# Decided not to post Day 8 & 9 due to very ugly results...... **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [May 9, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402 "2008-05-09T22:32:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/1 "2008-05-09T22:32:14Z")
Dear to all my fellow Phero friends, buddies & others here in this forum, i have decided not to post my Day 8 & 9 due to some horrible & ugly results that i experienced šŸ˜® & i find both unsuitable for this forum. Both are very painful experiences to me which now causes me to have trouble sleeping ā˜¹ And to make it more worst my best friend got the nerve to inform me by sms that he can laid or get some hot ass chick grinding to him with no pheros at all which is a big slap & a kick at my face for me šŸ˜® I know he is telling the truth as a girl really grind at him & he even give some bits of what happened during that time just to see my reaction. He know iā€™m wearing pheros from Androtics. To think he will do that to me ā˜¹ But now with him doing that to me, iā€™m still with my last ounce of confidence am determined to get more pheros to my arsenal in my second order & this time all will be full strength & after i have my second order i give it my best effort to it šŸ™‚ For some who saw this thread, they will think who cares itā€™s just a dude having a bad day with his pheros or something like that but those who know me will understand me better here. I treat the people here especially my friends & buddies with respect & politeness that they truly deserved šŸ™‚ All of you guys & ladies are nice & good people. Thank you for reading & have a nice day šŸ™‚ Feel free to leave any comments or PM me. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/2 "2008-05-09T22:57:08Z")
Hi Phat, Everybody have ups and downs. Remember, problem is a gift. It is a gift from God to make you a better person. Instead being let down or upset by the comment of your friend, treat that as a motivation to succeed. You are upset with his comment. Are you upset with the result of day 8 & 9 ? ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/3 "2008-05-09T23:00:03Z")
> [@jamesbonded](#): > > Hi Phat, > Everybody have ups and downs. > > Remember, problem is a gift. It is a gift from God to make you a better person. > > Instead being let down or upset by the comment of your friend, treat that as a motivation to succeed. > > You are upset with his comment. Are you upset with the result of day 8 & 9 ? Yes bro very upset ā˜¹ But i understand what you mean there well i got to test my patience to the limit here. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/4 "2008-05-09T23:14:37Z")
This may sound weird, but youā€™re probably undergoing an alchemical process called calcination. _The substance is burned until nothing remains but ashes_. Symptoms: Anxiety, Loss, fear of loss. Transmutation: Confidence. > [@](#): > > The book of Job is a story of calcination. It begins when Satan challenges God to a bet. He proposes to test Jobā€™s character by affliction him with one terrible misfortune after another. In accepting this sick wager, God comes off looking almost as bad as Satan. The character of Satan is actually Jobā€™s own spirit. From the perspective of a soul undergoing calcination, both God and the spirit appear perverse. The spirit is an arsonist and God is supplying it with matches. > > The hero of the book of Job loses everything: wife, children, business, home, friends, health. By the end of his calcination, heā€™s lying half naked on the ground, every inch of him covered in painful boils. You would think he had already experience every conceivable form of human suffering, but at that point yet another affliction awaits him: the misguided ministrations of his ā€œcomfortersā€. It wouldnā€™t be so bad if theyā€™d just agree, ā€œWow, Job, your life really sucks!ā€ and leave it at that. Instead they try to help him figure out why his life sucks. ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/5 "2008-05-09T23:59:00Z")
Sorry you had such a terrible experience. I personally think your friend is an ass for being so rude to you. He may be able to get a girl to grind against him but I canā€™t see him finding & keeping one as a life partner with that much ugliness inside. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/6 "2008-05-10T00:49:22Z")
Im sorry you had a bad day Phat, Was it just your friends reaction or was it something that happened with the mones. I know you want to share your excitement about mones with your friend but if I were you I would just tell him you gave up on them and go about your day using them if thats what you enjoy doing. Some people just are not open to things they dont understand. Its not that you friend is trying to hurt you, he probably thinks he is doing you a favor. Its just his lack of knowledge on the subject that causes him to come off as mean. Hang in there and know that all of us have bad days. Yes even lady tisha. In the end it just makes us stronger better individuals. šŸ˜‰ Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/7 "2008-05-10T00:58:08Z")
