# Dial body-wash - adverse reaction. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 20, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394 "2011-05-20T17:54:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/1 "2011-05-20T17:54:42Z")
Tried dial body wash with A1 today. Fortunately, this is not a line from Adriotics. When I came out of the shower, I put my hand next to my mom’s nose and asked her what she thought. She now has severe pain cramps on her chest she never had before and then I felt depressed I caused another problem in here. I don’t think this depression is directly chemically caused by the product though, it made me to something that caused depression afterwards perhaps. True to the side-effects this product can cause depression. Will be checking for reactions from the ladies on how this product works in real life. Dial body-wash so far has a nice tingling sensation in the body, like I went to a cool lake next to a beach and I actually like how the Dial Body Wash with A1 feels. ---
**Author:** ![bodomslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bodomslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bodomslayer)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/2 "2011-05-20T18:04:33Z")
I would think a good idea to counteract the depression would to take something like saint johns wort to counteract it long enough to where you build immunity to the A1. Also It might be better to get the product LS offers and dilute it down until you have a tolerance to it, and then consequently up the dosage. Just a thought. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/3 "2011-05-20T18:31:03Z")
Dial magnetic doesnt have enough A1 in it to cause depression unless your ultra sensitive in which people with high a1 signatures would also send you into depression. Its high doses of A1 that does this. Thats why they dont sell it here. They cant regulate how much people use and they cant put it in a formula till 2012 to regulate that way because of the patent. In Dial its washed off which automatically regulates it. I would say the depression is caused by your mothers over reaction to everything her grown son does. I would really consider stopping in the sharing of everything you do with her. It just causes distress for you both. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/4 "2011-05-20T18:44:09Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Dial magnetic doesnt have enough A1 in it to cause depression unless your ultra sensitive in which cause people with high a1 signatures would also send you into depression. Its high doses of A1 that does this. Thats why they dont sell it here. They cant regulate how much people use and they cant put it in a formula till 2012 to regulate that way because of the patent. In Dial its washed off which automatically regulates it. > > I would say the depression is caused by your mothers over reaction to everything her grown son does. I would really consider stopping in the sharing of everything you do with her. It just causes distress for you both. > > Tisha So AD will sell A1 in 2012? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/5 "2011-05-20T18:52:20Z")
> [@Climax](#): > > So AD will sell A1 in 2012? I dont know, I doubt it… but never say never. I dont think they would sell it in the experimone section there is to much opportunity for abuse of the molecule and people have a more is better mentality with mones. They may use it in a formula in such a way they can regulate the dosage or they may find a putative by then thats similar without the adverse effects which is more likely IMO 😉 I cant say for sure. 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/6 "2011-05-20T19:31:55Z")
To me A1 is a redundant product. We can get the same affects with safer molecules. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/7 "2011-05-20T19:47:36Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Dial magnetic doesnt have enough A1 in it to cause depression unless your ultra sensitive in which cause people with high a1 signatures would also send you into depression. Its high doses of A1 that does this. Thats why they dont sell it here. They cant regulate how much people use and they cant put it in a formula till 2012 to regulate that way because of the patent. In Dial its washed off which automatically regulates it. > > **I would say the depression is caused by your mothers over reaction to everything her grown son does. I would really consider stopping in the sharing of everything you do with her. It just causes distress for you both.** > > Tisha I nearly spit out my redbull all over my work comp when I read this. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/8 "2011-05-20T19:51:40Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I nearly spit out my redbull all over my work comp when I read this. Tisha: keepin’ it real. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/9 "2011-05-21T00:02:06Z")
My mother is fine right now. There is no self-effect of depression reported for the remainder of this day. I’ve interpreted any depression coming from A1 to be hopelessly romantic, or love sick, or something like that. Wanting to express romantic love, etc… Think cupid is around striking arrows with this stuff on. More cogniscant of people french kissing or displaying gestures of romantic love in public…rather than the sexual…so I think the signature must be affecting the lens. Enough for theorizing love and depression and A1… Today I just felt more tired than usual. I think the self-effect of A1 is to make me fall asleep, not make me depressed. I’ll have to go to bed earlier tonight and get plenty of sleep, drink coffee, and like see if this still responsibile for making me sleepy. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/10 "2011-05-21T04:44:33Z")
