# Damage\_Control's Damage Limitation Exercises **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [July 16, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150 "2012-07-16T13:25:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/21 "2012-07-27T10:55:15Z")
**Date:** 27 July **Product:** TAC **Strength:** 7.5mcg **Size:** ToGo **Amount:** x2 **Time:** 11:00AM **Application points:** either side of the neck **Self Effects:** None **Effects after 0-2 hours:** Civility - promoted by SMS text ‘manipulation’ groundwork. No talking as such, more co-existing. **Effects 2-3 hours:** unprovoked hostilities ensue, with the resurfacing of previous argument and criticism of previous attempted manipulation. Significant other then calmed to watch TV. Top up 2:00PM x2 **Effects 3-4 hours:** Out in garden with slight breeze - sat in silence for about 10 to 15 mins. Approached and kissed - semi reciprocated. She raised concerns and the argument was subdued but hostile. I walked away but she came in about 10 mins later to say some slightly angered but measured words. Things then calmed and remain OK for a while. 4.00pm: here we go again. A conversation raises the subject of lying. I must be lying because I got angry. I must be lying because I walked away. There are valid reasons for anger it doesn’t necessarily mean a person is lying. Top up 5:30PM x2 **Effects 9+ hours:** Things are calm conversation is normal. Whether it will remain like that is another question. **Thoughts:** There is no doubt in my mind that TAC is helping but it is only the last 10%. The rest is me. If it helps her relax and helps me relax when there is no anger or confrontation etc then that’s great. Whatever its other effects are then they seem to be helping too. I may top up again later it all really depends how much more time I spend in my SO’s company this evening. I am running low on mones and won’t get any until middle of next week at the earliest. I am kinda regretting not get a 30ml of IH now as I so need to bring some trust into this relationship. I am also regretting ordering the MX412 is it is holding up my order. But never mind I’ll get 30ml IH next time along with all the other cool stuff I have yet to try and supplies of the stuff that I know I will be using regularly. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 11:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/22 "2012-07-27T11:51:10Z")
Yes, it does appear that TAC is helping, but no mones will change someones perception of you without you putting in the personal effort. You already know that 🙂. In other words if you are a liar and a cheat then mones won’t change that perception. They will encourage the other party to believe that, but if all the while you still lie and cheat there won’t be substance for them to latch onto. I would amp up the TAC a bit though. Maybe 25-30 mcg 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/23 "2012-07-29T01:43:38Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Yes, it does appear that TAC is helping, but no mones will change someones perception of you without you putting in the personal effort. You already know that 🙂. In other words if you are a liar and a cheat then mones won’t change that perception. They will encourage the other party to believe that, but if all the while you still lie and cheat there won’t be substance for them to latch onto. I would amp up the TAC a bit though. Maybe 25-30 mcg 🙂 Thanks for the advice - it is very much appreciated. I’ve got a 10mcg bottle of TAC in my next order and it should be here tomorrow. You guys and gals at AD rock!!! I’ve no doubt I’ll be using a lot and I’ll most likely get a 20mcg to compliment the 10mcg I’ve got coming. BTW which of these products would have been custom made for my order? I ordered MX412 and TAC 10mcg in neroli. I only ask as it helps me greatly to have a good idea when I am likely to have my products delivered. I know there are other variables to consider but all helps 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/24 "2012-07-29T02:03:13Z")
She finally started her period today after an extra 5 days of hell! 🙂 Anyway she seems to have buried the incident for the time being and I have a stay of execution too. 😃 I thought about leaving anyway even if my SO doesn’t “kick me out” but my daughter is my rock - even though that role should really fall to my partner. I haven’t given up yet but any more incidents like that and I’ll have to go for my own sanity, her sanity and for the benefit of the kids. Of course the only problem with leaving like that is all the threats of court and not seeing my daughter etc. If I’m going I want it to be on good terms. I am doing what I can personally and I just hope it is enough. If the mones can help me keep things on an even keel whether that is as friends or partners then I’ll be happy. I didn’t need a top up of TAC on Firday after all and I remained mone free yesterday. The good news is that yesterday was incident free and talk was just general chit chat. We watched a TV show