# Detail : What is the difference (in effect) between A314 and Instant Shine ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 28, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296 "2007-08-28T16:53:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/1 "2007-08-28T16:53:45Z")
Everything is in the thread title ! What is the difference in the effects one can get ? (even better if explained fromm the difference in the pheros in each one) Just asking… 🙂 magicJ ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/2 "2007-08-28T21:42:13Z")
What I mean is that with Shine the wearer seems to have an aura and feel good and make people feel good and admire him. With A314 there s the James Bond effect, the admiration from people feeling good as well… so what exacty is the difference in a more precise way ? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/3 "2007-08-28T23:25:04Z")
Someone only read ONE thread. Keep reading. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/4 "2007-09-17T17:56:42Z")
From what I understand a314 may create a “James Bond” “Respect” type vibe, but not necessarily a “feel good” vibe. If anything it might create an “intimidation” vibe. I’ve noticed it seems to create a “leader” vibe, as sometimes when I’ve worn it I will turn around to find everyone following me wherever I’m going… Almost felt like a momma duck… Shine is reported to create the “feel good” type vibe. I recall some recommend using the two together for balance. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/5 "2007-09-17T22:38:57Z")
Instant shine… People may be thinking along the lines of \*Gee I feel good today \*\*or \*_Everytime I am around this person I feel so happy._ If the person already knows you they still may think the above. A314… People may be thinking along the lines of _Wow that guy is awesume_ or \*\*_Hmm now there is a interesting looking hot guy. ( twirl hair smile twirl smile) LOL_ If they already know you they will probably just feel your coming into your own. They will feel more comfortable with you be more curious because they are thinking “hey Magic is looking pretty good lately”. So its not a direct feel goods feeling but more of a feel good feeling caused by the other feelings they have. As GQ said there will be those who also feel a little intimidated depending on there personality. So how you act when you wear it counts alot. When girls smile at you smile back. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/6 "2007-09-18T01:00:09Z")
Okay, I’ve been using A314 for about 9 months, 3 or 4 times weekly. I’m on my 2nd bottle of Shine, so about 3 months on that one. First, it’s pretty much an apples and meat comparison. About the only thing they have in common is the company of origin and the fact they’re both mones. Shine is a finishing product. Sorta a frosting on the cake thing. Its effects are too subtle–at least in my experience–to used as a standalone most of the time. It helps impart a gentle positive and uplifting vibe and is rather understated. I find it best used to offset or buffer stronger mones such as androstenone and androsterone. A314 is a masculine product of a stronger flavor. Will it make you feel and appear as James Bond? Maybe if you’re Sean Connery! For most guys it helps impart an air of authority and strength, sorta a peaceful alpha image. Another way to look at it is makes you appear fatherly, and I mean that in a positive sense as in head of household, provider, etc. I find it perfect for work as it enhances my authority without coming off as an overbearing, bossy arse. I’ve not found it very sexual, although it horns right up with a few dashes of androstenone (NPA, TE or TUTH). Incidentally, Shine and A314 make a good work combo. The only gotcha is an air of authority can be confusing coupled with a wimpy persona or even get you in trouble with coworkers if you have no real authority but act like you do. So use it sparingly until you get the lay of the land. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/7 "2007-09-18T05:31:30Z")
Shine is subtle? Tater can get women playing touchy-feely with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) any day of the week, and even some questionable men! Subtle? My problem with Shine is that its not reliable for me. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/8 "2007-09-18T06:48:46Z")
Everyone is different although many report Shine to be subtle, some say it does nothing while some see rainbows and choirs of angels on high. Whatever, it’s subtle for me. However I find it’s raining women when Gegogi wears PheroProof. Might not work for you. Nevertheless you should give yourself more credit. Any social or romanitic success one enjoys is 97% you and 3% mones. Otherwise you could spray a fence post and watch homo sapiens sapiens rub themselves raw 'n red. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/9 "2007-09-18T09:58:04Z")
If you think about it, it really does make sense that they will work a little different on different people. I think the outcome greatly depends on what mones you make naturally. This is the tough thing about mones, you really need to be willing to test out different products before you find the one that works best for you. Also I wonder, as we get older our natural mone sig’s can change so a mix that worked great when you first started using may change and not work so well a few years later. Gegogi you have been using them a long time. Have you noticed anything like that? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/10 "2007-09-18T22:19:02Z")
I’d have to say that the mentality of the other ppl, your location, & time of day also play a large part of how well your pheros work. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/11 "2007-09-18T22:30:54Z")
> [@changazn](#): > > I’d have to say that the mentality of the other ppl, your location, & time of day also play a large part of how well your pheros work. Yes true I agree with that as well. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2007, 8:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/detail-what-is-the-difference-in-effect-between-a314-and-instant-shine/5296/12 "2007-09-19T08:18:27Z")
> [@](#): > > Tisha writes, “Also I wonder, as we get older our natural pheromone sig’s can change so a mix that worked great when you first started using may change and not work so well a few years later. Gegogi you have been using them a long time. Have you noticed anything like that?” I’m, cringe, middle aged and probably haven’t changed much in the last 4 or 5 years. Well, I’ve been working out nearly daily during the same period and switched to organic food, so I’m lost weight and gained a more manly body shape (4 inches off my waist to 30"). However, I haven’t found much variance in the general effectiveness of mixes. I sensed a need to cut back on androstenone–working out might have something to do with that–but I can still wear more than most guys on this forum. Mainly I’ve learned to refine what works best for me in certain situations and how to align my behavior and appearance with my phero signature. I think if I started in HS and was hitting my mid-20s changes in body chemistry would more pronounced.