# Day 5 of my Testing & Result (Final try at Nightclubs) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 4, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155 "2008-05-04T01:36:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/1 "2008-05-04T01:36:40Z")
Hi to all my friendly friends & others in this forum, before i start my report, i would tell that well something bad just happened to me, i accidentally lost my credit card due to my carelessness ☹ Urgh… Now i can’t make my second order to Androtics & my other online stuff before i get a replacement of my card that is 2-3 weeks. Damn! I feel like hitting my head to the wall that time ☹ Well it is fated to happened to me so be it. Anyway here is the Testing & Result of Day 5 listed below: (it is not a good one quite a sad one compared to the great reports make by others 🙄 great hits using this or that) Day 5: Friday 2 May 2008(I didn’t go out the other days) Pheromore used for Day 4 & how much it was used: A drop of A314,3 sprays of Turn Up The Heat & 6 sprays of Togo [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)(Double Strength) \> (I did the layering technique just let you know) Report: I went to get a ring for myself at the accessories shop, hang out at my old hang out Nightclub called Zouk (some of my friends work there, one is a manager there) & went to a new nightclub called The Arena. Ok, I want to make the report quick, short & easy to understand. Well on my way there on a train i noticed a few stares from some people mostly middle aged men (no offence intended here) that i ignored. Then managed to find a accessories shop after a few searches, the seller was quite polite & show a couple of good rings in which i buy one & get a good discount easily at $36 instead of $39.90. Plus the ring got blings on it 🙂 Must be the work of pheros i thought. I went to have a quick dinner & have a nervous & scared reaction from the person serving me there(A314 i guess). During dinner, have a girl staring at me but i ignored her as she is with her group of friends & her boyfriend was next to her. Don’t want to get into a fight wouldn’t we? After i get on a cab & during the journey the cab driver was very chatty (due to pheros i thought) then reached my old hangout Nightclub, came to say to my friends plus my manager friend that is working there & hang out for while & left after that. The girls there got their bitch shields fully locked on in a dangerous level 😮 I got on a cab to go to the New nightclub & nothing happened inside the cab. The cab driver was his usual self. After reaching there, went to the New Nightclub & got pushed by a bouncer that nearly make me fell on the ground 😠 because he is trying to get someone out of the club, pay the cover charge & get my usual drink Vodka Redbull. After i finished with my drinks, i went to order a jug of Vodka 7UP. The Jugs are going one for one that time. During my drinking session, i watch a preformance held at the Nightclub. It was a good preformance that consist of singers,dancers & musicians. During the preformance, i tried to make some body language to the girls there but failed no response even with pheros.The girls there got their bitch shields fully on in a dangerous level as well 😮 I give one of my glass that i pour my jug to one of the preformer in which he say thanks. So after the nightclub closed, i end up badly drunk & sad & puke badly at the restroom. Both Nightclubs, nothing happened. This is my last try at Nightclubs, all my Testing & Results will be at my school from now on. No more clubbing. I have enough of it. Note: What i have written in here is the truth & nothing else. Day 5 turned out different than Day 4 …a sad day but i will continue to use more & more [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) from Androtics in which i intent to order more on my second order when i received a replacement on my credit card in 2-3 weeks. Damn it! Anyway thanks for your time reading my report & feel free to leave any comments,advices or opinions 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/2 "2008-05-04T01:43:01Z")
> [@PhatSounds](#): > > I went to have a quick dinner & have a nervous & scared reaction from the person serving me there(A314 i guess). That must be the effect of TUTH rather than A314. Try again. You have the spirit and persistent. Good luck to you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/3 "2008-05-04T02:08:51Z")
> [@jamesbonded](#): > > That must be the effect of Turn Up The Heat rather than A314. > > Try again. You have the spirit and persistent. Good luck to you 🙂 Thanks bro for wishing me good luck & advice 🙂 Yup most probably TUTH. I will try again but not nightclubs anymore but at my school 🙂 I had it with Nightclubs. ---
**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/4 "2008-05-04T02:14:39Z")
The good thing is u see the mones work. Now you have to find the right mix. Im still experimenting. I need to buy IO or IH but I keep putting it off. Keep up the good work phatsounds. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/5 "2008-05-04T02:19:33Z")
