# Day 7

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 23, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-7/13014 "2008-05-23T16:10:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-7/13014/1 "2008-05-23T16:10:39Z")

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Ok, today was a bike day. I’m going to try and keep this short. I’m going for a subtle mixture to try and soften my image and not cause too many self-effects, since I’ll be operating a potentially risky motor vehicle- a motorcycle. And, how can I put this delicately- my jacket always smells stale. It probably has plenty of androstenone in it. I wash it once in a while but it still smells a bit washing it once or twice a month.

Today I wore WAGG and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) covered with lotion. I put on some gauntlet gloves to keep the wind off my arms. It’s warm here but these are special gloves with an Outlast lining and they wick away heat, my hands don’t perspire much until the temps hit 90+. I get on the bike (it’s a little 250 sportbike, not exactly testosterone laden but fun to ride- gets excellent mpg, I usually get about 60-75… my other rides are scooters) and go to the gas station, fill up, and go talk to the Pakistani guy working there. He’s reserved and I buy a few things.

I go next to the coffee shop, go to the bathroom. People are watching me a little anyways, as I stick out wearing a motorcycle jacket. I put on a spray of Instant Shine and Instant Honesty. I walk out to go order some coffee after a bit, letting the neroli die down and washing off my hands.

The guy behind the counter, whom I’ve seen before on several occasions, is _really_ glad to see me. I make eye contact with him, not too much. There seems to be a sense of trust I am sending him. I order some coffee and he’s very polite and upbeat the whole time. I go and sit down to drink the iced coffee.

A woman and her boyfriend are there ordering coffee. The woman comes to sit down right across from me on the sofa, and gives me a brief look, and I give her a little more than a glance, looking her in the eyes. Then 30 seconds later, she seems to realize _“oh, I have a boyfriend”_. She gets up and returns to her boyfriend, who is chatting with the counter jockey/barista and is oblivious. I get up to sit near the window, pretending to be disturbed that I might have shocked her. People seem calm around me. I get up to go sit outside and another blond woman eyes (early middle age, perhaps?) follow me on the way out, and I turn my head briefly and glance at her.

I go back in. Blond woman B seems interested in me. I go talk to the barista, maybe try for some small talk. “Hey, are you guys hiring?” “Oh, no… sorry. We just got some new hires… students.”. “Yeah, that’s OK, thanks anyways”. Typical around here, but I don’t press the issue. I probably look overqualified anyways, and I’m not desperate for work; this was just an attempt to solicit small talk. Blond Woman B watches me walk out, and I get on the motorcycle and go to the grocery store.

I get to the grocery and I can still smell a little of the Neroli, so it’s still there. I pick up some milk and a few things, go to the checkout. There’s a woman with dark brown hair there. I look at her, she looks at my eyes briefly. I can’t tell her ethnicity- Hispanic? Italian? Her accent is normal. I’m polite, but don’t say too much, but I do look at her alot. She seems beautiful, in a simple kind of way, and I’m noticing this alot. She like a beautiful, delicate wildflower. She looks shy, and doesn’t look back. She picks up my bag and hands it to me, making brief eye contact. She seems to be shaking slightly, or a bit nervous. Her hand is shaking lightly… what does this mean? Is she attracted to me? I don’t know, but it was an interesting experience, and I tell her "thank you and look into her eyes, but she looks away.. I felt bad I made her a bit nervous, but then again, maybe I gave her a thrill?

I ride home about 2 1/2 miles and I still notice some self effects from the instant shine and instant honesty- I’m getting more used to the self effects and can dismiss them easier. During the ride I notice some minor things, such as a feeling I’m riding especially gracefully and smooth, taking corners with ease- my speed and riding style are otherwise normal, but I don’t slow down in corners quite as much and rely more on counter-steering. The “flying” sensation is really enhanced and I’m in a groove. I get home and I still notice some self-effects, but again they are easier for me to “look through” now. Everything I do seems to be smooth and my awareness is enhanced, wheather it is blipping the throttle on downshifts or coasting down to a stop. I don’t really feel impared, rather I’m doing it _better._

I think it stood up to the wind test OK, not sure how it would fare going more than 3-4 miles, though. It definitely does get rid of the neroli, though.

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-7/13014/2 "2008-05-23T16:33:33Z")

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Very nice Report there daedelus 🙂 I really enjoyed it 😃 Just one question what strength are you using at that time for Instant Shine & [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)? 1x or 2x? I will rep you back on this report as the system stated that i rep too many people today.

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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-7/13014/3 "2008-05-23T16:41:03Z")

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1x. I didn’t want any blatant self-effects. I got great results just with 1x, and a To Go portion at that (20 percent weaker). Wow. The WAGG and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) probably helped, but I like Androtics stuff better. I have no clue what’s in WAGG and most people on Love Scent seem to ignore it- I think alot of people into pheros are not “lone wolves” physically like I am. I think WAGG must be beta-androstenol and maybe something else, maybe androsterone and maybe some other pheros.

Pheros can help you make alot of eye contact but it’s still important to know when and how to do it. It seems to add to the effect.

Oh, and Phat… not to be discourteous but you should edit your post and remove that quote. It’s OK not to quote the whole text.

