# Dear Mr. President...........

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [March 23, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351 "2009-03-23T21:16:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/1 "2009-03-23T21:16:41Z")

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Dear Mr. President,

Thank you for helping my neighbors with their mortgage payments. You know the one’s down the street who, in the good times, refinanced their house several times and went on vacations to wonderful places, bought SUV’s, ATV’s, RV"s, installed a pool, a big screen TV, two Wave Runners and a Harley.  
I was wondering, since I¢m paying my mortgage and theirs, could you arrange for me to borrow the Harley now and then?

Sincerely,

Richard Ford  
Queen Creek, AZ

P.S. They also need help with their credit cards, when do you want me to start making those payments?

P.P.S. I almost forgot - they didn’t file their income tax return this year. Should I go ahead and file for them or will you be appointing them to cabinet posts?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/2 "2009-03-23T23:56:08Z")

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I do recall a certain document declaring freedom from tyranny!

I also recall I have the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Tea Parties in Ohio, Militias forming, the next American Revolution is being discussed. Strange times indeed.

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/3 "2009-03-24T04:06:35Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> I also recall I have the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

I thought it Was Lorena Bobbitt, who said it was life, liberty and pursuit of half-peniss.

Times are sure trying, but then I am from Illinois, “Where our Governors make our license plates”  
Whatever happened to survival of the fittest?  
Again why I’m not a big fan of child safety programs. It interferes with natural selection. Without helmets and light socket covers most of these guys would probably have made it out of grade school.

Has anyone seen the movie Idiocracy? a Luke Wilson movie where everyone gets so dumb that no one is smart enough to know how to grow food.

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/4 "2009-03-24T07:01:15Z")

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> [@woofie2](#):
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> I thought it Was Lorena Bobbitt, who said it was life, liberty and pursuit of half-peniss.
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> Times are sure trying, but then I am from Illinois, “Where our Governors make our license plates”  
> Whatever happened to survival of the fittest?  
> Again why I’m not a big fan of child safety programs. It interferes with natural selection. Without helmets and light socket covers most of these guys would probably have made it out of grade school.
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> Has anyone seen the movie Idiocracy? a Luke Wilson movie where everyone gets so dumb that no one is smart enough to know how to grow food.

Lazyness & ignorance has neutered america…

Ever see 300? Remember how bad ass the spartans were? Remember the part in the beginning where every bad newborn was weeded out of their gene pool? Remember their strict code of honor & tradition?

@Steve: what allowed us to put those documents into effect? did it just happen by itself? hint: The british government began taxing the poo out of america and what happened? it’s kinda like… omg… what’s happening now! what a coincidence.

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/5 "2009-03-25T20:30:48Z")

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> [@Wolfy](#):
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> I thought it Was Lorena Bobbitt, who said it was life, liberty and pursuit of half-peniss.
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> Times are sure trying, but then I am from Illinois, “Where our Governors make our license plates”  
> Whatever happened to survival of the fittest?  
> Again why I’m not a big fan of child safety programs. It interferes with natural selection. Without helmets and light socket covers most of these guys would probably have made it out of grade school.
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> Has anyone seen the movie Idiocracy? a Luke Wilson movie where everyone gets so dumb that no one is smart enough to know how to grow food.

It’s got electrolytes!!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/6 "2009-03-27T19:18:44Z")

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[States rebel against Washington | csmonitor.com](http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0327/p02s01-usgn.html)

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/7 "2009-03-29T17:05:42Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> [States rebel against Washington | csmonitor.com](http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0327/p02s01-usgn.html)

Yes, I have heard militias were forming.

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/8 "2009-03-29T19:05:19Z")

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> [@Wolfy](#):
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> Yes, I have heard militias were forming.

states already kinda have a militia, e.g. the texas national guard, idaho national guard, oregon national guard, etc. or at least this used to be the case. its up to the state’s people to decide when to use them as one.

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**Author:** ![67chevelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/898d66/32.png) [@67chevelle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/67chevelle)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/9 "2009-03-29T20:32:34Z")

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The scary thing is this is the type of thinking that brought Lenin and Hitler to power. You have to remember that the Russians and Germans didn’t just wake up one morning and get the urge to kill all the rich people and Jews. It all started with trying to make things equal (what PC terms welth redistibution).

People should be reading their history or we are going to see 1918-1945 the remix.

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/10 "2009-03-29T20:56:21Z")

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> [@67chevelle](#):
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> The scary thing is this is the type of thinking that brought Lenin and Hitler to power. You have to remember that the Russians and Germans didn’t just wake up one morning and get the urge to kill all the rich people and Jews. It all started with trying to make things equal (what PC terms welth redistibution).
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> People should be reading their history or we are going to see 1918-1945 the remix.

I agree with Chevelle here, propaganda and “bright side thinking” can be terrible tools for destruction and control of an entire country. Ever see the hundreds of thousands of German soldiers, civilians, and children heiling Hitler at his parades and speeches? Those people thought, “Wow, this guy is going to change our lives, he is going to make everything better.” It’s too bad they didn’t see the death and annihilation that would be necessary to get these results…

EDIT: Come to think of it…This could be frighteningly similar to what happened to end the Great Depression.

We are entering a so called recession, or perhaps depression. Korea is threatening us yet we don’t believe they are serious enough for us to “protect ourselves”. Surely Obama realizes a full scale war would likely end our ‘recession’ and he would be known as a great president just as Roosevelt was. It’s scary, what one man could do, for his own immortality and fame.

