciting happens.** _ Don’t worry, Mushroom Man, you’ll hear the screams. 😃 > [@](#): > > _ **I’ll be back on the last page fondling the hoagies.** _ Ya know, I wonder which you guys like more… pheromones… f\*cking …or food? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1119 "2009-07-16T13:07:30Z")
Never read J P Miller but Mitchener is a fave. I know, geographical histories, the only genre more pathetic than than Sci-Fi which I also love. 🙂 The thing is, you can read Chesapeake and then go to Delmarva and know where everything is and how it got there. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1120 "2009-07-16T14:48:54Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Don’t worry, Mushroom Man, you’ll hear the screams. 😃 > > Ya know, I wonder which you guys like more… **pheromones… f\*cking …or food?** 😛 f_cking. LOL. Hmm, a nice delicious meal, smelling all nice and phero’d up first… THEN f_cking. Trifecta? I probably spend the most money on food though. I remember one time I came up on a good sum of money and before I knew it, it was all gone. I went through my credit card bill to see what I spent it on. ALL food. Lots of money at supermarkets and restaurants. xD ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1121 "2009-07-17T07:26:27Z")
> [@renny](#): > > _ **Never read J P Miller but Michener is a fave. I know, geographical histories, the only genre more pathetic than than Sci-Fi which I also love. 🙂 The thing is, you can read Chesapeake and then go to Delmarva and know where everything is and how it got there.** _ Yes, that’s the _upside_ of geographical novels. LOL. I like Sci-Fi but I’m afraid my tastes lean towards the classics. Ya know, The Day the Earth Stood Still, The Invisible Man, Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I like the supernatural and mystical aspects but I don’t like a lotta gore with my Sci-Fi. I prefer to let my imagination fill in the blanks. I don’t really care for the kinda stuff Stephen King writes. Though I loved The Shawshank Redemption, it ain’t Sci-Fi. Wolf and I were talking about Michener earlier tonight and he told me that his aunts and uncles went to school with him! When ya come for a visit, Ren, we’ll take you to The Michener Museum and show you the area where he grew up. Then we’ll go to The Swan and eat and drink! It’s old and charming and they have a gorgeous copper bar there. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1122 "2009-07-17T07:30:21Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > \*_fcking. LOL. Hmm, a nice delicious meal, smelling all nice and phero’d up first… THEN f_cking. Trifecta? \*\*\* I’d say you’re a winner by a mile! 😃 > [@](#): > > _ **I probably spend the most money on food though. I remember one time I came up on a good sum of money and before I knew it, it was all gone. I went through my credit card bill to see what I spent it on. ALL food. Lots of money at supermarkets and restaurants. xD** _ I know, lol. I’m 😮 every time I see the bill. I think, Jeez…there’s only two of us, who’s eating all this stuff? 😛 Eh, there’s no crime in eating well. Good for you. Some people simply fill a hole. Ug. I’m not wiling to just eat anything. I forage for the good stuff. It doesn’t have to be fancy but it does have to be good. The way I figure it, if ya spend all your money on fast women, then you won’t have money for food. If ya dun have money for food, then ya can’t keep up with them anyways. Of course, in your never ending quest for good food, you could always meet a cute chef. Hm, time for a sandwich. 😃 Food is love and it’s good to love yourself enough to feed yourself well, right? Not that I don’t fall prey to the occasional Baby Ruth bar. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1123 "2009-07-17T07:59:18Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > - **Somebody call me if anything exciting happens.** \* Yoooohoooo… Ooooo, Mushroom Man… I’m testing Diane’s cops. Is that exciting enough for you? It’s got me excited! I’ll be takin’ 'em out for a spin this weekend, to a graduation party. There will be a nice cross section of people, so it should be fertile grounds for testing. I’m gonna hold it down to a dull roar with only a couple of other pheromones, yet to be decided. Others may choose not to test this way but Diane said I could test 'em anyway I want to. 🙂 Since I’m use to wearing cops with pheromones, on a regular basis, I’m gonna add some. Now, I’d normally wear SoE as a base and add other goodies but to clearly test I don’t want to taint Diane’s formula with any other cops. So, while I’m testing them…no SoE or anything else, that I know of, that contains cops. I have to say when I first got them the other day and sniffed them straight from the bottles, I liked them right away. They smelled right. 🆒 The “scented” one (yellow dot) was just slightly different from the unscented (green dot), in that is was a bit sharper and cleaner, faintly smelling of acidic fruit. By cleaner I don’t mean either one is in any way stinky/funky. They’re not, trust me. Fresh and sweet. Really. Compared to any other cops formula I’ve smelled, these are beautiful. I’ve diluted EoW way down and it still stinks. Yeah I can cover it, but goin’ on…phewy. Even when diluted they still need to dry down really well before covering. Anyways, they came in a little bottle with a swiper top and I just couldn’t figure out how to translate swipes to drops. So, I immediately sterilized two empty EoW bottles and transfered the cops to them. I figured I was use to applying drops for dosage so that’ll be the way I apply Di’s cops, too. Makes sense to me. Then I applied two drops, of what I determined to be the unscented … one to each inner elbow and touched to wrists. Within a few minutes they were _very_ soft and the scent was barely noticeable to me. So far, I don’t think Di’s cops _need any_ cover. I already can’t wait for the next batch to arrive! Don’t worry, I’ll make sure to eat right. If all goes well, I have a feeling the exercise part will take care of itself. