# Dial body-wash - adverse reaction. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 20, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394 "2011-05-20T17:54:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/23 "2011-05-22T00:21:11Z")
Well said the pair of you - John & Tisha. I know the policy of this forum is to be polite and tolerant but i’m more used to places where you call a spade a fucking spade, so it does take some effort to bite back when I see someone whose issues may at best be attributable to mental illness or at worst outright self-obsessed idocy/maliciousness stirring shit big-time. 😠 ---
**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/24 "2011-05-22T16:28:46Z")
if i may just chime in a bit, luke. I’ve used A1 with various levels of success but to say it elicits romantic feelings from women might really REALLY be pushing it. Have you ever had chocolates and felt the chemical equivalent of love? I like it because it seems to boost the effects of IO or IH for me. Like John mentioned, there are many other things you could use if you are not comfortable with it. The only side effect i have ever experienced was when i put on approximately 100 mcg in the car. I felt a bit dull and bored but became totally alright once i got out of the vehicle. At least for me, the effects can be avoided because 100 mcg is really not necessary to begin with (i was experimenting with the dosage) and you really shouldn’t be spraying mones in a confined space lol I’m guessing you probably read that a1 breaks down into none quite quickly with the presence of bacteria right? I have my doubts on how long it can effectively stay on your skin anyway. Personally, i wouldn’t listen too much to a person who insists that the products are bad for your health but still logs into the forum. I mean, i never got a pm like that from anyone so he is obviously not here to warn everyone about this and thus his noble intentions seem kinda fishy. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/25 "2011-05-22T22:45:54Z")
Good report today. This time I used it and my mom didn’t over-react and I didn’t put my arm up to her nose. She said I had a smell as a “real man” and she had not smelt it for a long time and asked if I put that bottle on. I lied and said it was another bodywash (an AMWAY bodywash product) to test her out. Eventually I admitted it was Dial Magnetic. She told me she could not wear this soap because it was too masculine and she can’t wear something that belongs to a man. So, at the very least, this A1 infused soap does have a clear masculine signal. The Dial Magnetic body wash soap intension is to encourage me to take showers and put fashionable clothes on when going outside rather than putting on some tract-suit and leaving the home for some casual sort of errand. Usually I tend to shower and dress before meeting a client or before a socially concentrated event. I tend to go out on my gym clothes or casual clothes without bathing if I have to get something quick at a store, or do something outside that’s not really socially involving. This provides an extra incentive to shower up before leaving the home. Therefore - lesson 1, to not put your arm next to any woman’s nose to smell your skin. * * * Self-effects: May feel tired or drowsy inside the car, seems like a tranquelizer effect where you can just fall asleep. No depression. This may embolden me to try copious amounts of soap, or try cooler water to ensure the pores open up and trap some of this stuff inside and see if there is any difference. Effect on others: Now, on the very limited social content of going out today, I didn’t notice ANYTHING out of the ordinary, and no hits. Any furture documentation of effects of this will be on my journal “Trying out Pheromones for the first time” on the Men’s journal section. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/26 "2011-05-23T14:16:57Z")
I believe I am noticing a very real side-effect for the A1 in Dial Magnetic. That is, I’ve never felt this tired before. Last night, I conked out earlier in the night and just went straight to sleep. Had about 8-9 hours of sleep. Wake up, I’m still exausted and feel like sleeping again, I’m like wtf? My mom was warming up to this product yesterday, but is now cautious knowing it is banned in Canada and possibly some states in the U.S.A. and she wants to know why is the sale of this particular product banned in Canada. Canada is not like Turkey, and almost anything that is sold in the US is also sold here. I’ve imported the product. The last time I wore Dial Magnetic, I remember feeling tired at the wheel. So, could the depression effects be high dosages, but lower dosages act like a tranquelizer? ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/27 "2011-05-23T21:01:06Z")
