# Date mix with SO **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 17, 2008, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/date-mix-with-so/9228 "2008-02-17T07:53:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![northwestmichael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/northwestmichael/32/169_2.png) [@northwestmichael](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/northwestmichael)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/date-mix-with-so/9228/1 "2008-02-17T07:53:47Z")
Just about a week into my testing and have had some definate results as noted in my other posts. All week I have been wearing smaller amounts of -none usually mixed with other sprays. Mainly [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and Instant Shine, to try and get my SO adjusted to the change. I notice that there seems to be some agitaion when I wear them but it is combined with an increased sense of closeness that we haven’t shared in awhile resulting into physical closeness… so I think it’s heading in the right direction. Tomorrow night we are going out for some dinner and then drinks and just have a night out. I want to use this opprotunity to experiment further. My goal is to obviously have fun together, get her relaxed and aroused while we are out whilst being social and outgoing… Then home for continued fun. We will be out for about 5 hours. I have IS and IH, TUTH, Ammo, IFM and A314 to work with. I would like to possibly build them over the course of the evening. Any suggetsinos would be really appreciated! NWM ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/date-mix-with-so/9228/2 "2008-02-17T12:16:54Z")
> [@northwestmichael](#): > > Just about a week into my testing and have had some definate results as noted in my other posts. _ **All week I have been wearing smaller amounts of -none usually mixed with other sprays. Mainly Instant Honesty and Instant Shine, to try and get my SO adjusted to the change. I notice that there seems to be some agitaion when I wear them but it is combined with an increased sense of closeness that we haven’t shared in awhile resulting into physical closeness…** _ so I think it’s heading in the right direction. Hi michael! You’re wearing -none, I’m going to assume you mean A314, with Instant Honesty and Instant Shine… what dosage/strength of each are you using? I ask because in addition to your _choice_ of pheromones this makes a difference in how _you_ react and are recieved/percieved by others. What’s your age, mike, and the age of your SO? I think the agitation you’re experiencing may be from too much -none despite of the fact you’re wearing less. That’s a typical reaction to too much -none, especially if it’s unbuffered, as in Turn Up The Heat which is straight -none. Your age is a factor here…young men pump out plenty of ‘natural’ -none. So adding more, if that’s the case, could cause that reaction not only in you but in others as well. Is your SO also agitated? Not something you want if your objective is to have a fun, close, eventually sexy time with your SO. That closeness you’re feeling, despite the agitation, is from Instant Honesty. I can’t recommend Instant Honesty enough for intimate encounters or just encounters period. It enables people you know well, and who know you well, to reach a much deeper level of intimacy/communication. It can literally help people connect/reconnect on many levels in many ways. Once you experience Instant Honesty the way it’s meant to be used it can blow your mind. It’s something that more than stands alone but is invaluable when applied more specifically in combination with other pheromones. You need to read Tater’s journal. 😉 With people you don’t know it enables a faster, easier, more comfortable connection. They don’t even know you and start to open up. Another thing that’s interesting…sometimes the social pheromones, alone, can do more for attraction and get you more of what you want than the sexual ones. One thing we all stress is to go slow, go light and get to know the effects of the pheromones one by one. It’s how you find your ‘sweet spot’ for each one. And that ‘sweet spot’ is different for each of us. Once you get the basics together…_whoa, baby!_ And, yes, you’re headed in the right direction! Your observations are good! You just need a bit more understanding of how they work and be more judicious in how you steer things. > [@northwestmichael](#): > > Tomorrow night we are going out for some dinner and then drinks and just have a night out. I want to use this opprotunity to experiment further. _ **My goal is to obviously have fun together, get her relaxed and aroused while we are out whilst being social and outgoing… Then home for continued fun.** _ We will be out for about 5 hours. I have IS and Instant Honesty, Turn Up The Heat, Ammo, Instant Female Magic and A314 to work with. I would like to possibly build them over the course of the evening. Any suggetsinos would be really appreciated! NWM 2 sprays Instant Shine/social, fun - 1 to neck and 1 split to wrists 2 sprays Instant Honesty/connection, communication - where you spray also depends on how ‘honest’ _you_ want to feel…to the back of your head for less or to the neck/chest/wrists for more self effects 2 sprays [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)/relax and comfort- 1 spray to back of neck and 1 spray split to wrists…if you have slight depressive effects from this, some men do, then keep it all to the back of your head and/or use 1 spray 1-2 sprays AMMO - 1 spray to chest/neck and 1 to wrists Save the Turn Up The Heat for later, if need be, it screams…_do me now!_ More appropriate for one on one encounters and remember go easy…it can quickly turn ugly, from aggression/bitchiness, on both sides. Not conducive to a lovey dovey evening. More than you asked for but I hope it’s helpful. Have a great night, mike, hope it goes well. Don’t forget to keep us posted! Bella 😉 ---
