# Definite proof that TAA = Instant Shine :D? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 7, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494 "2011-02-07T01:32:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/1 "2011-02-07T01:32:32Z")
Well.. I decided to do a little test. I would have my brother, that LOVES ISHINE and always gets the “happy confident self-effects” from it, spray himself with 30 mcg of TAA. He didn’t know what “[Molecule A](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/)” (the label of the bottle) stands for. The TAA I ordered is in Akuto, so it’s not possible that he could of distinguished the smell. 10 minutes later, he tells me “I feel like you put ISHINE in that.” He said that he was smiling spontaneously… I was like LOOOOOOOOOL!!! 😃 On a side note, does that mean that 30 mcg of TAA = ~3-4x ISHINE? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/2 "2011-02-07T01:35:38Z")
> [@PheroJack](#): > > Well.. I decided to do a little test. > > I would have my brother, that LOVES ISHINE and always gets the “happy confident self-effects” from it, spray himself with 30 mcg of TAA. > > He didn’t know what “Molecule A” (the label of the bottle) stands for. The TAA I ordered is in Akuto, so it’s not possible that he could of distinguished the smell. > > 10 minutes later, he tells me “I feel like you put ISHINE in that.” He said that he was smiling spontaneously… I was like LOOOOOOOOOL!!! 😃 > > Does that mean that 30 mcg of TAA = ~3-4x ISHINE? Where have you been? It’s been mostly common knowledge that the main ingredient in [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is TAA. Also at 15mcg/spray of normal shine, which majority of the molecules in there being TAA, you do the math. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/3 "2011-02-07T01:47:37Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Where have you been? > > It’s been mostly common knowledge that the main ingredient in Instant Shine is TAA. > > Also at 15mcg/spray of normal shine, which majority of the molecules in there being TAA, you do the math. I know… I think it’s just cool to eliminate that “placebo” argument when it comes to self-effects 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/4 "2011-02-07T02:21:22Z")
> [@PheroJack](#): > > I know… I think it’s just cool to eliminate that “placebo” argument when it comes to self-effects 😉 How does this eliminate the “placeboe” effect? If your brother likes shine and taa is the main ingredient in shine, I don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/5 "2011-02-07T02:25:23Z")
> [@Blacky\_Chan](#): > > How does this eliminate the “placeboe” effect? If your brother likes shine and taa is the main ingredient in shine, I don’t get it. _shrugs_ He’s interested in seeing how straight TAA works without any of the steering molecules in IS? Granted I just pulled that out of my ass, just a guess though. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/6 "2011-02-07T03:25:57Z")
> [@Blacky\_Chan](#): > > How does this eliminate the “placeboe” effect? If your brother likes shine and taa is the main ingredient in shine, I don’t get it. I mean some people say that since people are “expecting” to be happy and confident off ISHINE, then they are. When it comes to self-effects, some users question if the self-effects are actually directly from the molecules or from a “placebo” effect on the mind (expecting to feel this way). My brother, not knowing the scent or the molecule name, noticed the same effects as he did with ISHINE. He didn’t know it was IS’s main molecule but he still got the same self-effects. Hope yall get my point. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/7 "2011-02-07T03:41:27Z")
Straight TAA hits me harder than Shine for whatever reason, but it lasts like an hour than the effects are gone, not just on me but those around me. At least with shine I get a good 3 hours to work with. Sort of off topic but yeah. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/8 "2011-02-07T03:48:34Z")
Maidenfan01, that is a very good point to mention actually! I wonder what are those “steering molecules” 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![ioncell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ioncell/32/1844_2.png) [@ioncell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ioncell)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/9 "2011-02-07T04:08:26Z")
> [@PheroJack](#): > > Maidenfan01, that is a very good point to mention actually! I wonder what are those “steering molecules” 🙄 I think they are same but carrier is different 🙂 Anyway only the one who batched it knows really ---
**Author:** ![jnoel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jnoel/32/650_2.png) [@jnoel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jnoel)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/10 "2011-02-07T04:55:48Z")
i feel the same as maiden fan. i like that its a super instant shine, but it wears off in about half the time for me i also crash after using TAA as opposed to instant shine. i feel really sleepy within 2-3 hrs even if i had a full nights sleep ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/definite-proof-that-taa-instant-shine-d/47494/11 "2011-02-07T06:25:59Z")
Ishine has 3 human [pheromones](https://a314.com/) in it not just TAA. TAA is the primary. If you buy 1X 2X 4X or 8X the formula is exactly the same its the concentration that is different. The concentration doesn’t make the effect last longer. Straight TAA is not as intense as Ishine for me. Its the happy without the pull and charisma. I agree with Maidenfan the effect seems to not be a long unless I use TAA oil. Tisha