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/11 "2009-03-30T00:17:57Z")

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> [@pherophreak](#):
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> Surely Obama realizes a full scale war would likely end our ‘recession’ and he would be known as a great president just as Roosevelt was. It’s scary, what one man could do, for his own immortality and fame.

Entering in a war or two for immortality and fame didn’t exactly work for Bush, did it?

North Korea is not directly threatening us, and absolutely no one in our government has said “they are not a serious enough threat for us to protect ourselves”. In fact, if you read the news about this, they say that if their launch results in an aberrant missile, eg. heading toward Hawaii or the continental US, it **will** be shot down.

Not that North Korea has nothing to fear from the US, but they have a _ **much more immediate** _ fear from China, were they to begin to arm themselves nuclearly. Do you think China would allow a rogue nation headed by psychotic deposit to have nukes in their backyard? Think about how quickly China would and could descend on that flyspeck and it will make your head spin.

As for comparing the current US President, who has been in office for a total of 68 days, to Hitler is manipulative hyperbole to the extreme. Give me a clear example of a group of people he has directly blamed for the current state of this country, and how he is beginning supression of them, please.

I don’t agree with everything the government is doing to try to stave off complete economic collapse of _the planet_ (which I think is something most people forget: it’s not just us the US government is trying to save, here), but I think they are doing their best with what they have to work with. Perhaps the economists here would like to post their theories on how to keep the world afloat with minimal government intervention?

Y’all are reminding me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/esDcBwNpy1g?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/12 "2009-03-30T00:29:10Z")

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Hahaha! That clip cracked me up in a way that i cannot even begin to describe. Especially the fact that the military guy REFUSED to go with any of the scenarios, just saying “that’ll never happen.”

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/13 "2009-03-30T00:32:16Z")

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> [@Mr.Feel\_Good](#):
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> Hahaha! That clip cracked me up in a way that i cannot even begin to describe. Especially the fact that the military guy REFUSED to go with any of the scenarios, just saying “that’ll never happen.”

Haha yes!

Comedy gold.

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/14 "2009-03-30T01:03:48Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> _ **Haha yes! Comedy gold.** _

Platinum.

I love ya, girl. Reps. 😉

Bella

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**Author:** ![chads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@chads](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chads)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/15 "2009-03-30T03:07:40Z")

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> [@ariadne](#):
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> Give me a clear example of a group of people he has directly blamed for the current state of this country, and how he is beginning supression of them, please.

AIG executives. All executives he is threatening with salary caps,actually. I agree Hitler comparisons are thrown around far too much (Bush got them too).

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**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/16 "2009-03-30T03:20:02Z")

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> [@chads](#):
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> AIG executives. All executives he is threatening with salary caps,actually. I agree Hitler comparisons are thrown around far too much (Bush got them too).

So, do you have a quote by Obama where he says that the world’s economic problems are AIG executives’ fault?

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 11:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/17 "2009-03-30T11:04:33Z")

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Every political leader knows that a war is excellent for one’s ratings.  
Although it didn’t work for Bush, it did work for Margaret Thatcher when the Argentinians dared to invade a flyspeck on the atlas called the Falkland Islands in 1982. She was staring down the barrel of defeat at the next election. Within days a full Naval Taskforce was enroute, Marines, Paratroopers etc (the SAS had already landed!), Air Force were bombing the runway at Port Stanley airport ( and missing!). National outrage was played up in the press, Country got behind the war and she was safely in power for the next 6 years!

Obama may well turn out to be the greatest leader that the world has ever seen, he may turn out to be another Nixon. At the end of the day, he is a politician, if you look up the word in the dictionary, it is described as cheating lying bastard who will sell their granny for a few votes 😉

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 11:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/18 "2009-03-30T11:36:08Z")

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I need a _hopey changitude_ injection, quick!

Diane

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/19 "2009-03-30T20:16:40Z")

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[washingtonpost.com](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/30/AR2009033001239.html?wprss=rss_business)

Obama clearly blames this on the CEO’s. Obama = Fascist dick tator

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dear-mr-president/27351/20 "2009-03-30T21:18:49Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> [washingtonpost.com](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/30/AR2009033001239.html?wprss=rss_business)
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> Obama clearly blames this on the CEO’s. Obama = Fascist dick tator

The auto industry is it’s own mess, the Unions are most of their undoing. the auto industry tried several times to cut wages, and reduce the bloat in their company, the problem is the unions were keeping them at their existing contracts so they could not be flexible enough to keep up with the smaller faster European or Asian car makers.

As for the banks and their subprime loan issues, they were result of government regulation problems, the banks did not want to loan to the markets that they did, but because of federal funding and insurance they were forced to make a certain percentage of the higher “risk” loans that they did not want to make.

Government regulations are a problem, regulate something to make it equal for all but deregulate to encourage growth and development. Look at the phone companies, when they regulated and broke down bell all homes ere connected to a phone line, but development and improvements in the system were almost halted. now as the phone companies have been regulated, they are almost stagnate in their growth.

The same thing is going on in our power industry, a company cannot upgrade one portion of their facility without meeting 100% of the current regulations for emissions and operations guidelines. so upgrading a boiler or turbine to keep a power plant operating means a 600 million dollar scrubber system has to be installed when putting in a 100 million dollar power turbine generator would increase efficiency of the plant by 30-40% with less pollution than it was currently making.

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