**Author:** ![northwestmichael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/northwestmichael/32/169_2.png) [@northwestmichael](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/northwestmichael)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/date-mix-with-so/9228/3 "2008-02-18T00:32:52Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Hi michael! > > You’re wearing -none, I’m going to assume you mean A314, with Instant Honesty and Instant Shine… what dosage/strength of each are you using? I ask because in addition to your _choice_ of pheromones this makes a difference in how _you_ react and are recieved/percieved by others. Well primarily Instant Honesty and IS, then small (1 spray) of either ammo or Turn Up The Heat. I spray then walk into the mist shirt up 😃 That seems to be all she can tolerate. Not sure if it’s my phero sig or her or both. I also have been applying at night about an hour and a half before I get off of work. which is midnight, come home crawl into bed.. Aggitation then by 6 on the morning… playing 😛 > [@Bella](#): > > What’s your age, mike, and the age of your SO? I think the agitation you’re experiencing may be from too much -none despite of the fact you’re wearing less. That’s a typical reaction to too much -none, especially if it’s unbuffered, as in Turn Up The Heat which is straight -none. Your age is a factor here…young men pump out plenty of ‘natural’ -none. So adding more, if that’s the case, could cause that reaction not only in you but in others as well. Is your SO also agitated? Not something you want if your objective is to have a fun, close, eventually sexy time with your SO. I am in my early 40’s, she is in her mid to late 40’s… I have always been sexually aware and have had a decent drive since I was younger. No complaints from any of my intimate partners.. thus I am thinking I may have a high phero sig.. > [@Bella](#): > > Once you experience Instant Honesty the way it’s meant to be used it can blow your mind. It’s something that more than stands alone but is invaluable when applied more specifically in combination with other pheromones. You need to read Tater’s journal. 😉 I love this one.. Can I get it in 5 gallon jars? I started reading Taters journal. very entertaining and enlightening, but can someone point me to the index of table of contents for it?? 😉 > [@Bella](#): > > 2 sprays Instant Shine/social, fun - 1 to neck and 1 split to wrists > 2 sprays Instant Honesty/connection, communication - where you spray also depends on how ‘honest’ _you_ want to feel…to the back of your head for less or to the neck/chest/wrists for more self effects > 2 sprays Instant Female Magic/relax and comfort- 1 spray to back of neck and 1 spray split to wrists…if you have slight depressive effects from this, some men do, then keep it all to the back of your head and/or use 1 spray > 1-2 sprays AMMO - 1 spray to chest/neck and 1 to wrists > Save the Turn Up The Heat for later, if need be, it screams…_do me now!_ More appropriate for one on one encounters and remember go easy…it can quickly turn ugly, from aggression/bitchiness, on both sides. Not conducive to a lovey dovey evening. > > More than you asked for but I hope it’s helpful. Have a great night, mike, hope it goes well. Don’t forget to keep us posted! > > Bella 😉 I am following your recipe and will report back. Just to let you all know I applied a drop of A314 this morning along with a shot of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) to the back of neck and spray of Instant Honesty to the wrists about 10 am. I am hoping in shower now then heading out…so hopefully will be able to kind of start from scratch! Thanks for the help!! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/date-mix-with-so/9228/4 "2008-02-18T16:03:15Z")
> [@northwestmichael](#): > > Well primarily Instant Honesty and IS, then small _(1 spray) of either ammo or Turn Up The Heat. I spray then walk into the mist shirt up 😃 That seems to be all she can tolerate. Not sure if it’s my phero sig or her or both._ _I also have been applying at night about an hour and a half before I get off of work. which is midnight, come home crawl into bed.. Aggitation then by 6 on the morning… playing 😛_ > _I am in my early 40’s, she is in her mid to late 40’s… I have always been sexually aware and have had a decent drive since I was younger. No complaints from any of my intimate partners.. thus I am thinking I may have a high phero sig.._ From the description of your ‘symptoms’, i.e. agitatation, I was thinking you were…younger! You may have a higher level of -none, even at your…ahem…advanced age. LOL. IDK. You can always 86 the A314, AMMO or Turn Up The Heat and see how that goes…people still get plenty of great hits from the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) alone. Well, mike, eeeeverybody’s different…the men know about this much better than I do. Hopefully someone will stop by with some sage advice. When you report on this…just add the words SEX or MONKEY in the title…they’ll be along…😃 Hope it all worked out for you and do tell! Bella > [@northwestmichael](#): > > I love this one.. Can I get it in 5 gallon jars? _I started reading Taters journal. very entertaining and enlightening, but can someone point me to the index of table of contents for it??_ 😉 _Honestly…😉_ ---
