# Dating advice: I dodged his kiss on the second date, is he still interested?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 18, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367 "2011-05-18T17:31:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/21 "2011-05-20T04:59:41Z")

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_NSFW_

Good god. I just realised something. If he has social anxiety, he may be on this forum! Egads.

I used pheros to climb the corporate ladder and to thrive in an alpha male dominated world. Social life was put on the back burner.

In the process, I sort of ended up with an ultra beta male boyfriend that I wasn’t really attracted to (don’t try this at home - he was head over heels in love with me but I really wasn’t that into him, chose him for his job stability and his ability to morally support me through my psycho career path), got engaged, uh ignored him a lot, inadvertently got frustrated, broke up, went on a psycho rampage dating other men, discovered one was married, became a nymphomaniac temporarily after discovering real sex with experienced partners, had FBs for a little while, then stopped all that, period of calm, decided to be a workhorse again, and now I finally finally finally meet someone who gives me butterflies in my stomach. How is that even possible? I have never had someone give me butterflies in my stomach unless we ordered dodgy food for dinner.

Lordy I am stressing too much over this.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/22 "2011-05-20T05:51:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> (yeah we haven’t even gotten that far. gods I feel like I’m 15)

> [@](#):
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> I finally finally finally meet someone who gives me butterflies in my stomach. How is that even possible? I have never had someone give me butterflies in my stomach unless we ordered dodgy food for dinner.

Hey thats fun and exciting though which is great. 😃

I doubt very much he is here. Social anxiety happens to millions. The forum is big but not that big.

Your plan sounds good, do what your comfortable doing. If your not comfortable kissing him on the lips just yet then go with the cheek. Maybe he will dodge like you said and you will get his lips LOL

Have a great time 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/23 "2011-05-20T07:30:40Z")

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Last minute panic  
what if he is a player  
and this is his game

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**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/24 "2011-05-20T07:58:12Z")

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AHHHHHH!!! 5 more minutes and I spilled EOW! I SMELL LIKE CHEESE!!!

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**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/25 "2011-05-20T07:58:36Z")

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Nooooooooooo oooooo oooooo oooooooo oooo  
if i dont answer i am busy scrubbing myself with a wire brush

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**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/26 "2011-05-20T07:58:59Z")

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I can’t believe this

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**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 9:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/27 "2011-05-20T09:55:27Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Hey thats fun and exciting though which is great. 😃
> 
> I doubt very much he is here. Social anxiety happens to millions. The forum is big but not that big.
> 
> Your plan sounds good, do what your comfortable doing. If your not comfortable kissing him on the lips just yet then go with the cheek. Maybe he will dodge like you said and you will get his lips LOL
> 
> Have a great time 😉
> 
> Tisha

About that last part Tish, it reminds me of my last girlfriend. We were in the back seat of her car while heading on a road trip (someone else was driving) and she was leaning against me. Occasionally I would kiss her on the head and then she would go for my cheek. At one point we both went at the same time and ended up kissing on the lips. She suddenly turns away with a very akward vibe. Turns out that was her first kiss 🙂 (she started dating late in life)

Fullmoon: you’ll be fine 🙂

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/28 "2011-05-20T11:38:22Z")

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> [@fullmoonnow](#):
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> Wee going on another date today - so this is my plan.
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> 1. Gonna give him a big giant hug when I see him and big plant a wet one on his cheek.
> 
> 2. He can dodge - so we’re even.
> 
> 3. Hold his hand.
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> (yeah we haven’t even gotten that far. gods I feel like I’m 15)

Excellent! I hope it goes very well - Cheese or no cheese! 😛😃

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**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/29 "2011-05-20T15:37:19Z")

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Oh wow. That’s all I can say.

We [censored] then we [censored].

You guys were right on.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/30 "2011-05-20T18:22:09Z")

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LOL Yayyyy you “censored” and then you “censored” 😃

Isnt it amazing what kissing a little booboo can do 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/31 "2011-05-21T04:36:46Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> LOL Yayyyy you “censored” and then you “censored” 😃
> 
> Isnt it amazing what kissing a little booboo can do 😉
> 
> Tisha

So anyway guys, gay-test mix

2 drops EOW with cover scent (i spilled some on my lap tho couple of drops) one behind each ear

Instant Sexiness 2 drops x 5mcg neck

[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 2 drops each wrist x10mcg

Instant Honesty 1 drop each wrist x2.5mcg

No, his booboo was not little. 😛 Sorry couldn’t resist.

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/32 "2011-05-22T00:45:12Z")

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Pro Tip: Calling a guy gay is like calling a girl fat.

Even joking, it should be avoided like being in a vehicle with any Kennedy.