in the evening and everything seemed to go smoothly. This evening I’ll be applying 4 sprays of TAC @ 7.5mcg from a ToGo bottle which should give me a smidgen over 25mcg (another spray would put me @ 31.1mcg). I’ll keep that last spray as a topup should I need it. [edit: that’s based on a ToGo bottle giving 83.75% of the spray of a 30ml bottle - not sure if it is as simple as 7.5x4 = 30 30/100 x 83.74 = 25.125mcg? - maths is not my strong point] Tomorrow I’ll most likely be playing around with IH and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) in the evening. The IH is only a ToGo so I won’t be going mad with it. If the order arrives early enough I’d like to try IG solo during the day. Can’t wait 😃 ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/25 "2012-07-29T02:57:26Z")
> [@Damage\_Control](#): > > Thanks for the advice - it is very much appreciated. > > I’ve got a 10mcg bottle of TAC in my next order and it should be here tomorrow. You guys and gals at AD rock!!! > > I’ve no doubt I’ll be using a lot and I’ll most likely get a 20mcg to compliment the 10mcg I’ve got coming. > > BTW which of these products would have been custom made for my order? > > I ordered MX412 and TAC 10mcg in neroli. > > I only ask as it helps me greatly to have a good idea when I am likely to have my products delivered. I know there are other variables to consider but all helps 🙂 The Experimones and Putatives are custom made based on your scent preference, strength of scent and dosage per spray. The TAC I’ve sent you is truly 7.5mcg/spray - it came from a 10mcg 30ml bottle and when you transfer it to a to-go you will have 10/1.2= 8.3mcg/spray - I diluted it a little with Perfumers Alcohol to 7.5mcg/srpay so you will have an easier number to work with. 4 sprays will be 30mcg. ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/26 "2012-07-29T04:19:58Z")
> [@still18](#): > > The Experimones and Putatives are custom made based on your scent preference, strength of scent and dosage per spray. > > The TAC I’ve sent you is truly 7.5mcg/spray - it came from a 10mcg 30ml bottle and when you transfer it to a to-go you will have 10/1.2= 8.3mcg/spray - I diluted it a little with Perfumers Alcohol to 7.5mcg/srpay so you will have an easier number to work with. 4 sprays will be 30mcg. Awesome - thanks for the info. 30mcg it is tonight then 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/27 "2012-07-30T00:31:37Z")
Date: 29 July Product: TAC Strength: 7.5mcg Size: ToGo Amount: x4 Time: 7:30PM Application points:top of the head Self Effects: None Effects after 0-2 hours: relaxed evening watching TV show and surfing the internet. So was noticeably playing with her hair. She usually does this when bored LOL however we were watching a TV show she enjoys though she has lost interest in this show in recent weeks but still likes to watch it. I am reluctant therefore to say with any certainty it was the mones or not Effects 2-3 hours: lots of relaxed conversation led by my SO. I have found it is better to contribute as little as possible to these conversations because she doesn’t take disagreement well even if it is meant well and if I point out something i.e. an alternative view of a situation it always (and I mean always) makes her fell bad which is thenm my fault. If things are OK between us she will comment on how I have made her feel if not it will lead to a row. Now, this may be difficult to really understand from a journal so I will give an example (a very typical example and the one that occurred last night). She was shopping and saw her cousin’s wife (they have met only twice) who she said deliberately didn’t look at her. She described how it came about. I agreed that it was all very plausible, but added as it was a busy supermarket and even though they were both reaching for the same product, it is possible that she may not have recognised her and may have just been too busy to make eye contact with a ‘stranger’. There are many other possibilities that I didn’t go into but the one that I mentioned above made her feel bad… For f\*ck’s sake mun - I really should keep my mouth shut. anyway nothing bad came of this. TAC magic? 🙂 I think I’ll be applying IH somewhere where it won’t affect me too much. Talking of which… DHL site says they are out for delivery!!! Yay! ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/28 "2012-07-31T01:31:11Z")