**Author:** ![northwestmichael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/northwestmichael/32/169_2.png) [@northwestmichael](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/northwestmichael)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/date-mix-with-so/9228/5 "2008-02-20T05:09:47Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Hi michael! > > 2 sprays Instant Shine/social, fun - 1 to neck and 1 split to wrists > 2 sprays Instant Honesty/connection, communication - where you spray also depends on how ‘honest’ _you_ want to feel…to the back of your head for less or to the neck/chest/wrists for more self effects > 2 sprays Instant Female Magic/relax and comfort- 1 spray to back of neck and 1 spray split to wrists…if you have slight depressive effects from this, some men do, then keep it all to the back of your head and/or use 1 spray > 1-2 sprays AMMO - 1 spray to chest/neck and 1 to wrists > Save the Turn Up The Heat for later, if need be, it screams…_do me now!_ More appropriate for one on one encounters and remember go easy…it can quickly turn ugly, from aggression/bitchiness, on both sides. Not conducive to a lovey dovey evening. > > Bella 😉 Ok so I applied the above.. OMFG It was hillarious as we were getting ready to go and bolted into a room to do the spray thing quickly.. It was like doing the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) scarf dance… Spray here spray there, quickly before she caught me.. hehe which of course she didn’t.. So this was all around 5:30 pm.. By 5:45 we were in the car and on our way to dinner.. Let me back up for a sec becuase I think this is important… Earlier in the day I heard her say something like.. “I feel my time of the month coming up..” and as on cue she was not in a good mood at all.. grumpy and snappy.. Pretty typical for her and the timing was right. SO in addition to the above amounts I gave an additional spray of IFM to the neck and additional spray of IH to the wrists! lol.. Just to be safe ya know 😉 Ok so back to the car.. She was complaining all the way there. Didn’t feel good. etc… hmmm SO we get to the place and there is a furniture store next to the place. We decide to go walk around there.. I figure it will give me some time to expose her… heehee… This as we were walking around I purposely tried to get close to her then walk away then go back around her then walk away.. I noticed her mood was changing and she was starting to kind of follow me around the store. As we walk out she is smiling and took me by the arm.. Goofy look on here face and generally happy. Total 180 from the house. We get to the restaurant and get seated. We are in a big ass curved booth that would probally seat 8 people so she gets in and scoots all the way around the long way and suggests we sit close together. (her being funny).. So of course I do.. We are looking at the menu the female server comes over and as she is asking questions about what we need. she starts looking at me from the side of her eye.. lol… no biggie.. thought it was interesting though. MY SO is snuggling up next to me and we order. Then want some wine.. THe sever comes back over and we ask her for a sample of a chiraz. She comes back over with two wine glasses almost half full each. I’m like cool.. Lets sample it all! She looks at me and says “Sure! and laughs, and then says but I’ll have to join you.” Didn’t think much of that at this point but then she comes back with a bottle to open it and ask me if she should pour. Now I am thinking that she is being affected and instead of anyalyzing It’s time to play a bit and my SO is getting a kick out of it. So I say sure and while your at it pour us some upside down shots of the stuff too! She laughs and looks right at me and says.. “Ok great but I’ll just have to join you!” ok so this is twice now and she looks giggly and kind of has the same goofy look as my SO does… LOL.. She then looks at me while she’s pouring and says “I’ll take care of you” then over flows the wine bit.. OMG! then she come back with a napkin to wipe up the spill and says “see? told you I’d take care of you” Ok so then this older couple who is eating right across from us finish get up and come over to the table and start talking to us. Introduced themselves and the guy told us some corny joke.. They wern’t really leaving either just hanging there.. So the server comes back with the bill and they left.. She still had this sort of I guess you call it Deer in the headlight look… lol.. So we go to the movie, had a good time being close then left and headed home.. given that things are going well. I decide to go for TUTH. I run into t he room and spray my chest 1x. We both get settled in and off to bed and in record time we are going at it 😃 So this is seeming to be working to some extent here. I am wondering how do you gage -none build up and monitor it’s effectiveness. Will a gradully increased amount backfire or is there evidense that supports once someones SO is getting used to it you can ramp up a bit. OR if you just use a smaller dose it will even effect them anymore or just a little.. Bella! Thanks for all your help hon! Your direction has given me a better understanding. Like layering teh different products etc… BIG PROPS!