# Dating advice: I dodged his kiss on the second date, is he still interested? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 18, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367 "2011-05-18T17:31:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/1 "2011-05-18T17:31:31Z")
Okay so back on the dating scene after umm a bit of a middle life crisis. So I met this really great guy and I think we hit it off. Post second date, I wasn’t sure if he was interested or not (or gay and his mom just forced him to ask some random chick out) but after a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG awkward silence in the car he tried to kiss me and I dodged it and ended up kissing his neck. We hugged for a bit and I said he was really snuggly; he said I was warm. I said that I could sit in a corner of his room and be his heater (hint hint hint hint) and he said nah, better go home and get some sleep. Not sure if he is nervous but all the dates I’ve been on before this they’ve been sleazebags and wanted to jump me straight away. Not sure what is going on here 😕😕😕 The arousal cues that I get from most guys i.e. voice deepening, clearing throat lots, getting really pawy, excusing self to go to toilet, eyes wandering - all not there!!! For the record, was wearing three IO’s. : / ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/2 "2011-05-18T18:53:55Z")
> [@fullmoonnow](#): > > He tried to kiss me and I dodged it and ended up kissing his neck. This is where it started going wrong, I think. He moves in for a kiss and you dodge it. Even the most clueless of men will notice that and feel the sting of rejection. He probably decided at that point it wasn’t going anywhere and it’s best to cut his losses. > [@](#): > > We hugged for a bit and I said he was really snuggly; he said I was warm. I said that I could sit in a corner of his room and be his heater (hint hint hint hint) and he said nah, better go home and get some sleep. I think in his mind, you’re blowing hot one second and cold the next. Either that or he made the snap decision to bail out when you turned away as he tried to kiss you. I’m sure you didn’t mean to, but you accidentally rejected him. He’s sat there trying to figure out what’s going on, then you suddenly play the seductive card again. He’s even more confused now. This was just the second date. He’s unlikely to have developed enough of a personal rapport with you to overlook the perceived rejection and keep at it. > [@](#): > > Not sure if he is nervous but all the dates I’ve been on before this they’ve been sleazebags and wanted to jump me straight away. There are many possible explanations. I can’t begin to list them all. He could be nervous or he could simply be the civilised type who doesn’t want to frighten you off by moving things to the bedroom too quickly. Musk ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/3 "2011-05-18T19:14:18Z")
I agree with Muskcloud, you sent a clear signal you were not ready to move forward and he was probably feeling a little rejected especially if he is nervous already. Your gonna have to plant one on him to make up for it now LOL Seriously, if you like him kiss him. On your next date when he picks you up, greet him with a big smile and walk right up and kiss him on the lips. It doesn’t have to be a long one, but linger for a second or two. That will calm both your nerves because neither of you will have to think about it all night and if he is gay you will know right then. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/4 "2011-05-18T21:43:34Z")
I concur with them. You were giving him signals but didn’t react in congruency to that when he tried to kiss you. ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/5 "2011-05-19T05:57:13Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > I concur with them. You were giving him signals but didn’t react in congruency to that when he tried to kiss you. sighh so difficult but he acts really stand offish at times does he like me or not like me or does he want to kiss me or what what agrhgrhghr ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/6 "2011-05-19T06:00:14Z")
> [@MuskCloud](#): > > This is where it started going wrong, I think. He moves in for a kiss and you dodge it. Even the most clueless of men will notice that and feel the sting of rejection. He probably decided at that point it wasn’t going anywhere and it’s best to cut his losses. > > I think in his mind, you’re blowing hot one second and cold the next. Either that or he made the snap decision to bail out when you turned away as he tried to kiss you. I’m sure you didn’t mean to, but you accidentally rejected him. He’s sat there trying to figure out what’s going on, then you suddenly play the seductive card again. He’s even more confused now. > > This was just the second date. He’s unlikely to have developed enough of a personal rapport with you to overlook the perceived rejection and keep at it. > > There are many possible explanations. I can’t begin to list them all. He could be nervous or he could simply be the civilised type who doesn’t want to frighten you off by moving things to the bedroom too quickly. > > Musk Hmm but absolutely no physical contact like a light touch on the shoulder? I dodged because I had chapped lips. 😛 He did say he has dated only 2 women seriously in his entire 35 years. Is he gay? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/7 "2011-05-19T06:01:04Z")
You may be mistaking nervous for standoffish. I would say since he attempted to kiss you he wants to kiss you. Its your second date so I would say he likes you. Did you make plans for another date ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/8 "2011-05-19T08:28:05Z")
yeah we did nervous? why??? i’m harmless! didn’t dress like a slut or anything, didn’t have my bitch hat on… ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/9 "2011-05-19T08:29:28Z")
Ok important part, what [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), boys and girls, would you use in this situation? I used plain IO x3 10mcg spritzes wrist/wrist/neck ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/10 "2011-05-19T10:03:07Z")
> [@](#): > > nervous? why??? > > i’m harmless! didn’t dress like a slut or anything, didn’t have my bitch hat on… I am not saying you make him nervous. Maybe he is just someone who gets nervous around women they like. Its not a reflection of you but of his own feelings. Do you have any IH ? I would use a simple combo of [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/). IH and Ishine. Tish ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/11 "2011-05-19T11:01:19Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I am not saying you make him nervous. Maybe he is just someone who gets nervous around women they like. Its not a reflection of you but of his own feelings. > > Do you have any IH ? I would use a simple combo of Instant sexiness. IH and Ishine. > > Tish oops i insinuated that he may be gay tonight he’s really insulted ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 12:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/12 "2011-05-19T12:14:46Z")