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1124 "2009-07-17T15:12:27Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Yoooohoooo… > > Ooooo, Mushroom Man… > > I’m testing Diane’s cops. Is that exciting enough for you? It’s got me excited! I’ll be takin’ 'em out for a spin this weekend, to a graduation party. There will be a nice cross section of people, so it should be fertile grounds for testing. > > I’m gonna hold it down to a dull roar with only a couple of other pheromones, yet to be decided. Others may choose not to test this way but Diane said I could test 'em anyway I want to. 🙂 Since I’m use to wearing cops with pheromones, on a regular basis, I’m gonna add some. Now, I’d normally wear SoE as a base and add other goodies but to clearly test I don’t want to taint Diane’s formula with any other cops. So, while I’m testing them…no SoE or anything else, that I know of, that contains cops. > > I have to say when I first got them the other day and sniffed them straight from the bottles, I liked them right away. They smelled right. 🆒 The “scented” one (yellow dot) was just slightly different from the unscented (green dot), in that is was a bit sharper and cleaner, faintly smelling of acidic fruit. By cleaner I don’t mean either one is in any way stinky/funky. They’re not, trust me. Fresh and sweet. Really. Compared to any other cops formula I’ve smelled, these are beautiful. I’ve diluted EoW way down and it still stinks. Yeah I can cover it, but goin’ on…phewy. Even when diluted they still need to dry down really well before covering. > > Anyways, they came in a little bottle with a swiper top and I just couldn’t figure out how to translate swipes to drops. So, I immediately sterilized two empty EoW bottles and transfered the cops to them. I figured I was use to applying drops for dosage so that’ll be the way I apply Di’s cops, too. Makes sense to me. Then I applied two drops, of what I determined to be the unscented … one to each inner elbow and touched to wrists. Within a few minutes they were _very_ soft and the scent was barely noticeable to me. So far, I don’t think Di’s cops _need any_ cover. > > I already can’t wait for the next batch to arrive! Don’t worry, I’ll make sure to eat right. If all goes well, I have a feeling the exercise part will take care of itself. 😃 omg, cops that are usable without cover??? DAMN! BE CAREFUL BELLA. You’ve got wolf by your side right? He’ll take the rest of the horde while you fend off the first hundred or so… And these cops are directly from Diane or from some other company? I’m lookin forward to seeing what happens. Don’t get into _too_ much trouble… heck, you might even have to fight off the wolf! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1125 "2009-07-17T22:17:56Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > _ **omg, cops that are usable without cover??? DAMN! BE CAREFUL BELLA. You’ve got wolf by your side right? He’ll take the rest of the horde while you fend off the first hundred or so…** _ 😃 Well, the formula she just sent out is just the beginning. To me they aren’t very strong but I haven’t tested them in the field yet. That’ll happen this weekend. So far, I don’t see the need for cover. To start I’m just wearing them as is or with a spray or two of pheromones on top. She says they last a long time, sticking close to the skin. So, it stands to reason that a spray or two of pheromones or perfume will help to diffuse them. I’ve worn a couple of drops around Wolf, so far nothing outta the ordinary. He’s always affectionate so I look for a different kind of reaction from him. When _that_ happens I know it’s the cops. Don’t forget, I usually need a good amount of cops. When EoW _was_ EoW…I only needed about six drops but over the last couple of years the formula has changed. In fact it’s been all over the place. Frankly, it’s still not what it used to be. So now I need, Christ, 10-12 ^ drops. That’s alotta stink. If Diane can up the potency and keep the smell close to what she’s got now…W 😮W…talk about HELLA! O My. I feel giddy. 😛 I’m tellin’ ya. The government is gonna want this stuff. No shit. As for the horde…lol…that remains to be seen. It’ll be outdoors for the most part, though the adults (and I use the term loosely \* cough \*) have a tendency to cluster on the covered deck. I’m deliberately going to dress down. That means no shorts, no halter top, no sexy little sun dress and definitely no swimsuit! Even though it is a pool party…☹. Sigh, what I do for science. Anyways, there’ll be a bevy of nubile high school and college students there half naked. Is that a fair test? Good Copulin Goddess! I hope so. Wish me luck. I may just use the whole damn bottle! 😛 > [@](#): > > _ **And these cops are directly from Diane or from some other company?** _ This explains it - `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/womens-journals/dianes-copulin-formulations-testers-thread-33035.html` I’ve decided to stay out of that thread for the most part. That works best for me as I really don’t want to be, at all, influenced by what others are reporting. So, for those who are interested, my results will be posted here in the Ballroom. Maybe someone, besides you 🙂, will drop by…lol. > [@](#): > > _ **I’m lookin forward to seeing what happens. Don’t get into too much trouble… heck, you might even have to fight off the wolf!** _ Yeah, me too. Don’t worry about Wolfie… he’s tuff but I know how to take him down. Believe it. 😉 😃 ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1126 "2009-07-17T23:19:07Z")
