# Deminishing potency of A314? **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [October 28, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056 "2011-10-28T18:42:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/1 "2011-10-28T18:42:31Z")
I initially had that slight concern with my A314 thinking that I’ve become accustomed to the self effects of A314. I’m going to be ordering another bottle of A314 in a little while and wanted to get some feedback from you. What has been your experiences? Here are the threads that mention it. > [@Question about A314 and diminishing potency](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/question-about-a314-and-diminishing-potency/52356): > > I have personally gone through about 4 bottles of A314 in a year, just started #4 the other day. What I have noticed is that when I get down to the bottom of a bottle, while there is still definitely plenty of drops left to use, maybe 10 or so, the potency of the product is just not the same, nor is the potency of the scent. I love the smell of A314, I love how it makes me smell, but I noticed that when I’m finishing up on a bottle, that it just isn’t the same. I haven’t been wearing A314 as … > [@Commercial line, MX and P's mixed to create...CHAOS!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/commercial-line-mx-and-ps-mixed-to-create-chaos/43111/79): > > Well, after my MX401 testing, I was craving my A314, Alpha vibes…:slight\_smile: So, today I had started with the base of A314 and decided to add a couple of P’s. This is what I tried. 3D x A314 - 1 to adam’s apple, one behind each ear. 10mu x P106 - Forearm right 20mu x P111 - Forearm left Burberry cover cologne to forearms after P’s drydown. For the A314, I think I’m getting comfortable with the A314 vibe. I don’t get the same rush as when I first started out with A314. Also, I noticed… I’d appreciate any input! 🙂 . ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/2 "2011-10-28T20:19:02Z")
That’s one of the reasons I try to take at least one day a week off the A314. Not noticed any diminution yet myself - Only new nuances and continued benefits. ---
**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/3 "2011-10-29T00:50:28Z")
good question, i rarely take it off unless im trying on mixes and putatives, from experience, the longer you wear A314, the more you become A314. Alpha, ceo and respect. On-going 6 months, people see me as a high flyer. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/4 "2011-12-30T20:16:36Z")
I just got my order of A314 oil and will be comparing it with the one that is almost done… We shall see what results… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/5 "2011-12-30T21:20:03Z")
Its possible that its effects just feel more natural to you. The more you wear product and get used to its vibe, the more you sort of feel that its natural. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/6 "2011-12-30T21:25:12Z")
I´m using A314 since nearly 5 years now … i´ve seen some changes with the different versions … some shifting in the self effects … more from .. get outta my way .. I´m the boss to .. don´t even think about it … just do it .o.k. but less potency … not really … no need to be worried 1Alpha 😉 **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![JAYCEE1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JAYCEE1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JAYCEE1)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/7 "2012-01-01T01:25:16Z")
A314 still seems just as potent to me and 3d is still my work dose. I don’t like the last couple of bottles that I’ve tried that have the “nutty” odor. I liked the previous scent pack much better. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/8 "2012-01-02T15:41:55Z")
> [@JAYCEE1](#): > > A314 still seems just as potent to me and 3d is still my work dose. > > I don’t like the last couple of bottles that I’ve tried that have the “nutty” odor. I liked the previous scent pack much better. Because the pack contains natural oils it could change with seasons and just by batch. We can’t really control the extracts and essences we get, although I’ve passed on the feedback to see what we _can_ do. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/9 "2012-01-03T07:15:10Z")
> [@JAYCEE1](#): > > A314 still seems just as potent to me and 3d is still my work dose. > > I don’t like the last couple of bottles that I’ve tried that have the “nutty” odor. I liked the previous scent pack much better. Lol, thanks for that info about the “nutty” odor, especially since I was considering ordering another bottle. Now (thanks to you!!), I think I shall hold off a bit til it smells normal again, because I love, love, love that original A314 smell, and it works fabulously with my body chemistry! ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/10 "2012-01-03T18:35:30Z")
I have them both now… and have done a smell test… I don’t find the ‘new’ bottle of A314 has a type of nutty scent. I do find it a bit more of a smell of alcohol, which is peculiar as it is oil, lol. It does have a bit of a spicy, musk scent. The ‘older’ bottle has more of a sweet musky scent. No perceived alcohol at all. Not sure if you have a ‘nutty’ scent after application??? I’m just opening up the 10 ml bottle and sniffing. As to it’s ‘potency’, I cannot tell a difference… both seem to continue to give me the standard alpha signal that I’ve grown to expect from A314… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/11 "2012-01-06T06:48:09Z")
Rev 29 seems more astringent to me than Rev 23, but I don’t notice a nutty flavor. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/12 "2012-01-06T19:48:02Z")
Iv got to admit I hate the new smell of rev29, rev23 was a so much more refined classy smell, the new one smells quite harsh and chemically to my nose, as for effects they are very much the same. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/13 "2012-01-06T20:32:51Z")
Exactly! It does come out a bit more ‘chemically’. I was also told by my LTR that I smell a bit rancid… ☹ I’ll have to verify if that was the new A314, which I applied after a shower, or maybe I got some A1 on me without noticing? I was handling the bottles, moving things around and checking inventory. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/14 "2012-01-06T23:26:44Z")
When you take a day or longer off a314, do you feel the same confidence (or effects) as with a314? If yes, you might no longer need it and using it is now a waste of mones. Congrats. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/deminishing-potency-of-a314/53056/15 "2012-01-07T03:32:06Z")
I’m not yet there, Bolkie, but I went without A314 for about a month and it was only recently that I noticed that I had a little less confidence than with A314. I did wear some A314 today and I can see where the nutty flavor comes from, but to me it smells astringent. I know that the natural oils could have changed etc… but I don’t know if it is in fact a difference in oils or a difference in [pheromones](https://a314.com/). I could honestly see it being either or both. I’ve read that the smell of A314 isn’t as much Akuto as it is the mones, so I suspect that a slightly different formulation is used.