**Date:** 30th July **Product:** IH **Strength:** Regular **Size:** ToGo **Amount:** 3 (2 partial sprays from new bottle and 2 full sprays) **Time:** 7:00PM **Application points:** Top of the head **Product:** IS **Strength:** regular **Size:** 30ml **Amount:** x4 **Time:** 7:00PM **Application points:** Neck - either side of Adam’s Apple **Self Effects:** None **Environment:** Indoors about 17-20C **Effects after 0-2 hours:** Watched a TV show nothing out of the ordinary. I considered upping the dose the next time I used IH. I also wondered how IH would affect someone who is supposed to trust me already. I applied the IH to the top of my head to minimise the self effects. **Effects 2-4 hours:** OK, so the conversation didn’t exactly go as planned. She did indeed open up to me. She does this fairly often at night. it was nothing particularly deep but it was meaningful. Unfortunately she took something I said as being negative, when in fact it was neither negative or positive. She got cross and remained silent for about half an hour. After the that she actually stated she was trying to have a nice conversation with me. A little latter she said it was supposed to be a meaningful conversation and that after she ‘gives a little bit of herself’ to me then I should do the same but I don’t. I remained silent at this point. There are reasons I don’t offer myself in this way to her. Namely, it highlights our differences. This is not a big deal to me but it is to her. I think there are plenty of differences that can complement each other. I should try and break through my male veneer when she goes off on this kind of conversation. Clearly, I don’t talk about liking walking in the rain and stuff because I am a man. Need to work on that - lets face it some women like this stuff and it is all part of the came. It doesn’t have to be lies. I just need to think hard about whether something simple as walking in the rain can be enjoyed - which of course it can. Therefore, I must open up and say so - help release some of those ‘Happy Hormones.’ Edit: Also, she started putting kisses on texts today… left over from IH last night or P131 today??? Anyway P131 testing today - report to follow later… ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/29 "2012-07-31T04:19:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Edit: Also, she started putting kisses on texts today… left over from IH last night or P131 today??? She might have felt an (intimate) connection with you. I guess you’re on the right path 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 10:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/30 "2012-07-31T10:54:07Z")
> [@still18](#): > > She might have felt an (intimate) connection with you. I guess you’re on the right path 🙂 I think you’re right. She would’ve put kisses on texts eventually but it would have much longer. I think I’ll stick with a similar dosage tonight 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 11:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/31 "2012-07-31T11:20:35Z")
\*\*Date:\*\*31st July **Product:** P131 **Strength:** regular **Size:** ToGo \*\*Amount:\*\*2 and half sprays (new bottle) \*\*Time:\*\*9:45 **Application points:** Neck - either side of Adam’s Apple. **Self Effects:** None **Effects after 0-2 hours:** Walked to town, went into the mall bought some stuff. It was difficult to look for hits because my family were with me. Exposure to others was minimal. When outside it was raining. Indoors I was not really in close proximity to anyone other than my family. My partner however was quite friendly towards me. Smiling as she was talking despite the usual stress that accompanies taking the kids out. One of my stepsons has ADHD and Tourettes and the other slightly autistic. Nothing unusual happened. I worked on my car then bathed and reapplied. **Product:** P131 **Strength:** regular **Size:** ToGo \*\*Amount:\*\*4 sprays (one of the sprays was a little weak) **Time:** 3:00PM **Application points:** Neck - either side of Adam’s Apple. **Effects after 0-1 hours:** Went to the mall. This time in the city. had to go to the post office where it was quite warm. Queued for at least 20 mins. No hits at all. **Effects after 1-3 hours:** Went to several shops and walked around the local marina. still no hits. 4 sprays may be too much. Will test 2 again next opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/32 "2012-08-02T02:06:24Z")
So I did quiet a bit of testing yesterday. During the day I tested A314 various application points. I won’t bother with my usual reporting format for this because A314’s effects are well documented elsewhere. I had little reaction with my family on 2 drops that I could tell but exposure was fairly minimal. I reapplied later in the day with 4 drops. I found A314 reminded me of moisturiser and was very subtle. I have 4 drops on today but I’ll be testing 2 again sometime over the next few weeks. I did find my eldest stepson a bit more chatty. Don’t know if the self effects made my responses more appropriate which encouraged further interaction or whether it was purely the A314 on him. I will have to wait and see. He kept approaching me about little things, which is what he usually does when we are getting on and that makes it all the more strange considering what happened in the afternoon - I’ll get to that in a bit… Alpha Vibe? Definitely as far as self effects are concerned. I felt broader, my shoulders were slung back even when sat at my computer. Message to self: upper lip is not a good application point. Even if it is well away from the lips themselves, I could till taste it. My partner said something to her father which was a bit offish (it was about me). I retorted curtley but in I-am-the-boss kind of way. She took it very badly and felt I embarrassed her. Now I am quick to retort anyway it is something I have worked on i.e. biting my tongue but not this day. I didn’t think I was rude - not this time. The way I see it is I am the f\*cking boss it’s just my SO refuses to see it that way. The problem is that I’ve lost quite a bit of respect in this family simply because I left work to help her care for her sons and I am no longer the bread winner. The bread winning bit WILL change - whether I return to work or go into business for myself I do not know yet but it WILL change. Anyway, she went nuts as soon as I had dropped her father off. I told her the deal and she decided to leave (she does this quite a bit). Now, she needed me to take her on a shopping trip to look at and order a new fridge freezer, although she claimed she’d have a male friend assist in that department. Fine, whatever. So, she left and I got changed. I text her a few minutes later and said I was ready to take her. She came back… It normally takes hours before she calms down and we go off to wherever we had planned. Or at least a hell of a lot more than a single text. We went to the store. A young, maybe 19 year old, female assistant asked if we need help. Definitely 9/10. I took the lead. A very quick and easy transaction. The assistant became chatty with the two of us after a while but didn’t seem to know who to talk to. I was leading and dealing with the the transaction but I made it clear my SO was paying. That may have just been confusion though, simply because I was leading and being the bloke an’ all… So, later my eldest stepson is approaching me whilst at the store, whilst shopping in a different store and when we are back home. He would normally keep his distance after I had rowed with his mother. Except I didn’t. She rowed with me. She went nuts. I stuck to my guns without loosing my temper. And the row was all over within 30 mins. She brought it up a bit later - not the row itself but the comment I made where I said I didn’t care. I didn’t engage in the conversation at the time because naturally I was more concerned with the row. She seems to have got the order things were said completely wrong, which makes a big difference. I told her later that night that I cared. Earlier I had been referring to sleeping on the floor etc as she was telling me that I had sleep on the floor and to look for another place, then I had to leave at that moment etc. Usual hoops she likes me to jump through. She needed to be specific when asking me whether I meant that I didn’t care. Because if she wants to talk about me to her father like that when I am in the same room and NOT expect me to respond then I will leave and no I don’t f\*cking care. **But of course I do care.** I care about the big picture. _I care about my family._ But, if that’s the way it’s going to be then then I will not care, I will leave and then I’ll start _caring_ from a distance and be a father and supporter in a different way. I’ll lay it out here so it makes sense. Her to her father “We have to wait for “Damage\_Control” because he sorting out his keys” (said in a derisory tone while he was waiting for a lift home). “You’ll have to wait.” said assuredly maybe a little bit curt. She seems to think she said “we are waiting” then I said “you’ll have to” then she said about the keys. Big, big difference. that would make me short and snappy for f\*ck all. Anyway… Later on I cleaned off the A314 and tried 2 sprays of IS regular, 2.5 sprays of HEAVY AMMO (new bottle) and 4 sprays of IH. Again we watched a TV show before settling. Not much conversion going on although I did prompt a few times. We were both tired. I realised that IH isn’t necessarily about conversion. Sometimes, it can just be about the mood. We slept closer together last night. I brought her into my chest. She had good whiff of the AMMO. _She said I smelt like fly spray LOL._ I said it was deodorant. First time with FF21. It was definitely soapy - not the sort of fragrance I would usually go for. Just as well really because I was thinking of getting _Cool Water_ as a cover scent. I won’t bother now. I’ll customise AMMO with a different fragrance next time. Can’t wait to try [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/). If she hadn’t been tired I think she’d have been there for the taking. So soon after an argument? Definitely the mones helping out. ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/33 "2012-08-03T10:28:36Z")