I’ve got a private message (will not disclose any user name) from someone that has also claimed to have chest pain when using pheromones, like the molecules get trapped into the lungs and cause long-term lung damage. I’ve replied to his message to request more background information. Claims mods are hired from Adroitics to make the products “seem” healthy. If anyone else wants to share anything to me about these pheromones, please feel free to PM me. Keep in mind – that A1 used here is not from Adroitics, it is from Dial Magnetic. I’ve made another thread before that I deleted concerning A314 pheromone, however, this bottle is sitting in the basement and may be eventually returned back to Adroitics for a refund. Beyond this I have not formally made any ‘adverse reaction’ complaints beyond the Neroli cover scent used in the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) products. My pheromone usage is usually once or twice per week, and I usually use about 1 spray and the body wash may be used more regularly (i.e everytime I use the shower). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/11 "2011-05-21T04:46:51Z")
To be honest the intensity of your effects seem placebic to me. Dial does not contain that much A1. And in any case, unless you took 3 showers today the effects wouldve worn off by now. Soaps/shampoos/etc are not great carriers like sprays or oils. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/12 "2011-05-21T08:02:07Z")
> [@Luke\_Skywalker](#): > > I’ve got a private message (will not disclose any user name) from someone that has also claimed to have chest pain when using pheromones, like the molecules get trapped into the lungs and cause long-term lung damage. I’ve replied to his message to request more background information. > > Claims mods are hired from Adroitics to make the products “seem” healthy. If anyone else wants to share anything to me about these pheromones, please feel free to PM me. > > Keep in mind – that A1 used here is not from Adroitics, it is from Dial Magnetic. I’ve made another thread before that I deleted concerning A314 pheromone, however, this bottle is sitting in the basement and may be eventually returned back to Adroitics for a refund. Beyond this I have not formally made any ‘adverse reaction’ complaints beyond the Neroli cover scent used in the Instant Shine products. > > My pheromone usage is usually once or twice per week, and I usually use about 1 spray and the body wash may be used more regularly (i.e everytime I use the shower). I find it suspicious that this person just doesn’t respond with there accusations right in your thread. If they are getting chest pain its certainly something AD and the members need to know. In my opinion this person probably is from a competing company and knows your weakness so they will use you as a pawn to try to damage the reputation of company. Either that or they suffer from paranoia and delusions. As far as Mods being hired, the only mods here are Steve John and Mickaelia and they never hid the fact that they work for AD nor do they comment on health at all. As a member here and a long time pheromone user my opinion is… The claim that pheromone molecules get trapped in the lungs causing long term lung damage is not only ridiculous but delusional. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are no more likely to get trapped in your lungs then any other substance you inhale and you inhale far more dangerous chemicals every single day. How many of your neighbors get there lawns treated ? Do you go to the gas station and pump gas ? Do you drive on the highway ? Sit at red lights in traffic ? Ever use bug spray ? Do you smell peoples aftershave or perfume in public places. Do you use cleaners to clean your home office car ? or how about the food you eat… Do you buy organic produce that is not been chemically altered. Unless you eat out of your own private garden or buy it organic you dont. Do you raise your own livestock and eat it ? If you dont every time you eat meat your ingesting far more hormones then you can get from using a life time of pheromones. Unless you buy organic all meat even chicken is injected with chemicals and livestock are injected with hormones that stay in the meat and you ingest. Its been proven and studies have shown it causing problems in children’s development already. Do you drink milk ? Hormones are found in milk from the injections given to the livestock to make them produce more. There are far more dangerous things out there then pheromones that do not even enter the blood stream like other substances. My advice to you Luke and to this person suffering from chest pains is to return your mones and do not use them. Not because they will harm you but because both of you suffer from some, to put it politely, " personal issues " that are far more important for you to deal with. Until you deal with those issues pheromones will do you no good anyways and you will keep experiencing adverse effects. I also strongly suggest while you should always love, respect and care for your mother, cut the apron strings and be your own man. Until you do her delusions will become yours. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/13 "2011-05-21T08:30:34Z")
> [@Luke\_Skywalker](#): > > I’ve got a private message (will not disclose any user name) from someone that has also claimed to have chest pain when using pheromones, like the molecules get trapped into the lungs and cause long-term lung damage. I’ve replied to his message to request more background information. > > Claims mods are hired from Adroitics to make the products “seem” healthy. If anyone else wants to share anything to me about these pheromones, please feel free to PM me… > > . The world has no shortage of conspiracy theorists 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 12:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/14 "2011-05-21T12:28:00Z")