😃 Ok so we eat and are having a great time ---
**Author:** ![northwestmichael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/northwestmichael/32/169_2.png) [@northwestmichael](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/northwestmichael)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2008, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/date-mix-with-so/9228/6 "2008-02-20T06:33:55Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Hi michael! > > 2 sprays Instant Shine/social, fun - 1 to neck and 1 split to wrists > 2 sprays Instant Honesty/connection, communication - where you spray also depends on how ‘honest’ _you_ want to feel…to the back of your head for less or to the neck/chest/wrists for more self effects > 2 sprays Instant Female Magic/relax and comfort- 1 spray to back of neck and 1 spray split to wrists…if you have slight depressive effects from this, some men do, then keep it all to the back of your head and/or use 1 spray > 1-2 sprays AMMO - 1 spray to chest/neck and 1 to wrists > Save the Turn Up The Heat for later, if need be, it screams…_do me now!_ More appropriate for one on one encounters and remember go easy…it can quickly turn ugly, from aggression/bitchiness, on both sides. Not conducive to a lovey dovey evening. > > Bella 😉 Ok so I applied the above.. OMFG It was hillarious as we were getting ready to go and bolted into a room to do the spray thing quickly.. It was like doing the pheromone scarf dance… Spray here spray there, quickly before she caught me.. hehe which of course she didn’t.. So this was all around 5:30 pm.. By 5:45 we were in the car and on our way to dinner.. Let me back up for a sec becuase I think this is important… Earlier in the day I heard her say something like.. “I feel my time of the month coming up..” and as on cue she was not in a good mood at all.. grumpy and snappy.. Pretty typical for her and the timing was right. SO in addition to the above amounts I gave an additional spray of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) to the neck and additional spray of Instant Honesty to the wrists! lol.. Just to be safe ya know 😉 Ok so back to the car.. She was complaining all the way there. Didn’t feel good. etc… hmmm SO we get to the place and there is a furniture store next to the place. We decide to go walk around there.. I figure it will give me some time to expose her… heehee… This as we were walking around I purposely tried to get close to her then walk away then go back around her then walk away.. I noticed her mood was changing and she was starting to kind of follow me around the store. As we walk out she is smiling and took me by the arm.. Goofy look on here face and generally happy. Total 180 from the house. We get to the restaurant and get seated. We are in a big ass curved booth that would probally seat 8 people so she gets in and scoots all the way around the long way and suggests we sit close together. (her being funny).. So of course I do.. We are looking at the menu the female server comes over and as she is asking questions about what we need. she starts looking at me from the side of her eye.. lol… no biggie.. thought it was interesting though. MY SO is snuggling up next to me and we order. Then want some wine.. THe sever comes back over and we ask her for a sample of a chiraz. She comes back over with two wine glasses almost half full each. I’m like cool.. Lets sample it all! She looks at me and says “Sure! and laughs, and then says but I’ll have to join you.” Didn’t think much of that at this point but then she comes back with a bottle to open it and ask me if she should pour. Now I am thinking that she is being affected and instead of anyalyzing It’s time to play a bit and my SO is getting a kick out of it. So I say sure and while your at it pour us some upside down shots of the stuff too! She laughs and looks right at me and says.. “Ok great but I’ll just have to join you!” ok so this is twice now and she looks giggly and kind of has the same goofy look as my SO does… LOL.. She then looks at me while she’s pouring and says “I’ll take care of you” then over flows the wine bit.. OMG! then she come back with a napkin to wipe up the spill and says “see? told you I’d take care of you” Ok so we eat and are having a great time Ok so then this older couple who is eating right across from us finish get up and come over to the table and start talking to us. Introduced themselves and the guy told us some corny joke.. They wern’t really leaving either just hanging there.. So the server comes back with the bill and they left.. She still had this sort of I guess you call it Deer in the headlight look… lol.. So we go to the movie, had a good time being close then left and headed home.. given that things are going well. I decide to go for Turn Up The Heat. I run into t he room and spray my chest 1x. We both get settled in and off to bed and in record time we are going at it 😃 So this is seeming to be working to some extent here. I am wondering how do you gage -none build up and monitor it’s effectiveness. Will a gradully increased amount backfire or is there evidense that supports once someones SO is getting used to it you can ramp up a bit. OR if you just use a smaller dose it will even effect them anymore or just a little.. Bella! Thanks for all your help hon! Your direction has given me a better understanding. Like layering teh different products etc… BIG PROPS!😃 ---
**Author:** ![northwestmichael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/northwestmichael/32/169_2.png) [@northwestmichael](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/northwestmichael)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/date-mix-with-so/9228/7 "2008-02-22T07:30:16Z")
> [@northwestmichael](#): > > I am wondering how do you gage -none build up and monitor it’s effectiveness. Will a gradully increased amount backfire or is there evidence that supports once someones SO is getting used to it you can ramp up a bit. OR if you just use a smaller dose will it even affect them anymore or will the effect be subtle Wanted to bump to see if I could get some feedback on -none buildup as quoted above 🙂