Well after yesterday evening’s [setback](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-p131-reporting-thread/56204/14). We patched things up to a degree. We are working on the other side of our relationship. Now I need to stop reading into things. Which brings me back to mones… She seemed desperate for me to tell her my feelings. It’s as though she want me to tell her that I still love her. I skirted the subject because I am no mood to say things like that when we are have heated discussions. Seems to me that this is A314 building up on her (which I was wearing solo yesterday) and the evening’s where I’ve been wearing IH. On with tests! **Date:** 3rd Aug **Product:** AMMO **Strength:** HEAVY **Size:** 30ml **Amount:** x2 **Application points:** collar bone **Time:** 12PM **Date:** 3rd Aug **Product:** IS **Strength:** regular **Size:** 30ml **Amount:** x4 **Application points:** top of the head **Time:** 12PM **Date:** 3rd Aug **Product:** A314 **Strength:** regular **Size:** 10ml **Amount:** x **Application points:** 2 drops behind each ear and 1 drop split between the wrists **Time:** 12PM **Self Effects:** none at first but later I was a little more extrovert than usual **Effects after 0-4 hours:** Went to the fun fair. Kids were well behaved throughout. GF’s sister was there along with her kids. Environment mostly outdoors - weather ranged from hot (for the UK) to cool when the clouds came over to light rain. No apparent hits at all. Evening OK so far. Topped up the A314 with another 2 drops about 5PM. Will see how the rest of the evening goes… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/34 "2012-08-03T14:35:37Z")
Here she f\*ucking goes again… why do I even bother! ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/35 "2012-08-07T10:18:50Z")
I don’t want to jinx myself but things have been [going well](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/they-work-they-definitely-work/56320) the last few days. During the day I’ve been wearing A314. I’m thinking of dropping the dose down as I’m not out and about that much so it’s hard to test my sweet spot. Although it seems to work well enough at home wearing 4 drops solo in the morning with 2 drops topped up in the evening. I wore IG yesterday just to see what it was like solo. Again just at home. I wore 2 sprays in the morning and topped up another 2 sprays in the evening. Things got frisky this morning with my GF so I am expecting things to happen again tonight. I’ve worn my usual dose of A314 today for tonight I’ve added 1 spray of TUTH 5mcg to the sternum along with a nice line of TAC (4 sprays @ 7.5mcg) heading down my stomach and I have 2 sprays of IS double to the top of my head. Should be fun 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/36 "2012-08-07T16:40:28Z")
Great journal, very eye opening. Id be careful with going over-board with some products just in case they set something negative in motion. Personally I’d stick to a lower dose when trying new things out when in a relationship. Just my opinion mate, I dont mean to intrude. ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/37 "2012-08-08T01:25:41Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > Great journal, very eye opening. > > Id be careful with going over-board with some products just in case they set something negative in motion. Personally I’d stick to a lower dose when trying new things out when in a relationship. Just my opinion mate, I dont mean to intrude. Hi KIMBA Your’re not intruding at all. All advice is very much welcome. 🙂 edit: I think you’re right too. Some of my early experiments were OD for sure, but she did have a cold… I’m going to be following the less is more from now on that’s why I only went with 1 spray of TUTH last night. Now that her cold is well and truly gone I have to be careful that she doesn’t whiff the carrier scent too much. Thank goodness for neroli 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/38 "2012-08-08T01:36:39Z")
Everything went great last night. I felt I didn’t need the mones at all. I’m pretty sure things would have happened anyway. So far today I am mone free but I’ll be putting on 2 drops of A314 this afternoon. The big O for her is still an issue. She described it as a brick wall. Things build, then kick off nicely only for a brick wall in her mind to just say ‘NO’ This is where P131 (possibly?) TAC and some of the MX’s might help in the short term but realistically I think I’ll be using A314 and IH to continue to build a trustworthy phero sig and see where that leads me. My next order will definitely be a 30ml if IH I’ll also pick up some A1 as soon as I can. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/39 "2012-08-08T02:02:26Z")
I find people comment on the scent only because they are hit by the mones. Especially if you wear them often. Just brush it off to your mones working mate. If she cant smell, she wont get hit I am glad things are going better. ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150/40 "2012-08-08T08:48:15Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > I find people comment on the scent only because they are hit by the mones. Especially if you wear them often. Just brush it off to your mones working mate. If she cant smell, she wont get hit > > I am glad things are going better. Thanks mate Yeah, I think she’s getting used to the neroli - she doesn’t seem to notice it. 🙂 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/damage-controls-damage-limitation-exercises/56150.md?page=3)