# Did anybody else notice?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 20, 2012, 8:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632 "2012-02-20T08:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![devoto21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/devoto21/32/823_2.png) [@devoto21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/devoto21)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 8:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/1 "2012-02-20T08:46:40Z")
Why did everything in here triple in price.I bought alot of product during the years and took a couple of time off to go to college. When I returned home I found out my little brother(16) was using my phermones and loved it. I guess so what I will just buy some online and also my brother wanted me to buy him some for his birthday. I went online and could not beleive my eyes. the price nearly quadtriple. I mean something i use to get for $20 two years ago now cost $120. I will not pay this amount of money for phermones. I use to be able to get all i need with $120. Forget this, I will have to find another place to buy my phermones. Don’t get me wrong I love there product but will not waste all that money on something that probably cost 99 cent to produce in china. I mean what could have change so much in order to quadtriple the price of there product. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/2 "2012-02-20T09:15:19Z")
Yes, we did notice and there may even be quite a few other threads in the lastfew months from people were also gobsmacked at the price rises. You may also have missed this: > [@The Future of Pheromone Technology: The Golden 13 Molecules.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-future-of-pheromone-technology-the-golden-13-molecules/54034): > > Hello Folks. The future of pheromone technology. Mighty molecules with incredible effects. Innovative formulas. Repeatable results. Sustainable production. We can have all of this. If we focus on THIRTEEN GOLDEN molecules. Read on to get the backstory. Or just scroll to the bottom so you know which ten we’re talking about. These are the molecules we’ve invested in for the future. These are the molecules we have figured out how to make sustainably. Every one of them is a Pure Lab Standard,… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/3 "2012-02-20T14:09:36Z")
> [@](#): > > I love there product but will not waste all that money on something that probably cost 99 cent to produce in china. I mean what could have change so much in order to quadtriple the price of there product. Well for one no mone sold here is from China. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) from china are so low quality they are barely effective. While the price increases are disappointing I would rather spend more money on a quality effective product then waste even a little on a product that is not effective. The price increases are not on all products. Just some harder to synthesize molecules. There is another thing to think about. Some of the molecules here are not available anywhere else. They have been synthesized just for AD. I am not trying to discourage you from shopping elsewhere. I dont do all my mone shopping here. Just keep it in persective and be careful where you buy molecules. Dont expect them to be like AD’s mones either. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/4 "2012-02-20T14:33:07Z")
Personally I would have just taken the 30ml options for whats on short supply out of the store rather then offend people.. or put as out of stock. for example I didn’t see p96 or p97 in 30ml bottles, not even at 2.5mcg… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/5 "2012-02-20T21:02:19Z")
I think we all noticed the price hike but I know when I buy from AD - I’m getting quality. That being said I also have bought from 3 other companies with no regrets. ---
**Author:** ![CMBC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@CMBC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CMBC)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/6 "2012-02-21T11:23:39Z")
Will the prices be going back to normal in the future? Or are those prices here to stay? ---
**Author:** ![LaIntencion32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/laintencion32/32/1362_2.png) [@LaIntencion32](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaIntencion32)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/7 "2012-02-23T00:49:38Z")
I like some of you I have been away since 2010… I was also eye struck to see the prices. The only thing I can say is based on past customer service and product quality and satisfaction that if they hiked the prices must be for a reason - I mean the economy now a days is not “very good looking”. As a musician I have learned that in the music niche you “get what you paid for”… hence for example we all know how expensive Bose System(s) are; yet the quality of sound from a Bose is mind blowing! … Same goes with AD … My 5 cents, not 2 … (the economy remember)! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/8 "2012-02-23T23:11:20Z")
I’ve only been away for 3 months…and BAM [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) at a real DisHonest Price! zing! pow! whamo!.. and for a currently broke musician thats what 5ml togo bottles are for…but hey if that’s what’s gotta happen to keep AD running I guess it’s what’s gotta happen. ---
**Author:** ![CMBC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@CMBC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CMBC)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/9 "2012-02-23T23:44:38Z")
Well it sounds like a lot of you haven’t looked in to WHY the cost has been raised. I suggest you do so before you just judge that AD is hiking prices for no reason. They have made it publicly known on these boards why the cost has increased. My question is whether the price will decrease, and if so when that may be. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/10 "2012-02-24T03:39:17Z")