> [@jayzee327](#): > > The good thing is u see the pheromones work. Now you have to find the right mix. Im still experimenting. I need to buy Instant Openness or Instant Honesty but I keep putting it off. Keep up the good work phatsounds. Thanks for your compliment jayzee 🙂 Well the right mix even i have difficulty on it. Carry on experimenting as i will do that also. Anyway why you keep putting [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Instant Honesty off? May i know? ---
**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/6 "2008-05-04T02:27:43Z")
I have so many mones and need to experiment. I took a long time off and then am now coming back. Here is what I have. SOE, C7, The Edge, NPA, Alpha 7, A314, IS and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). I still need to work with half of them. IS is my fav since its so easy to work with. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/7 "2008-05-04T02:32:37Z")
> [@jayzee327](#): > > I have so many pheromones and need to experiment. I took a long time off and then am now coming back. Here is what I have. Scent of Eros, C7, The Edge, NPA, Alpha 7, A314, IS and Ammo. I still need to work with half of them. IS is my fav since its so easy to work with. Hmm, you got a good selection there jayzee 🙂 Wish all the best in trying them out 🙂 I did wanted to get IS the double strength version but after what happened to my credit card well I guess i have to wait. Good luck on your experiments 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![K24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k24/32/1513_2.png) [@K24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K24)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/8 "2008-05-04T06:08:10Z")
> [@PhatSounds](#): > > I will try again but not nightclubs anymore but at my school 🙂 I had it with Nightclubs. welcome to the dark side dude 🙂 guess what I’m also not a big fan of nightclubs, it’s not for everyone. maybe try something more gentle like ammo (instead of tuth) and IO + IS. good luck with your tests. zai jian 😃 ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 6:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/9 "2008-05-04T06:14:54Z")
> [@K24](#): > > welcome to the dark side dude 🙂 > > guess what I’m also not a big fan of nightclubs, it’s not for everyone. > > maybe try something more gentle like ammo (instead of Turn Up The Heat) and Instant Openness + IS. good luck with your tests. > > zai jian 😃 Thanks for the advice K24 🙂 Well i guess you are right about nightclubs are not meant for everyone. Well it’s not for me already. Thanks for wishing me luck on my tests 🙂 P.S. Btw, what is zai jian 😕 I don’t get you there. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/10 "2008-05-04T08:16:54Z")
Remember Phat that anone is sticky and can build up. I think your using to much TUTH myself. Keep testng though your doing good. Remember your gonna have off days. All the experienced users have them. Some days it just dosnt come together with a mix. Oh and its easier to see reactions from others if you lay off the alcohol a bit. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/11 "2008-05-04T08:38:33Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Remember Phat that Androstenone is sticky and can build up. I think your using to much Turn Up The Heat myself. Keep testng though your doing good. Remember your gonna have off days. All the experienced users have them. Some days it just dosnt come together with a mix. > > Oh and its easier to see reactions from others if you lay off the alcohol a bit. 😉 > > Tisha Hmm, i agreed on what you have said Lady Tisha 🙂 , i know that Androstenone is sticky & can build up. Franky speaking very sticky if you tell me. I have done some research to it. Maybe i use too much TUTH well i don’t know 😕 Well sometimes you gonna have bad days & sometimes good days. Well i think i might have drink too much but at first at the first club well i didn’t drink much at all like i was in the second club but still no reactions. The girls still have their bitch shields activated on (excuse my language there). Anyway thanks for the advice Lady Tisha 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 8:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/12 "2008-05-04T08:46:09Z")
phat, as per your report, you don’t go out for 2 days. i suppose you don’t use phero on the days. that will take care of the build up. maybe you use too many sprays on day 5. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 8:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/13 "2008-05-04T08:47:30Z")
tisha, it should be 0400 over there. you wake up very early. hehe ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/14 "2008-05-04T08:56:02Z")
> [@jamesbonded](#): > > phat, > as per your report, you don’t go out for 2 days. i suppose you don’t use phero on the days. that will take care of the build up. maybe you use too many sprays on day 5. Yes bro, i didn’t went out for two days & that might take care of the pheromone build up. Maybe i use too much sprays of pheros in day 5 like you have said, well i don’t know. I kinda puzzled now 😕 > [@jamesbonded](#): > > tisha, > it should be 0400 over there. you wake up very early. hehe Yeah, i agreed with my bro jamesbonded, that’s really early of you to be up already & it’s a Sunday lady Tisha. Hmm,what happened 😕 P.S. Jamesbonded nice babes man in your new avatar 😃 You keep changing your pics everytime dude. I haven’t finish seeing the previous one yet 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/15 "2008-05-04T12:24:16Z")
