# Did I over do socials? Too much = friend-zone? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 7, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795 "2010-12-07T18:15:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/1 "2010-12-07T18:15:12Z")
I went with a lot of socials, in addition to 1.5 drops of A314… I wiped some off with towel, so i say 1.5 drops… Also, I added about 25mcg of Androstadienone + 25 mcg of p96 + 3x togo [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), 2.5x togo IS… and 1x togo Ammo… **What y’all think?** ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/2 "2010-12-07T19:44:22Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > I went with a lot of socials, in addition to 1.5 drops of A314… I wiped some off with towel, so i say 1.5 drops… > Also, I added about 25mcg of Androstadienone + 25 mcg of p96 + 3x togo Instant Honesty, 2.5x togo IS… and 1x togo Ammo… > > **What y’all think?** Thats about what something like 30 mcgs of Beta nol with 25 of P96 and 25 of A-1. Are you shooting for a bonding mix? Because thats what it is. I prefer less b-nol but thats my preference but the rest of it looks okay. I dont look at it the same way when someone refers to “Comfort” and “Social” mones. A-1, P96 are comfort for me and B-nol/ A-nol and TAA are socials to me. Before someone goes and corrects me I am simply stating how I categorize them for myself. We have way too many molecules from AD to simply list them as social or sexual all the time and this is how I process them now in my head. Did you think it was too “friend zony” like? I have a much better chance of getting into a girls pants when I have solid mix of social and comforts going on with a sprinkle of masculines to push those physical buttons. Not that I ever act on my opportunities (I’ve had mine even though I don’t exploit sexual venues). You have to believe in your own observations as a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) user. You dont need us to take your hand and lead you around anymore. What can be friend zone like to one person could be the best random sexual encounter for another. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/3 "2010-12-07T20:50:40Z")
Friend zone is another thing that gets over thought out here. Believe it or not, those girls that are your friends where attracted to be friends with you for some reason right? I think people should focus on turning that “friend” attraction into whatever they would like it to be. Geogogi always says he likes being friends first.. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/4 "2010-12-07T21:28:45Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > I went with a lot of socials, in addition to 1.5 drops of A314… I wiped some off with towel, so i say 1.5 drops… > Also, I added about 25mcg of Androstadienone + 25 mcg of p96 + 3x togo Instant Honesty, 2.5x togo IS… and 1x togo Ammo… > > **What y’all think?** Well honestly I don’t know what to think. What was the result? What was the interaction? I don’t see anything wrong with socials and comforters. I think they work extremely well. In fact I think they are more consistent. ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/5 "2010-12-08T00:13:52Z")
b-nol is where its at!!! Girls get soooo touchy-feely especially if you instigate it. The only reason you think you’re in the “friend-zone” is because thats where you’ve put yourself IMO anyways… I can’t really know for sure but I can ask so: Did you make a move? ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/6 "2010-12-08T09:47:15Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Friend zone is another thing that gets over thought out here. Believe it or not, those girls that are your friends where attracted to be friends with you for some reason right? I think people should focus on turning that “friend” attraction into whatever they would like it to be. > > Geogogi always says he likes being friends first.. YOU need sexual tension. “friend zoned” or not. I prefer to stay out of “brother zone” and “dad zone” was “dad zoned” by young 21yr old girl… even though we screwed a few times it quickly fizzled… she constantly was like you do that like my dad blah blah blah (not the sex perverts 😛)… Your like a brother to me is the END all for any chance of a sexual relationship IMO!!! ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 10:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/7 "2010-12-08T10:02:48Z")
good friends make excellent fuck buddies.. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/8 "2010-12-08T16:57:35Z")
> [@GorMas2020](#): > > YOU need sexual tension. “friend zoned” or not. I prefer to stay out of “brother zone” and “dad zone” was “dad zoned” by young 21yr old girl… even though we screwed a few times it quickly fizzled… she constantly was like you do that like my dad blah blah blah (not the sex perverts 😛)… Your like a brother to me is the END all for any chance of a sexual relationship IMO!!! You can keep tension among friends 🙂,why not? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/9 "2010-12-08T17:02:03Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > You can keep tension among friends 🙂,why not? Do it all the time, it’s fun. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/10 "2010-12-08T18:10:12Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Friend zone is another thing that gets over thought out here. Believe it or not, those girls that are your friends where attracted to be friends with you for some reason right? I think people should focus on turning that “friend” attraction into whatever they would like it to be. > > Geogogi always says he likes being friends first.. While you make some valid points, when people refer to being “friend zoned,” they’re actually referring to the phrase… “Lets just be friends.” In that a chick has categorized you as a person she will never date, or have sex with. Not that it can’t ever change, its just a bit more difficult to change. Whereas being friends and not being categorized as “just friends only” has many more opportunities for growth into something else. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/11 "2010-12-08T18:40:42Z")
> [@psylocybin](#): > > b-nol is where its at!!! Girls get soooo touchy-feely especially if you instigate it. The only reason you think you’re in the “friend-zone” is because thats where you’ve put yourself IMO anyways… I can’t really know for sure but I can ask so: Did you make a move? Agreed. Bnol is a highway to intimacy. For me it has only ever been a catalyst and an accelerator for existing sexual attraction; I’ve never experienced it, as some have, of drowning out the spark. Another bit of advice I often see branded around here is “don’t use bnol to soon or you’ll end up in the friend zone” it’s never to soon for bnol. The sooner you wear it the more you stand out as someone special. Off course the special in this case is interpreted as a subjective special, i.e; “We get on really well, I feel a closeness between us … he’s special to _me_”. How much of a nice surprise is it going to be if you can convey those feelings the first time you meet someone? ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/12 "2010-12-08T20:27:15Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > While you make some valid points, when people refer to being “friend zoned,” they’re actually referring to the phrase… “Lets just be friends.” In that a chick has categorized you as a person she will never date, or have sex with. > > Not that it can’t ever change, its just a bit more difficult to change. Whereas being friends and not being categorized as “just friends only” has many more opportunities for growth into something else. I understand completely, but it seems to be a trend in this forum of guys being scared to be “friend zoned”. It is my personal opinion that the more we think we are friend zoned they more a person will act in ways that will lead to them friend zoning themselves. In other words, its another thing guys do to over analyze a situation and not take advantage of an opportunity that may present itself. I simply believe that the best action in a situation is to simply use what you know to mold your relationships in a way that you deem best fit. Everything is an opportunity as long as we look at it that way and do not worry too much about what could go wrong. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/13 "2010-12-08T20:34:13Z")
I haven’t really hung-out with them one-on-one yet… When I go on one-on-one, I make sure to use much ammo (sometimes Mx301 , which is more sexy and comfy version of ammo) and a little or some A314 with b- and a-nols with instant shine ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/14 "2010-12-08T20:42:18Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > I understand completely, but it seems to be a trend in this forum of guys being scared to be “friend zoned”. It is my personal opinion that the more we think we are friend zoned they more a person will act in ways that will lead to them friend zoning themselves. In other words, its another thing guys do to over analyze a situation and not take advantage of an opportunity that may present itself. I simply believe that the best action in a situation is to simply use what you know to mold your relationships in a way that you deem best fit. Everything is an opportunity as long as we look at it that way and do not worry too much about what could go wrong. Great frigging advice Maiden ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/15 "2010-12-08T21:39:22Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Great frigging advice Maiden Thank you sir, it comes from many years of thinking almost completely oppositely lol. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/16 "2010-12-08T21:48:36Z")
I’ve prolly had more ONS with friends than I did with random strangers lol ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/17 "2010-12-09T00:06:43Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > While you make some valid points, when people refer to being “friend zoned,” they’re actually referring to the phrase… “Lets just be friends.” In that a chick has categorized you as a person she will never date, or have sex with. > > Not that it can’t ever change, its just a bit more difficult to change. Whereas being friends and not being categorized as “just friends only” has many more opportunities for growth into something else. I also think that some people SAY I wanna be your friend when they don’t actually JUST wanna be friends. SO IMO you aren’t technically “friend zoned”. People say and do things that they think will get them closer to you. By saying your truly friends with a girl or guy means you probably wouldn’t screw them. It’s just the politically correct way to say I’m waiting for the opportunity to screw this person. Lets be friends first isn’t the same as I just wanna be friends. I think the term “friend zone” has become synonymous with the word friend and yes maiden we males do tend to over analyze the “friend zone” you are correct on that for sure 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![psylocybin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@psylocybin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/psylocybin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/18 "2010-12-09T01:08:17Z")
> [@WildFlower](#): > > Agreed. Bnol is a highway to intimacy. For me it has only ever been a catalyst and an accelerator for existing sexual attraction; I’ve never experienced it, as some have, of drowning out the spark. > > Another bit of advice I often see branded around here is “don’t use bnol to soon or you’ll end up in the friend zone” it’s never to soon for bnol. The sooner you wear it the more you stand out as someone special. Off course the special in this case is interpreted as a subjective special, i.e; “We get on really well, I feel a closeness between us … he’s special to _me_”. How much of a nice surprise is it going to be if you can convey those feelings the first time you meet someone? YES!!! Wildflower you understand! I had a girl with me a few days ago and she sayd these two things which I attribute first and foremost to beta-nol. She said these to me and similar things throughout the night: \*`You're an asshole.. but I'm attracted to you` \* \*`Psylocybin, you're actually a good guy but you make fun of everyone..` \* Its like the ultimate sex-mone if you already have sexual tension cause girls just feel comfortable around you no matter what. If you’ve just met, then its easy to create sexual tension cause theyre already comfortable with you and will be more inclined to do things such as: `sit on your lap, hold your hand, let you pull them around, tickle them, massage them, etc` The only reason it would F\*\*k you over is if you don’t make moves to show that you’re actually interested in a girl your with. **THATS** when she’ll categorize you as `just a friend`(especially to others if they ask her whats going on between you). Noone likes to feel uncertain as to whether the person they have slowly (or suddenly depending on how good you are 😛) grown attracted to is also attracted to them as well. Thats why its good to **make your intentions clear** as I feel thats what many people dont do. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/19 "2010-12-09T16:20:29Z")
> [@psylocybin](#): > > **THATS** when she’ll categorize you as `just a friend`(especially to others if they ask her whats going on between you). Noone likes to feel uncertain as to whether the person they have slowly (or suddenly depending on how good you are 😛) grown attracted to is also attracted to them as well. Thats why its good to **make your intentions clear** as I feel thats what many people dont do. That is 100% correct. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-i-over-do-socials-too-much-friend-zone/43795/20 "2010-12-09T16:31:45Z")
> [@GorMas2020](#): > > I think the term “friend zone” has become synonymous with the word friend I’m 44 and the phrases friend zone or “lets just be friends” has been around as long as I can remember…and I have NEVER heard them used in place of the word friend. There’s a huge difference between being a friend and being JUST a friend and that’s what is being discussed here…the two are not synonymous and won’t ever be. I’ve asked numerous women over the years about the friend zone and LBJF’s and have always gotten the same answer…99% of the time when you get into that zone you are not getting out of it…and 100% of the time they knew exactly what I was referring to. Not friends but those guys who were JUST friends and would NEVER be anything more.