> [@CMBC](#): > > Will the prices be going back to normal in the future? Or are those prices here to stay? Well that really depends on supply and demand and the cost of doing business just like with other business. With gas prices on the rise again its not likely to happen any time soon. While oil doesn’t have a direct effect on the pheromone industry it does play a huge impact on every product sold pheromones or otherwise. AD has a tough choice to make. Either use lesser quality chemicals, supplies and services to offset the increase in everything and risk damaging the reputation and integrity of the company or keep the quality that has made there products so effective, loved and in demand. While it sucks, I do see there dilemma because all businesses are having to make this choice even my husbands business. Supplies are skyrocketing. New taxes are being applied to businesses left and right and the price of distributing products is rising. People don’t understand how this is affecting business. Every business that sells a product (and even some that don’t) is making this choice right now. Gas prices are rising and it sets off a trickle down effect. For instance… Food prices are rising because the cost of transport is rising. The stamp is going up because every time the gas prices go up 1 cent it costs the PO 1 million dollars more a day to fuel our fleet. Coca cola and Pepsi just announced a 6% increase in the price of there products. Transportation and ingredients costs have risen for them. Sure they can buy different ingredients but to do so would change the taste and it just wouldn’t be Coke and Pepsi anymore, As consumers we can get the cheaper store brand or some other lower quality brand but its just not the same. We have to decide is the lesser quality product really worth it. For some it may be and for others there is nothing like the real thing. I do think as we approach the end of 2012 a lot of these economic problems will begin to smooth themselves out but I don’t think anyone can say if and when the prices will ever go back down to normal. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![CMBC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@CMBC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CMBC)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2012, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/11 "2012-02-24T08:06:50Z")
Tisha. I understand the concept you’ve outlined regarding how gas prices, taxes, etc, have a trickle down effect on everything. But we also need to realize the increases in those regards are minor and not the reason for the (triple?) in cost of many of the pheromones. The increase seems to be mostly attributed to simply a shortage in the services of scientist employees according to another post on these forums. So the main solution for the decrease in price would come from the main cause of the increase. Assuming the other article is correct, and that it is due to a shortage of scientists who make the proper chemicals for pheromones, the this is what should be looked at. Not gas prices. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2012, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/12 "2012-02-24T08:11:48Z")
> [@andromun](#): > > I think we all noticed the price hike but I know when I buy from AD - I’m getting quality. That being said I also have bought from 3 other companies with no regrets. They’ve bee sold in 30ml bottles … any strenght ! long long time ago ! **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-anybody-else-notice/54632/13 "2012-02-24T18:17:42Z")
> [@](#): > > So the main solution for the decrease in price would come from the main cause of the increase. Assuming the other article is correct, and that it is due to a shortage of scientists who make the proper chemicals for pheromones, the this is what should be looked at. Not gas prices. I am not saying these are the only factors in the price increase but they are part of the picture. I cant agree there is a shortage of chemists or scientists making the proper chemicals though especially when I have a scientist for a brother who attends all the conferences and symposiums. Of course this doesn’t mean AD can find qualified people to take on synthesizing molecules for them and I am sure its a major factor in their business decisions. I really don’t agree that prices being driven up due to gas is minor either. I along with my husband own a business and sure when you look at it from a stand point of just one supplier increasing rates it may not affect your prices that much but when all of the suppliers have to increase their rates it can add up and add up fast and put you in the red. That is going to effect obtaining the chemists and chemicals they need. I know the problem of not being able to find suitable chemists to help supply the specialized molecules they need is being worked on however you have to remember those chemists come at a price and sometimes that price is high. AD is a relatively small company but I know them well enough to know they are doing all they can. I know people are pissed and disappointed but I for one am not going to high tail it somewhere else because they are facing many of the same issues other small companies are facing. They are taking a risk with sticking to offering quality when they can just buy crap like many of the other companies are peddling and I commend them for not sacrificing quality for quantity. Tisha