> [@Luke\_Skywalker](#): > > My mom was warming up to this product yesterday, but is now cautious knowing it is banned in Canada and possibly some states in the U.S.A. and she wants to know why is the sale of this particular product banned in Canada. Ya Got a Link for THAT!?! I Did about 20 Minutes of Searching and Found No References to the Product Being Banned Anywhere at All… ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/28 "2011-05-23T21:01:58Z")
Troll. Why even entertain him? ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/29 "2011-05-23T21:03:02Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Troll. Why even entertain him? I Don’t FEED the Trolls but I Will Ask them to Put Up or Shut Up… 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/30 "2011-05-23T22:30:08Z")
> [@Pandakun](#): > > Ya Got a Link for THAT!?! I Did about 20 Minutes of Searching and Found No References to the Product Being Banned Anywhere at All… Call Dial corporation directly. I will give you the link to call their head-office: [Dial - Home](http://www.dialsoap.com/) You can find the number and contact it and enquire about where they sell their product. Ask them if they sell it in Canada. As for the other goofs on this forum who say I’m trolling - I think I have put up allot of risks in trying out these [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). It’s safe to say that probably nobody else has paid $ 30.00 shipping costs for a $ 5.00 product to experiment with it. I also own other TO GO bottles of this stuff. Why would I do that if I can go to a corner store and buy this soap? Do you narbos think for one minute, I bought products for the purpose of writing a thread like this to get attention? That is absurd. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/31 "2011-05-23T22:45:00Z")
Today I wore AMWAY body soap, and the previous dial soap is washed out. Still seem somewhat tired, but more alert. My mom says I look way better than yesterday (with Dial Magnetic). Yesterday looked like “jet-lag” (her own term to described how tired I was). Yesterday I had a coffee ice-cream and a cofee-protein drink and I still felt like sleeping. The best way to test this is if I take some coffee, make sure I’m well rested and full of energy, drink a can or two of Red bull THEN and on that day try Dial Magnetic and see if this puts me to sleep after ingesting allot of caffine. Let’s see how good this works as a tranquelizer if it really has this property. Do not get me wrong. If Dial Magnetic really does have a tranquelizing property with me - then there is nothing wrong with a sleeping pill that is in a form of a body wash. I’d just have to use it before going to sleep. There is always a place for something like that. As long as there is no panic/anxiety attacks. Still have yet to see hits from the ladies with this type of soap. Therefore, I’m narrowing down the self-effect of Dial Magnetic as a tranquilizer and will study this more intently. ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/32 "2011-05-23T23:14:52Z")
Response from Dial… The Product is NOT LAUNCHED in Canada… They Seem to have Just Recently gotten the Dial for Men Products… So it’s NOT Banned it’s Just Not Out Yet… Infact there are MANY Sources in Canada that you Can Buy A1 Based Products (Same as in Magnetic) in Canada… Source of this Info the Dial Corporate 1800 Number… As for the USA the Only Regulation for Pheromones is to Restrict Use in Wild Game Hunting… The Use in Consumer Products is Not Banned or OutLawed in ANY of the 50 US States… As for Dial Magnetic… It Actually Wakes Me Up… Not in a Caffeine HIGH Way… I’m Wake and Aware but Mellow not Jittery… You’ll Likely Find that Others here have Had the Same Effects when using it… ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/33 "2011-05-23T23:26:48Z")
> [@Pandakun](#): > > Response from Dial… The Product is NOT LAUNCHED in Canada… They Seem to have Just Recently gotten the Dial for Men Products… So it’s NOT Banned it’s Just Not Out Yet… Infact there are MANY Sources in Canada that you Can Buy A1 Based Products (Same as in Magnetic) in Canada… Source of this Info the Dial Corporate 1800 Number… You say it is not launched in Canada, and say it is available in Canada? Both can’t be right. When will it be launched? What A1 products are available in Canada that I can walk to a local store and buy it? > [@Pandakun](#): > > As for the USA the Only Regulation for Pheromones is to Restrict Use in Wild Game Hunting… The Use in Consumer Products is Not Banned or OutLawed in ANY of the 50 US States… Okay, guess it may have been out of stock on five wallmart stores I called a few weekends ago in Buffalo. > [@Pandakun](#): > > As for Dial Magnetic… It Actually Wakes Me Up… Not in a Caffeine HIGH Way… I’m Wake and Aware but Mellow not Jittery… You’ll Likely Find that Others here have Had the Same Effects when using it… Well, I’d like to hear more reports from other users of that type of effect to prove your “likely”. If people on this thread are just give simple feedback about the effects of their use of A1, both good and bad, rather than try to flame me then this thread would go allot further. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/34 "2011-05-24T00:11:16Z")