Hey PhatSounds! Itā€™s too bad day 8 and day 9 didnā€™t go so well. I was hoping youā€™d come back with an awesome report after your successes in most recent days. I understand if the details of the nights are difficult for you to share, but Iā€™m sure the entire army of pherousers would be willing to dissect the two nights and their results and offer their respective suggestions. Disregard your friends comments (if you could call him a ā€˜friendā€™) and just focus on your own path. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/8 "2008-05-10T01:00:01Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > This may sound weird, but youā€™re probably undergoing an alchemical process called calcination. _The substance is burned until nothing remains but ashes_. Symptoms: Anxiety, Loss, fear of loss. Transmutation: Confidence. True Eldros, you are right in what you say there. Iā€™m suffering from that ā€œcalcinationā€ unfortunately & suffering badly now. > [@inkling](#): > > Sorry you had such a terrible experience. I personally think your friend is an ass for being so rude to you. He may be able to get a girl to grind against him but I canā€™t see him finding & keeping one as a life partner with that much ugliness inside. Well i guess itā€™s just my luck to have a terrible experience inkling, i did not expect that from him. He is one of my best friends & his character was not be like that before. Hmm, well i may agree with you that he wonā€™t find & keep a grinding girl as his life partner with that much ugliness & i might add here egoiness too but he was successful there in making me suffer. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/9 "2008-05-10T01:15:23Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Im sorry you had a bad day Phat, Was it just your friends reaction or was it something that happened with the pheromones. > > I know you want to share your excitement about pheromones with your friend but if I were you I would just tell him you gave up on them and go about your day using them if thats what you enjoy doing. Some people just are not open to things they dont understand. Its not that you friend is trying to hurt you, he probably thinks he is doing you a favor. Its just his lack of knowledge on the subject that causes him to come off as mean. > > Hang in there and know that all of us have bad days. Yes even lady tisha. In the end it just makes us stronger better individuals. šŸ˜‰ > > Tisha Well Lady Tisha, i really donā€™t know. If he is one of my usual friend, i donā€™t mind but he is one of my closest best friend. Thanks for your advice there but i think he did that to hurt me as he used to believe in Pheros before but not now by seeing his change of character there. I will still keep on going although this incident hit me badly on my terrible Day 8 & 9 & that friend of mine. I bet heā€™s enjoying seeing me suffer right now. > [@Phya](#): > > Hey PhatSounds! Itā€™s too bad day 8 and day 9 didnā€™t go so well. I was hoping youā€™d come back with an awesome report after your successes in most recent days. I understand if the details of the nights are difficult for you to share, but Iā€™m sure the entire army of pherousers would be willing to dissect the two nights and their results and offer their respective suggestions. > > Disregard your friends comments (if you could call him a ā€˜friendā€™) and just focus on your own path. Thanks Phya for what you have say there. Itā€™s like people like you & the others that make me feel i must keep on trying & donā€™t give up. For Day 8 & 9 i really canā€™t post them unfortunately. Itā€™s just so ridiculously bad. Yes if he is one of my usual friends, i will disregard him for his comment but this is my closest best friend Phya. And he did that to me to make me suffer well i will still focus on keep on going. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/10 "2008-05-10T01:34:24Z")
Just some info here, i think my best friend might be influenced by his friends to make him do it. P.S. I will be starting a thread on [MX200](https://a314.com/product/mx200/) & MX201 soon so feel free to check it & give your opinion. Thanks šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/11 "2008-05-10T03:47:05Z")
What [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) were you wearing phatsounds? Could it possibly have been the pheromones that either, put him in a foul mood or made him feel challenged for dominance? ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/12 "2008-05-10T04:06:18Z")
> [@inkling](#): > > What pheromones were you wearing phatsounds? Could it possibly have been the pheromones that either, put him in a foul mood or made him feel challenged for dominance? Well if you are asking what pheromones iā€™m wearing inkling, ok iā€™m wearing A314,TUTH & [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) together but my best friend is not with me at that time just to let you know. So for your questions, i canā€™t answered them. As i say in my thread, he sent me a sms to my mobile so how could he be with me at that time? ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/13 "2008-05-10T04:14:20Z")
Oops sorry I did read that earlier today. I was just hoping and looking for a reason for such a close friend to be so callous to you. If you had worn a314 & turn up the heat around him recently do you think it might have caused a grudge? Still looking for a reason. I guess sometimes there just isnā€™t an explanation to why people are hateful. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/14 "2008-05-10T04:31:55Z")