Hey PS! Thanks for the PM! I’ve got a terrible headache today… 🙂 I’m pretty sure you overdid it with 3 sprays Turn Up The Heat - that most certainly is one of the reasons for the bitch shields. You know, Androstenone sends out a clear aggressive sexual message. Most of the girls are not really prepared to go that way with a total stranger - understandable, right? I think Turn Up The Heat is best towards people you already know, who trust you and who already are attracted to you. Sending a strong sexual message to a girl who doesn’t know you (after all you could be some weird freak or worse) won’t work in most cases. The best way for getting to know girls (pheromone wise) is to tune down the sexual message - think one spray of Ammo (you don’t have to get rid of androstenone completely in the first phases, but it should be subtle). Use a good deal of [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) instead - Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, IS - who make it easier for the girls to open up to you. As soon as they’ve got to know you more and you’ve established a certain degree of comfort and rapport you can slowly (!) reintroduce the more sexual parts. Of course there are instances when someone wears a ton of androstenone and practically gets raped in the backyard, but I’m pretty sure these occassions are very rare and will only happen with women who have a very open sexuality (and often are drunk as hell 😃). By using the socials first you’ll have more success and this success will include more of the emotionally stable women who are good dating and relationship ‘material’ (sorry, couldn’t think of a better term). After all, that’s my opinion on the whole deal. There might be a several people on this board who have a contrary opinion. For me Androstenone is totally overrated - at least in the context of getting to know women (or people in general). In a relationship it’s a whole other deal! ---
**Author:** ![TX601drvr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tx601drvr/32/1204_2.png) [@TX601drvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TX601drvr)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/16 "2008-05-04T12:46:40Z")
Sorry to hear of your bad luck. I have been having incredible results with Ammo, IS and IH. 😃 Invited a girl to have a drink with me last night and we ended up talking for over three hours. Part way thru the conversation I decided I wasn’t real interested in her but could not get away, she kept throwing IOI’s, touching me good eye contact, etc., but I was the one this time not into her. We’re both divorced, but with the effects of the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (I think) she tells me that she left hubby #1 after an affair. After she tells me this she pauses and says “I don’t know why I just told you that!” (she was not drunk or high) and looked totally surprised. I wouldn’t give up on the pheromones but keep experimenting like others with a lot more experience than I have advised. Good luck to you.😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/17 "2008-05-04T13:24:05Z")
Hey Phatsounds, if you are worried about buildup, dont use none on days you plan on laying low. Plus ammo sounds better for u than tuth. You are only 23. On days you plan on laying low I would use your IO double strength and you should be fine. Most days I use either ammo, IS or SOE. IS is the best IMHO. I have terrible anger when driving, but with IS on it does not bother me. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/18 "2008-05-04T14:33:44Z")
> [@](#): > > Yeah, i agreed with my bro jamesbonded, that’s really early of you to be up already & it’s a Sunday lady Tisha. Hmm,what happened 😕 I dont sleep much, besides my husband woke me up when he was leaving for the track. Generally I get up around 3 AM yep even on my day off LOL . I like the quiet time when everyone is still sleeping. Dont worry about day 5 Phat, we all have off days even when the mix we are wearing is a good one. Just keep at it and have fun with it. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/19 "2008-05-04T19:09:47Z")
Maybe for your next order you should try AMMO + Honesty x2 or x4. I find that AMMO works well with Asians as long as you don’t OD. Keep in mind that even though we (Asians) produce less -none, that doesn’t mean that Asian females will be able to tolerate such a raw amount of -none. 3 sprays can be a lot. If you want a lot of sprays of -none, try AMMO as it’s buffered really well and the Honesty will create a sense of closeness. I think you’d be able to get away with 3 sprays of AMMO a lot better than TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155/20 "2008-05-04T19:19:33Z")
Looks like that you are very perseverant, which is great in testing new stuffs. Hopefully you will be getting more and more good results very soon 🙂 You didn’t receive any results from using a ton of instant openness?? Not possible 😃!! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-5-of-my-testing-result-final-try-at-nightclubs/12155.md?page=2)