Actually Luke is partially correct and I dont need to call Dial to find out. Pheromones in a cosmetic products are banned in Canada. This means added to soaps, makeup, lotions, hair gel etc etc. **Not in colognes or perfumes. You can also buy them mixed or as single molecules there. Pheromones presented as pheromones are not banned in Canada.** It has nothing to do with the safety of pheromones, its more about consumer awareness and conscious choice. Some people may not want to use a hormone/pheromone and not realize its in the product. Again pheromones in themselves are not banned. Dial is banned because two of its chemicals are banned list as well as it being a pheromone in a cosmetic product. So since pheromones from here are not perfumes but just pheromone its fine. [Changes to the Cosmetic Ingredient Hotlist - Health Canada](http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/cosmet-person/indust/hot-list-critique/changes-modifications-eng.php) Dial hasn’t launched in Canada because they know they cant. They are aware of the regulations. Canada seems a little over protective if you ask me. 😃 Pheromones are not banned in any of the States in the USA in a cosmetic product or on there own. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/35 "2011-05-24T00:17:00Z")
> [@Luke\_Skywalker](#): > > You say it is not launched in Canada, and say it is available in Canada? Both can’t be right. When will it be launched? What A1 products are available in Canada that I can walk to a local store and buy it? > > Okay, guess it may have been out of stock on five wallmart stores I called a few weekends ago in Buffalo. > > Well, I’d like to hear more reports from other users of that type of effect to prove your “likely”. If people on this thread are just give simple feedback about the effects of their use of A1, both good and bad, rather than try to flame me then this thread would go allot further. You Need to LEARN to READ… I Said that I Found No Reference to it Being Banned in Canada… As for Finding it in Buffalo, Good Luck it’s a Populous Area and this Product Sells Out Even in My Small Town… Do some REAL Research and You will Find Many Canadian Online Shops that Sell [Pheromone Product](https://a314.com/shop/) to Canadians… There are Not a Huge Amount of Pheromone Based Products on Retail Shelves at This Time… As for Products in Canada how about Got2b Magnetik Styling Gel… They have been Selling it in Canada for Awhile Now… I’m Not Tring to Flame You, Just That you Made a Claim Based on False Info and Gave Nothing to Back it Up… I Checked it out and Found it Wrong and Pointed it Out… If you Think that is Flaming then Get Off the Internet, your just to Dainty for it… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/36 "2011-05-24T00:23:53Z")
Luke you seem to be in the fight or flight stage a lot. Any pheromone can make you tired because of this. Caffeine will do it. Sugar will do it, red bull will do it and if you have this issue of severe anxiety (which it appears you do) pheromones will make you tired. Not just A1 but any pheromones because with the fight or flight hormones firing and your neurotransmitters firing all at once it will poop you out and sleep is when you replenish them, not to mention your diet may not be up to par to help prevent this. A1 can make people feel blue or down. This usually occurs in large doses not in the minuscule amounts your using. However due to other issues you are having with over stress and anxiety you may be more sensitive then others. Its that simple. Everyone will not have the same reaction as you because everyone is not biologically like you. Just like some people cant take aspirin. It doesn’t mean aspirin is bad it just means they cant take it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/37 "2011-05-24T00:23:55Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Actually Luke is partially correct and I dont need to call Dial to find out. > > Pheromones in a cosmetic products are banned in Canada. This mean added to soaps, makeup, lotions, hair gel etc etc. **Not in colognes or perfumes. You can also buy them mixed or as single molecules there.** > > Tisha That’s Odd I have Friends in Canada that Buy Got2b Magnetik in Local Shops… They Don’t have to Import it the US via Online Sale… Infact your List Shows it BlackListed since 2004 but the Got2b Products have been on Shelves in Canada since 2007 as far as I Know… Maybe Something Different about Got2B Magnetik in Canada?!? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/38 "2011-05-24T00:44:06Z")