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**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/33 "2011-05-22T12:26:29Z")

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oooh

this is going a bit fast now

uh went phero free today just in case

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**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/34 "2011-05-22T23:26:26Z")

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> [@fullmoonnow](#):
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> Nooooooooooo oooooo oooooo oooooooo oooo  
> if i dont answer i am busy scrubbing myself with a wire brush

and Dettol? 😃

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/35 "2011-05-23T00:13:38Z")

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A quick little comment, some people mirror the energy around them. Usually how good couples form such as introverts connecting with extroverts. But in your case he may be the introvert, so show him your extroverted side 😉

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**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/36 "2011-05-23T09:08:58Z")

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> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
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> Pro Tip: Calling a guy gay is like calling a girl fat.
> 
> Even joking, it should be avoided like being in a vehicle with any Kennedy.

But if someone called me fat I would just laugh because I’m skinny like a boy. I would however be unhappy if I secretly thought I was fat.

Would he be angrier if he was a closet homo?

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/37 "2011-05-26T17:47:42Z")

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> [@fullmoonnow](#):
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> But if someone called me fat I would just laugh because I’m skinny like a boy. I would however be unhappy if I secretly thought I was fat.
> 
> Would he be angrier if he was a closet homo?

Did you really just type “homo”? Really? 🙄 What is your obsession with that? Maybe it’s you who are afraid you keep turning men gay or shriveling their manhood with your expectations and actions. If that is your fear, I recommend exploring why and maybe seeking therapy. Because you cant keep projecting that onto your dates and men around you.

He tried to kiss you, you pulled away, he got discouraged, you tried to get him to take you home and he didn’t feel confident. HELLO?? YOU did that to him. It has nothing to do with his masculinity. Regardless of what’s happened since - you keep being obsessed that he might be gay - and he will pick up on that. Its not good.

I think you should do this guy a favor and leave him alone.

You don’t exactly seem like you’d be doing each other any good at all.

Sorry so honest.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/38 "2011-05-26T21:47:19Z")

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> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
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> Did you really just type “homo”? Really? 🙄 What is your obsession with that? Maybe it’s you who are afraid you keep turning men gay or shriveling their manhood with your expectations and actions. If that is your fear, I recommend exploring why and maybe seeking therapy. Because you cant keep projecting that onto your dates and men around you.
> 
> He tried to kiss you, you pulled away, he got discouraged, you tried to get him to take you home and he didn’t feel confident. HELLO?? YOU did that to him. It has nothing to do with his masculinity. Regardless of what’s happened since - you keep being obsessed that he might be gay - and he will pick up on that. Its not good.
> 
> I think you should do this guy a favor and leave him alone.
> 
> You don’t exactly seem like you’d be doing each other any good at all.
> 
> Sorry so honest.

😮 Your kidding right. Jeez she didnt cut his dick off with a butter knife or anything she just has concerns for his sexual preference. No sense falling for a guy and finding out later he is hiding jimbob in the closet. Plus its not like she is still sharing the concern with him she is looking for our take on it.

Dont leave the man alone if you like him.

Its nothing that cant be fixed and from what I can tell it already has been. From your last few posts I think he may have put that concern to rest. 😃

Regarding your question… His being mad because you asked him if he is gay is not a indication of being gay. Some men are gay phobic (not that there is anything wrong with being gay) Its just a blow to his manhood. It makes him think that you think he is not masculine enough. How he felt is more like… him seeing a pretty girl and saying to you “hey she is pretty you should get your hair done like that” Its like what they fuck is that supposed to mean LOL Its not really a insult and probably meant well but it leaves you feeling bad.

Just keep up the censoring behavior and have some fun. 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/39 "2011-05-26T22:31:09Z")

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> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
>
> Did you really just type “homo”? Really? 🙄 What is your obsession with that? Maybe it’s you who are afraid you keep turning men gay or shriveling their manhood with your expectations and actions. If that is your fear, I recommend exploring why and maybe seeking therapy. Because you cant keep projecting that onto your dates and men around you.
> 
> He tried to kiss you, you pulled away, he got discouraged, you tried to get him to take you home and he didn’t feel confident. HELLO?? YOU did that to him. It has nothing to do with his masculinity. Regardless of what’s happened since - you keep being obsessed that he might be gay - and he will pick up on that. Its not good.
> 
> I think you should do this guy a favor and leave him alone.
> 
> You don’t exactly seem like you’d be doing each other any good at all.
> 
> Sorry so honest.

Hey John, going off topic here for a moment but is this a result of something you’ve seen a lot from women in general or any particular experiences of your own? I’m curious as I’ve seen it a few times myself.

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dating-advice-i-dodged-his-kiss-on-the-second-date-is-he-still-interested/50367/40 "2011-05-26T22:35:05Z")

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> [@2000GT](#):
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> Hey John, going off topic here for a moment but is this a result of something you’ve seen a lot from women in general or any particular experiences of your own? I’m curious as I’ve seen it a few times myself.

Not sure what you mean?

Are you asking me if I’d had women question my sexuality? No. But then again, maybe its something they keep on the inside.

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