# Did older A314 revisions work better? Rev 31, rev 32 and the current Royale **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 19, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226 "2015-11-19T03:56:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bellaismygirl9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5ac83/32.png) [@bellaismygirl9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bellaismygirl9)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/1 "2015-11-19T03:56:51Z")
I’ve ordered the sampler kit but I’ve also come across some complaints. One such complaint said the 314 used to work great but was changed and is no longer useful. rev31. apparently rev 32 is the one in use now and works better?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/2 "2015-11-19T04:08:24Z")
The actual version of A314 is Royale V1. Both rev. 32 and 31 are no longer available. I suggest you try the product for yourself and make up your own mind about it 🙂, that’s always the best way to go. For me, it has proven to be great stuff 🙂. This thread should be moved to Men’s Advice section by a moderator. It will receive much more attention there. This is the journal section. ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/3 "2015-11-19T04:35:35Z")
I haven’t used other versions, only the current one, Royale. So far, I’m super pleased with it. I’ve used it on dates, social gatherings, and business. It gives me the results I wanted in my social interactions. You can read about my experience in my journal. > [@An Older Gay Male Perspective](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-older-gay-male-perspective/64949): > > I’ve been using pheromones for the past several weeks, and it’s time for my first journal entry. A little background about myself? I’m a middle aged gay man. Came out when I was 17. I tend to be on the masculine end of the spectrum; so many times people don’t realize I’m gay. (I’ve disappointed many women over the years.) I’m also SE Asian descent. Between working out regularly, sporting a Mohawk, and having a darker complexion, I have a fairly badass exterior, which can catch people off … By the way, this thread should go in the main section rather than in the journal section. You’ll get more feedback that way. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 11:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/4 "2015-11-19T11:13:57Z")
> [@bellaismygirl9](#): > > I’ve ordered the sampler kit but I’ve also come across some complaints. One such complaint said the 314 used to work great but was changed and is no longer useful. rev31. > apparently rev 32 is the one in use now and works better?😕 A314 is a batched product and yes, there has always been slight differences/evolution between revisions - as has there been people complaining that this batch is nothing like the last one. This may or may not be related to the actual phero content as AD are on record that a change in **any** component, not just pheros can result in a new Rev number being Apart from Rev31 which was a dud in oil (but not sprays) due to poor diffusion and was eventually recalled/refunded, they have all been perfectly usable and some batches (notably Rev32) were hated initially but became very popular due to being more usable in sexual mixes compared to more severe/professional status of other Revs (notably 17/20) which required more careful steering/moderation. Royale - the current Rev is an interesting one. I’m finding it has status/authority qualities qualities more in common with older Revs (pre-Rev23) but a broader, more social/dynamic/pleasant edge that makes it very useful in a wide range of applications and with a much wider dose range. It also has a different and much lighter than usual (although this has also varied between Revs) scent which makes it much easier to use in professional no/low-scent environments and is very easy to cover with just about anything elsewhere. So don’t pay too much attention to the doom and gloom about each new Rev - try some and if it doesn’t suit you, get a refund - and they will honour the warranty right down to the bottom of the bottle as it can take a bit longer to get to grips with a complex product like A314. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 1:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/5 "2015-11-19T13:11:39Z")
Thanks for the awesome summary Mobopedia 😉. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/6 "2015-11-19T19:04:38Z")
Hey I was one of those doom and gloom guys in the new rev versions. This mix took a little longer to test than previous versions. Part of the initial response is because in general the mix does seem to be more “friendly”. In fact there is actually a trust boost with this mix that is unexpected and makes the mix feel more “beta”. I was originally going to send mine back however I have found a great use for it in consulting situations. It does work better with women than men though in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/7 "2015-11-19T19:18:12Z")
I agree with you on that one Risen, I definitely had more clear A314 hits this far with women. They seem more receptive to it. The product acts in a more subtle way with men. ---
**Author:** ![Basileus168](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Basileus168](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Basileus168)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/8 "2015-11-19T21:49:00Z")
> [@RisenAlpha](#): > > Hey I was one of those doom and gloom guys in the new rev versions. This mix took a little longer to test than previous versions. Part of the initial response is because in general the mix does seem to be more “friendly”. In fact there is actually a trust boost with this mix that is unexpected and makes the mix feel more “beta”. I was originally going to send mine back however I have found a great use for it in consulting situations. It does work better with women than men though in my opinion. Beta? Could you elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/9 "2015-11-19T22:20:42Z")