> [@Pandakun](#): > > That’s Odd I have Friends in Canada that Buy Got2b Magnetik in Local Shops… They Don’t have to Import it the US via Online Sale… Infact your List Shows it BlackListed since 2004 but the Got2b Products have been on Shelves in Canada since 2007 as far as I Know… Maybe Something Different about Got2B Magnetik in Canada?!? Well I am not surprised if they are finding it in smaller specialty shops or some smaller stores that can stay under the radar. Hell in the USA you can find products that are not supposed to be sold here if you look in the right places. Stores like Walmart and the larger US chains in Canada are under more scrutiny so they have to comply. Also as I mentioned there are two other chemicals on the black list that are in dial so this could be part of it. Looking at that list its a wonder they let them wash at all up there. LOL Its a little over the top if you ask me. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/39 "2011-05-24T13:51:42Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Luke you seem to be in the fight or flight stage a lot. Any pheromone can make you tired because of this. Caffeine will do it. Sugar will do it, red bull will do it and if you have this issue of severe anxiety (which it appears you do) pheromones will make you tired. Not just A1 but any pheromones because with the fight or flight hormones firing and your neurotransmitters firing all at once it will poop you out and sleep is when you replenish them, not to mention your diet may not be up to par to help prevent this. I’m not sure if that’s accurate. I think IS, and IO do not have that effect, as those pheromones actually increase energy levels while reducing edginess at the same time (i.e which is exactly why it helps put a more social vibe). Even A314 didn’t cause tiredness or sleep and I’ve worn heavy A314 and IS combos before. Why would A1 dose in a soap overwhelm my neuro transmiters to cause drowsiness, without any further spray pheromone add ons, but when I’ve doused myself with other pheromones, I felt anything but tired? > [@tisha](#): > > A1 can make people feel blue or down. This usually occurs in large doses not in the minuscule amounts your using. However due to other issues you are having with over stress and anxiety you may be more sensitive then others. Or…reduce the body’s energy level vibration and therefore cause depression? Any reduction of body energy is parallel to depression since depressed people don’t have energy. I knew this product was banned in Canada. I have no choice but to pay allot of money for shipping to buy this product. ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/40 "2011-05-24T13:55:26Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Also as I mentioned there are two other chemicals on the black list that are in dial so this could be part of it. Looking at that list its a wonder they let them wash at all up there. LOL Its a little over the top if you ask me. > > Tisha We are not as bad as Turkey otherwise they would not have allowed this product to be shipped to my home. It could be worst. At least I’m only getting ripped-off rather than not being allowed to try it out. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/41 "2011-05-24T16:23:04Z")
What does your well informed “secret source” say, Luke? 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Luke\_Skywalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Luke\_Skywalker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Luke_Skywalker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394/42 "2011-05-24T16:39:47Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > What does your well informed “secret source” say, Luke? 🆒 Nothing. Muttered something about trying Neil Strauss’ “The Game”. I looked at that book back in 2006. It’s just telling a story with tidbits here and there, but not enough to change your life. Already know about the whole PUA, INCEL, etc… all sorts of groups out there. I like the pheromone concept because it appeals the most to my analytical type of personality. I can now narrow things down to types of sprays, amounts of sprays, etc… and be all scientific about that type of approach to women rather than feeling something is wrong with me because of my lack of social exposure or social experience and that feeling that I’m just “off” vibe no matter what I do. So I think that with my edgy and quiet type of personality, which is pretty much anti-seduction, pheromones have a potential to make a difference. Have to try it out and see. Any advice to look at PUA stuff sort of doesn’t work because I look at things from a more holistic perspective…which is, I have to feel comfortable interacting with women before thinking of any PUA stuff. Pheromones at least have that premise appeal. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dial-body-wash-adverse-reaction/50394.md?page=3)