Have not heard back from the other person as to background information yet. Waiting for other people to give feedback about their pheromone usage. Tisha is on the defensive. First of all, this thread is about Dial Magnetic products and the mail-delivery costs 4 times more than the product itself does. I’ll be losing more money if I try to get any refund on this soap. Secondly, it’s understood that the Instant line products will probably have some sort of strong cover scent within the first 15 minutes of application and afterwards that should go away. That being said, apart from A314, I have not had any serious adverse reaction with any pheromone product so far. The real issue is does these products actually work to attract women. Even if there is a strong placebo effect about all of these “reactions”, then wouldn’t there be a strong placebo effect on the other direction as well? So far, I’ve used Dial Magnetic soap, Instant Openness and Instant Shine and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). Most of the time it is one spray. Honestly, I have noticed only one blatant hit since I’ve tried the products, (i.e. 4 IS (2 times), with 2 A314 drops), and some social lube (i.e. 1 spray IO and 1 spray IS), and a micro-hit with Dial Magnetic soap. Because, even if there is some adjustment phase to these products, you want to know, at the end of the day, they could actually help accomplish the goal it is intended to accomplish. If they do work to attract women, then it becomes a value judgment as to whether the adverse reactions in any adjustment phase is worth it, or in general, is worth it, on top of the economic cost of buying these products to get attention from women. If it is worth it to me, then it’s interesting that I don’t consider other more rational “costs”, such as approaching a girl and talking to her and risking feelings of emotional vulnerability, embarassment, or her not cooperating etc… or whatever and would rather thake an economic and potential health risk. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/15 "2011-05-21T12:40:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Tisha is on the defensive. First of all, this thread is about Dial Magnetic products and the mail-delivery costs 4 times more than the product itself does. I’ll be losing more money if I try to get any refund on this soap. Why would I be on the defensive ? I have no connection to Dial magnetic or Androtics. Your reports jump all over the place with inconsistencies, bizarre happening’s usually involving your mother and you report adverse reactions more then good ones. I think mones are more detrimental to your happiness then they are beneficial for you which is why I said to stop using them. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![intrigued](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/intrigued/32/2009_2.png) [@intrigued](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/intrigued)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/16 "2011-05-21T15:53:02Z")
I have NEVER gotten these reactions from anyone using ANY pheromones and I have been complimented several times on “smelling really good” and so has a friend of mine. As for dial magnetic I use it occationally when I am not testing mixes and putatives and I get nothing but compliments on the smell. Even my mother complimented the smell of dial when I stayed over for a family get together and took a shower. no offence but from what I can tell this is all bullshit on your part. ( just calling it like I see it) ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/17 "2011-05-21T20:32:17Z")
The special connection PMed me again today. So far, only one person has replied to this thread admitting pheromones cause adverse effect. This special contact said that he noticed negative effects after two months of use and he never smoked a cigarette and has been using the products for one year. In terms of making any decisions to stop pheromone use, I have to see what is the full range of the good side of these products first. First of all, I’m not using enough pheromones to produce hits, or haven’t really tested the “maculine vibe” pheromones such as Instant Jerk (not purchased), Insant Ammo (not purchased), Turn up the Heat (on shelf, not used yet), [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (only one spray used). Only hit to date is on a A314 and IS combo, and a micro-hit on Dial Magnetic soap (if interpreted as such). So, it’s not fair if I’m going to take some reaction from A314 and Dial Magnetic Soap and make a decision to start returning pheromones and there is nobody on here that can convince me to return back any pheromone and get a refund. That is not the point of this thread. This was a serious inquiry to see if anyone had adverse reactions to this product, Dial Magnetic body wash soap. I’m not going to delete this thread because this guy claims the mods delete threads that are critical about their product (I don’t think Dial Magnetic is responsible for maintaining this forum). The fact this thread exists will disprove that fact. Now, I’m not sure whether these products will help me show my personality better or steer a tight thought process I have into a new direction that may tip the scales towards more interaction with women leading to actual closes. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/18 "2011-05-21T22:10:15Z")
Here’s my official statement: 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/20 "2011-05-21T22:34:26Z")
Also btw if you bothered to search this forum instead of reading some random PMs from one sketchy individual you’d read where we’ve mentioned negative effects of some molecules in high dosages, but what you described is a bit over the top. mHarris even posted about A1 and there are even posts from us about meo-est, which we stopped selling, that molecule has specific risks which we acknowledged the research of. So educate yourself instead of just falling all over some coward’s PMs who won’t even post in public. Edit: For the record, it’s silliness like the cowards that do stuff like this hiding in the shadows that makes me sick, I just threw up in my mouth a little. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/21 "2011-05-21T23:00:47Z")
Damn it I thought God was picking him up at 6 Pm today. > [@John](#): > > Edit: For the record, it’s silliness like the cowards that do stuff like this hiding in the shadows that makes me sick, I just threw up in my mouth a little. Its not silliness its evilness. If this person had a problem they should just post it or contact the store. I bitch at you guys over various shit all the time and you never deleted one post. In fact I talked about my concern over Meo est all the time. This person is so full of shit it pisses me off. Good thing I’m a good witch. Tisha PS… John …Go use some scope 😃 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394.md?page=2)