> [@inkling](#): > > Oops sorry I did read that earlier today. I was just hoping and looking for a reason for such a close friend to be so callous to you. > > If you had worn A314 & turn up the heat around him recently do you think it might have caused a grudge? Still looking for a reason. I guess sometimes there just isnā€™t an explanation to why people are hateful. Itā€™s ok inkling šŸ™‚ Iā€™m also looking for a reason why he did that to me. As for your question there, yes you could be right šŸ™‚ Hmm, i agree sometimes there isnā€™t any explaination why people are hateful but one thing i did noticed is that my best friend character changes. ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/15 "2008-05-10T05:01:53Z")
I think that could be the reason. He may be feeling threatened by your new pheromone signature. You arenā€™t wearing A314 & turn up the heat at the same time are you? Youā€™re young and have a lot your own natural pheromones right now, perhaps it is too much and you need to use less of the androstenone products and more of the feel good socials like instant shine, openness and honesty. Please try using just one drop of A314 paired with openness for a report. I think your friend will feel less threatened and you might be able to recover your friendship if that is what you want. There is also build-up to consider, if youā€™re applying all of these androstenone products make sure to shower well or you might not get all the pheromones off and are wearing more than even you are aware of. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/16 "2008-05-10T05:46:52Z")
There are days when you canā€™t get what you wish.. give it enough time, donā€™t give up. The right person will come along and things will proceed naturally. With the help of pheromones too! Take courage. ---
**Author:** ![deriw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@deriw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deriw)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/17 "2008-05-10T06:03:40Z")
Agreed with Phoenix, sometimes, you canā€™t always get what you wantā€¦ ..and well, if your best friend takes a stab on you - shame on him. he was supposed to be your BEST friend, meaning he doesnā€™t turn on you like an asshole (even under phero influence or not). Oh, so he got some **one** to grind on him. Big deal - youā€™ll get MORE THAN HIM eventually, as you build up your self-portrayal and self-confidence even further with the pheros, heh. Come on, donā€™t be jealous now - the fact that you have like SO much advice says that you canā€™t go wrong! ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/18 "2008-05-10T07:06:52Z")
The problem with that Deriw is that phero influence can make a difference in behavior and sometimes it is not always for the good. I myself have been mean and in a bad temper due to something I applied when first using pheromones. Iā€™ve read phatsounds other reports and see advice to use less. Now weā€™re seeing the result of not using less. Try it for yourself and see, too much A314 and or turn up the heat can lead to several different effects. Having a close male friend form a grudge and be cruel is a logic possibility, so is having such a bad experience that you donā€™t want to post about it. Sorry phatsounds, donā€™t want to hurt your feelings but I do want you to use your pheromones more effectively. At your age anything androstenone less is more. You can spray on as much instant openness as you want but need to ease up greatly on A314 and turn up the heat to see positive results. Please test 1 small drop A314 with 4 sprays instant openness. ---
**Author:** ![deriw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@deriw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deriw)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/19 "2008-05-10T07:26:49Z")
inkling.. come to think of it, yes yes. now that sounds familiarā€¦ when i first mixed 1 spray of instant jerk with 2 drops of A314ā€¦ it was very, very bad. i had a horribly bad temper for like.. 2-3 days, and pissed off quite a few people. silly me. my first order way back had been IJ + A314 + IO. and i liked the scent of IJ, honestly. hahaha! PhatSounds: actually, i think iā€™m around your age. how old are you again? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402/20 "2008-05-10T08:24:03Z")
I agree that larger doses of A314 and TUTH together might lead to conscious/unconscious assertions of dominance. If you have Shine and Honesty, this is a good time to use them, although you need to be careful because with Honesty, the two of you might get deeper into a conversations about pheromones, or how he can get girls to grind on him, or what you thought about how he acted, etcā€¦ An old friend of mine would act like a fool anytime there was a remote pretty girl around us/with us. It got really annoying, he always felt the need to be the ā€˜big manā€™ and show us all how much of a man he was. Some guys behave that way when they feel insecure about their dominance. I could easily see how someone might have reacted to a lot of a314 + tuth in a negative, aggressive manner. The pherosig is kinda saying, Hey! PhatSounds the MAN is here! Ladies, get ready, because PS is coming for ya! And your friend was kinda like, hey, wait, look I can get ladies too. Iā€™m a dominant male, look how much attention I can get from the ladies. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/decided-not-to-post-day-8-9-due-to-very-ugly-results/12402.md?page=2)