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-7/13014/4 "2008-05-23T17:09:03Z")

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> [@Daedelus76](#):
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> 1x. I didn’t want any blatant self-effects. I got great results just with 1x, and a To Go portion at that (80 percent weaker). Wow. The WAGG and Instant Female Magic probably helped, but I like Androtics stuff better. I have no clue what’s in WAGG and most people on Love Scent seem to ignore it- I think alot of people into pheros are not “lone wolves” physically like I am. I think WAGG must be beta-androstenol and maybe something else, maybe androsterone and maybe some other pheros.
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> So you are using 1x plus a togo of Instant Female magic & it does that kind of results. Wow for me too 😃 Good for you there 🙂 I also think Wagg is not bad for a phero product.
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> Pheros can help you make alot of eye contact but it’s still important to know when and how to do it. It seems to add to the effect.
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> I agreed on that very much 🙂
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> Oh, and Phat… not to be discourteous but you should edit your post and remove that quote. It’s OK not to quote the whole text.

Ok not a problem daedelus, it’s ok my error there. I will change it now 🙂

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**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-7/13014/5 "2008-05-23T23:12:34Z")

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Part II- I go back to the mall. I’m wearing: nothing- I tried washing off from earlier and having a clean slate. I haven’t taken a shower since yesterday though, and I’m wearing yesterday’s clothes. Phero buildup, who knows. I definitely have a little BO, but not really all that much, I just smell stale a bit- cologne masks it.

I go in the door and I haven’t walked but about ten or twenty meters and I get a big hit from a woman, early middle aged maybe. She walks past me, then turns around and _definitely_ stares at me, looking down from head to toe. She just stands there and watches me for a few seconds, then walks away. I walk the full length of the mall, and this is the major hit I get.

I go and put on some MX173 to try out, with a burst of Instant Shine x1 and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). I go out and walk around. People are giving me alot of looks, not bad, but respectful. I go and buy some coffee. The clerk mistunderstands me, and says your name is “Deedlelouse?”, and I say “Daedelus”. My voice is strangely resonant with a touch of authority and I correct her mildly. It almost sounds like the typical melodramatic “voice of God” in pop culture. Not an angry god, but a god nontheless; I don’t growl at her, but I speak with authority, and she seems a little shocked (just a little, as if I were minor nobility). I walk around some more and I go to a few stores and engage in small chitchat. People are respectful ,but I’m starting to pick up on the vibe of this stuff. I’m not sure I like it. It’s authoritative and commanding. I put on some Instant Openness, but it doesn’t seem to help alot. I’m picking up an almost arrogant vibe from this stuff. I notice driving there that I start thinking “why won’t these pesky cars OBEY ME! I alone know what is best. I must go first”. I really think this stuff can be spooky because on a subconscious level, you actually expect obedience, even in situations where pheros can’t help you (like driving a car), only the rational side of your brain can step in and take over.

Then it hits me, this stuff is General Zod in a bottle (if you’ve seen Superman 2, you get the picture). I walk in front of a guy with his kid, without even thinking, and he stops dead cold and backs off. I feel kind of bad about it now, but at the time I thought I deserved to go first. I’m not sure I like the tone of this stuff too well… Hitler in a bottle? Just kidding. But it is a bit pushy.

I go to the grocery store and now the instant openness is starting to kick in a little. I feel a little more open and less pushy, but I am actually starting to have a wicked mona lisa smile for some reason- the first phero that’s really made me smile.

It’s wierd, I don’t feel “evil”, in fact I feel magnanimous, but my emotions are starting to be tinged with selfishness and not the give-and-take friendliness I have experienced with other pheros. With other pheros I feel good and positive because I am being friendly, with this stuff I feel “good” because “I DESERVE IT”. A certain self-righteousness looms around it.

I pick up some things and check out. There’s an older woman there, middle aged, maybe early 50’s. She’s rather plain looking, but just like this morning with the young lady, I’m attracted to her for some reason. Sure, age hasn’t been kindest to her, but it was obvious to me she is a faded beauty. She has a raspy voice, perhaps she smoked or smokes at one time. I make lots of eye contact, my voice has a bit of a resonant tone to it, like the typical melodramatic badguy (General Zod, again- I even look a bit the part). “Hello, how are you” comes out, but it comes out with a touch of royalty or VIP status. Her voice seems to start to take on a bit of a resonant, melodramatic tone as well. She’s very courteous, I’m very courteous, and I take my stuff, look her in the eye, and thank her and leave- I think I made an impression on her because most of the people there seemed to treat her rather coldly. I go home, take a shower, and this is the first mix where I haven’t had a huge “downtime” afterwards- I actually feel “better” after washing off this persona. I’m not sure this stuff is ready for “prime time”. It feels like it has an arrogant, pushy touch to it, especially towards men (but that could be the Instant Female Magic helping it out). I’ll have to try it again in the future just to be sure.

If A314 is like this stuff… I’m not sure I really would like it. If this is a classic man… hmm, maybe this isn’t for me- maybe I’m a closet metrosexual. MX173 is definitely a “far reaching” juice, it seems to affect alot of different things in a very subtle manner. I don’t like feeling I always must go first, I enjoy being gracious and helping other people, even at my own expense sometimes. I don’t consider that a flaw in myself. I also found MX173 a bit less approachable than other mixes I have used. I’ll test it again just to make sure this wasn’t a first time fluke, though.

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-7/13014/6 "2008-05-24T09:24:03Z")

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Another good report from you daedelus, really interesting & informative 🙂 Will keep note ofMX173 🙂 That 's one interesting product there. Reps for your report 🙂