> [@RisenAlpha](#): > > Hey I was one of those doom and gloom guys in the new rev versions. This mix took a little longer to test than previous versions. Part of the initial response is because in general the mix does seem to be more “friendly”. In fact there is actually a trust boost with this mix that is unexpected and makes the mix feel more “beta”. I was originally going to send mine back however I have found a great use for it in consulting situations. It does work better with women than men though in my opinion. Its only beta if you let it be and don’t back-up the alpha aspects of the signature with congruent behaviour. And yes, trust/confidence is very apparent with this one - The head of my org has become a different person to me since being exposed to Royale. In fact its scary how relaxed and pleasant he’s become around me - Everyone else incl his own personal staff walk on eggshells around the guy and he tends to be remote, aloof and a bit of an arsehole to everyone except the most top-drawer people and me! And I also think I’m getting the fastest developing fallout I’ve yet had with this Rev - She’s up to 5/6 exposures and getting very openly physical/comfortable the last two. In fact tonight it was a close run thing between her giving me a good stroke and a developed fallout just happening upon me at one of my haunts in town Five minutes earlier and it could have been interesting. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/10 "2015-11-20T03:19:15Z")
I agree that the new version of A314 has immense fallout capability. I’m actually somewhat nervous about that feature. This new version seems to create more integration into a group an trust quickly. The issue is if you are expecting a mix that will create a separation from the group as a strong alpha that must be acknowledged you will be disappointed as I was. Instead what you end up with is a mix that gives a trusted leader or advisor that is a part of the group vibe. The difference is familiarity. It’s not that familiarity is beta it’s that the familiarity isn’t confrontational, intimidating, or dominating. Familiarity is actually a good thing if that’s what you are expecting. But if you aren’t expecting it, It feels like a loss of respect. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/11 "2015-11-20T14:25:08Z")
Thanks RisenAlpha, I was thinking I wasn’t going to get A314 the oil because it wasn’t as good and how you explained things have really changed my mine about it. I now actually think that the royal V1 will be even more usable then the Rev 32 I have. My wife is really closed off so I don’t dare use the Rev 32 around here as this makes it worse so I strictly stuck to work use. Now with this new version I feel like I can wear this daily when I order it makes sense. This post has really opened my eyes and makes sense now and I can see why HankBuddy is having so much luck with other men and dating with this version. I have to ask is thing similar to steer with other molecules like the Rev 32 is? If I don’t like this newer version I am guessing I can just add something to it to make it more similar to Rev 32. A special thanks to Mobocaster and RisenAlpha for opening my eyes on this new version as I may not have ordered it till now. I will put it on my wishlist. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/12 "2015-11-20T15:31:06Z")
Re: requests to transfer this thread, I have to know first what’s the thought of the thread starter about it. Maybe his original intent is to make this his A314 testing journal. And since a number of responses have been posted after his post, I want to see first how he will respond or react to those. I want to know what’s running on the thread starter’s mind when he typed in the thread title: is he posing a question? Does the responses above answered it? Or is he posing a statement? If so, what would be his response to the posts above? This is important to me because I will ask him to polish his thread title first before I transfer it, if he ever ask for it. Otherwise, if he kept his silence, I will assume that he does not want it transferred, not want a thread title change, and that this thread is his A314 journal. Anyway, it attracted proper attention alright. I see some checking the thread in the background, so I guess, this is fine here. 🙂 And I’m subscribed! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-older-a314-revisions-work-better-rev-31-rev-32-and-the-current-royale/65226/13 "2015-11-20T15:37:50Z")
I’ve only used Royale, so I can’t speak about previous versions. I’ve used it solo several times, and I’ve noticed that it has a slight intimidating effect with straight men in the sense that they fumble in doing their jobs correctly. Women are very friendly with me. My sweet spot is two drops. I’ve used this on a couple dates with a guy I recently met, and we’ve had an amazingly strong connection both times. He was initially intimidated by my level of confidence, but got over it once we got back to his place and chatted more intimately. But, even then, when he and I went to play pool on our second date, he really was off his game. I thought he would kick my butt at pool since I hadn’t played in over 20 years and he’s played regularly, but I won all three rounds. I suspect A314 affected him, but it sure didn’t affect him later at his place, at least not adversely! I have an LGBT social tomorrow evening, and I plan to use A314 there with IShine (4x). I’ll write about in my journal later. This guy will be there too, so it’ll be interesting!