> [@p79: Scented or Unscented?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-scented-or-unscented/4075): > > Do you think unscented p79 smells bad? Does it diffuse too much quickly and fade? How long does it last? Would scent cover help to diffuse it slower and/or further? If you use scented or oil based products over p79 would it have the same durability and diffusion than scented version? Thank you all wink > [@p79: Scented or Unscented?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-scented-or-unscented/4075/5): > > I have unscented p79. > > What I normally do with unscented pheromones is just dab (spray) them on top of whatever cologne I’m using (usually oil based). > > They mix with the smells just fine that way, and don’t stink. That way they diffuse just fine. If I’m desperate for a cover scent I’ll use a tiny quantity of extra scent over the top, but not enough to bog down the molecules. > > I hope it’s not presumptuous for this newbie to go off on a bit of a rant here. People need to realize there’s a difference between a tiny amount of pheromones on your body smelling a little _musky_ (remember, _musky_ is reliably rated as human being’s favorite smell – that is a scientific fact) and STINKING. > > I mean, one or two dabs of Edge (supposedly the stinkiest pheromone product) spread with your fingers to multiple areas of your otherwise fine smelling body and allowed to dry down is not going to make you stink to the general public. You will smell better, especially if you use a bit of essential oil or other scent with it! Just don’t put it in your pits for pit bacteria to transform. > > It’s not about covering anything up. It’s about proportion and context. > > -Androstenol smells good on your body in reasonable amounts, not bad! So does Androstadienone. So does -Androsterone. Being able to detect a little bit of pheromone smell, if you use the right amounts, makes you smell better to the general public! > > Having said that, I am wrong as hell when it comes to using a ton of Edge or NPA like Gegogi does. In that case you need to pay close attention to the art of cover scenting. > > It is a scientific fact that ASS is one of our favorite smells if diluted enough! That is just the way nature works. What do you think makes jasmine, rose and neroli smell good? ASS! Yes, one of the major scent chemicals (the indole family) in these precious flowers, along with skatole (also used in perfume) is the same thing that makes poop smell like poop. > > Even to the persnickity Asian (Japanese, in particular) palette, -Androstenol should be perceived as a very pleasant smell in the proper context. Contrary to popular belief, the Japanese love their musk – in the proper context and proportions. > > So anyone feeling paranoid that pheromones can be smelled can just relax. They are _supposed_ to stink in concentrated form, and _supposed_ to smell great in proper dilution and combination on someones body. Musk (human or otherwise) and “B.O.” are two very different things. B.O. is a corrupted, polluted musk. A lot of what you are smelling in B.O. are toxins from certain strains of bacteria, or dead bacteria. > > Ask any perfumer: The most useful and delicious substances in perfuming are very, very, very often substances that smell like the north end of a southbound bull, when concentrated. > > I will go so far as to say that pheromones are more effective if they can be consciously smelled a little bit, even though they don’t need to be. > [@SteveO put the S back into Sexi...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512): > > Don’t you know it wink > [@SteveO put the S back into Sexi...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/steveo-put-the-s-back-into-sexi/29512/196): > > This makes me chuckle… I’m not unemotional. I just don’t flame out. > > Beakers and labcoats… heh… I wish it were just that simple. I’ve learned a lot in this endeavor, I’m still learning, still researching, still developing, still stretching my mind to encompass as much real information that I can, to formulate a better picture of what is actually needed in this, and to produce something better. > > I won’t base what I’m doing on what some other company has formulated. My whole initial premise was that copulins, as produced by women, are unique to women in their ratios, in their cycle dependent consistency, in their concentration. And unlike pheromone molecules, concentration does matter very much, because these elements, the fatty acids, smell so very different depending on how much is there, and their ratios one to another. More is definitely not better, and there is a fine range of what smells good and what is horrendously gag inducing with regard to these elements. > > And others are working on analogs, working towards replicating the smells without resorting to what I’m doing (which is very much dependent on initial conditions). More power to them and I hope everyone working on this does well. > > But my project is attempting to recreate 100% natural copulins - to replicate what is produced naturally in women, to smell like clean, healthy, sexy women. Natural women’s smell is like a slice of heaven, and I don’t think