> [@fullmoonnow](#): > > oops > i insinuated that he may be gay tonight > > he’s really insulted ((((fullmoon)))) LOL Why did you do that ? What exactly did you say ? I seriously think he has social anxiety. This is why he sits quiet awkwardly in the car. Why he sprung the kiss on you, why he has only been with 2 women seriously in the last 35 years, why he appears standoffish. I know how to get you out of the kiss situation but this one is gonna be tough because if I am right and he has social anxiety your insinuating he is gay is another blow to his confidence. So how insulted is he ? Is it more hurt or pissed off ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/13 "2011-05-19T15:23:11Z")
> [@fullmoonnow](#): > > Ok important part, what pheromones, boys and girls, would you use in this situation? > > I used plain IO x3 10mcg spritzes wrist/wrist/neck From what you describe, I get the impression of a very shy and unconfident guy. I must say I was a bit like that for a long long time after I split from a 9yr LTR with a very driven career woman. I felt very isolated from normal life and it took a very long time to find my feet socially again. I’ve found [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/)/Mx390 good around folk with social anxiety - Male and female. Its charismatic/socially attractive qualities seem to help bring them right out of their shell. Otherwise IS/IO or IO/IH may smooth things along nicely? Oh and before anyone else says it - **Bone him…!** 😛 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/14 "2011-05-19T15:51:25Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > ((((fullmoon)))) LOL Why did you do that ? What exactly did you say ? > > I seriously think he has social anxiety. This is why he sits quiet awkwardly in the car. Why he sprung the kiss on you, why he has only been with 2 women seriously in the last 35 years, why he appears standoffish. > > I know how to get you out of the kiss situation but this one is gonna be tough because if I am right and he has social anxiety your insinuating he is gay is another blow to his confidence. > > So how insulted is he ? Is it more hurt or pissed off ? > > Tisha I asked him if he was gay because he was way too nice and gentlemanly to be heterosexual and was he looking for a woman to have kids with because of the stigma. I was just being direct. He’s hurt 😕 I really do like him, he’s funny and smart under all that. I mean, I was trying to tell him that I liked him and I needed to know otherwise I wouldn’t have given a damn. I can’t stand braggarts. Also I work with enough alpha male types in my work place. : ) ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/15 "2011-05-19T15:55:21Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > From what you describe, I get the impression of a very shy and unconfident guy. I must say I was a bit like that for a long long time after I split from a 9yr LTR with a very driven career woman. I felt very isolated from normal life and it took a very long time to find my feet socially again. > > I’ve found MX297/Mx390 good around folk with social anxiety - Male and female. Its charismatic/socially attractive qualities seem to help bring them right out of their shell. Otherwise IS/IO or IO/IH may smooth things along nicely? > > Oh and before anyone else says it - **Bone him…!** 😛 😃 😃 😃 \<– Bone him??? Seriously? What if he thinks I’m crazy? What if he has erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation? Tish has already insinuated self esteem issues. ☹ So have you actually, reading back on your post. Oh man I don’t have the new funky mixes. I’ve got the IO IS and IH. : ( ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/16 "2011-05-19T15:57:36Z")
Oh yeah, a neck kiss can be way more erotic than a lip kiss / french kiss. Just putting it out there. LOL. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/17 "2011-05-19T16:54:36Z")
A neck kiss can be but when rapidly deflected from a kiss on the lips, it can be interpreted as disinterest/rejection. Much like when a date turns her head at the last moment and offers you her cheek to kiss - at very best that usually says - steady-on! How about trying IS/IO then? Thets a good happy/fun mix and there is little better way of gaining confidence than by having a really good time. 🙂 And although “bone him” was meant as a joke, there is maybe a nutshell of truth in there. If he is so shy and held back, it may well be up to you to drop a few more obvious signs of interest/hints. I’d guess he wouldn’t know an IOI if it hit him? Good luck! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/18 "2011-05-19T19:14:28Z")
> [@](#): > > I asked him if he was gay because he was way too nice and gentlemanly to be heterosexual and was he looking for a woman to have kids with because of the stigma. > > I was just being direct. > > He’s hurt 😕 I know you were just being direct and you didnt mean to hurt him. Some people have a hard time with direct. I am pretty direct myself so I spend lots of time fixing the booboo of the wounded pride. Ok if he were pissed I would suggest a different approach then hurt thats why I asked. Next get together, compliment him a few times. Just casually in conversation. If the subject of your question about his orintation comes up turn your response into a compliment. “Your such a attractive, respectful guy I am shocked some girl hasnt snagged you up yet so it made me wonder if your were gay… I am so happy your not” Something to that effect. This way you stroke his ego a little and build confidence his back up and expreses interest at the same time. Best way to fix a booboo is to kiss it and put a baidaid on it and stroking his ego will be doing that. Everyone has a ego even people with anxiety or confidence issues. I am still for kissing him on the lips when you greet him. I still do this when I see my husband every day. Use IH and Ishine. As for boning him lets get past the awkwardness and the booboo a little more first then jump his bones if thats what you want to do. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/19 "2011-05-20T01:54:42Z")
Yea…asking if a guy you’re on a date with is gay, that’s like taking a board with a rusty nail in it and whacking his already fragile balloon of confidence. Obviously you didn’t mean it to be harmful. This is one of those things that sounds okay in our heads but makes us look like asses in reality. Go with Tish’s advice. A bit more direct but not aggressive. Aggressiveness might scare him. ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/20 "2011-05-20T04:51:16Z")
Wee going on another date today - so this is my plan. 1. Gonna give him a big giant hug when I see him and big plant a wet one on his cheek. 2. He can dodge - so we’re even. 3. Hold his hand. (yeah we haven’t even gotten that far. gods I feel like I’m 15) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367.md?page=2)