we should have to put on something that makes us smell like an unwashed ass, or a cheese factory, or puke, or dog shit, or any of the other formulations that we’ve been asked to “work with.” > > We deserve better. > > Diane > [@Pheromones for depression](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-depression/5914): > > Hi I have been feeling depressed lately, as some of you my friends will probably know from my long standing blogg. [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ladies-a-lost-gentleman-needs-your-help/4552) I have been using 2 sprays of Instant shine, and find that it makes me feel happier but only for a short time. I dont know what else to use. So i was wondering if Any one else has used pheros for depression. What have you used and how. Any luck. If Jasmin or Mharris got any suggesstions. \*]Can any help me… > [@Pheromones for depression](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-depression/5914/44): > > There’s not so much in there that the perfume would smell gross, as anyone who owns it could attest. That’s not to say you’d like the perfume. > > I have more than ten years of experience working with musks, and know how to walk the line; to recognize the sweet spots with different substances. > > Some people have a sensitivity to civet, almost like an allergy. That’s what I’m talking about moreso than the smell. There wouldn’t have to be a smell for those people to have a reaction. You could be one of those people. If so, I’d stay away from it. > > But a little knowledge can be dangerous. For example a lot of people rave about how bad they hate patchouli, and yet the vast majority of those same people love perfumes that contain it, considering how many do. Patchouli is one of the most common fixatives. I think at one time most all perfumes contained civet as well, as a fixative. Even fake civet smells gross in raw form. The untrained nose usually can’t detect it. They extract it without killing the animal, BTW. > > But very few people really accept that the most aversive smells, in their proper context, are typically the most attractive and alluring. It’s ironic, and just hard to wrap your head around, unless you’ve experienced the effect a number ot times, in different ways. > > As a perfumer, the worse something stinks like ass or other bodily phenomena in its raw form, the more you will like it, as a general rule. You are going to use something at 1/1000 concentration, or something like that. Bodily smells are almost unfailingly rated as people’s favorites. > > The irony goes even deeper; in that, not only do people like those scents the best, they also characterize those scents as “fresh smelling”! Light musk is the smell of fresh laundry, for example, or of your significant other just out of the shower. When you smell “fresh” air out in the country, part of what makes the air smell fresh are the faint smells of skunks and other animals. Those smells are also what make you inhale more deeply, which is of course good for you. Until now, if it smelled fresh or sweet or clean it would mean a higher dilution and lower concentration of active ingredients. Especially when all of us here are used to wearing multi-megahuman size doses. But it does make a first class perfume. If copulins or any analog were able to have the blatant head turning, DIHL that we have come to expect from our pheromones at low enough concentration to smell fresh or sweet or clean in the bottle, this would a historic event in both pheromone and perfume history. Then again, this is Diane. Anything is possible. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826/1127 "2009-07-18T01:12:35Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Then I applied two drops, of what I determined to be the unscented … one to each inner elbow and touched to wrists. Within a few minutes they were _very_ soft and the scent was barely noticeable to me. So far, I don’t think Di’s cops _need any_ cover. > > I already can’t wait for the next batch to arrive! Don’t worry, I’ll make sure to eat right. If all goes well, I have a feeling the exercise part will take care of itself. 😃 > [@Bella](#): > > I’ve worn a couple of drops around Wolf, so far nothing outta the ordinary. He’s always affectionate so I look for a different kind of reaction from him. When _that_ happens I know it’s the cops. Don’t forget, I usually need a good amount of cops. When EoW _was_ EoW …I only needed about six drops but over the last couple of years the formula has changed. In fact it’s been all over the place. Frankly, it’s still not what it used to be. So now I need, Christ, 10-12 ^ drops. That’s alotta stink. If Diane can up the potency and keep the smell close to what she’s got now…W 😮W…talk about HELLA! O My. I feel giddy. 😛 I’ve worn up to 10X of what I sent you without a cover and with no complaints. Please do try two drops of the yellow dot one, and see if Wolf responds with that one. I have a feeling the cops are making ionic bonds to the skin, and need a little “lift” from a carrier molecule to diffuse properly. I could be wrong about that, and it is one of the things I’m looking at. I’ll be sending either four or six samples with the next mailing, all stronger versions… once I get some packaging to send them in… which should be mid week next week. Half of them will be mildly scented and half will be unscented. That will give you a little more flexibility in testing. Diane [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826.md?page=55) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/da-bella-da-ball-journal/7826.md?page=57)