# Did the LS forum die...

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 2, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069 "2008-05-02T01:18:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/21 "2008-05-02T14:17:10Z")

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you know what i find amazing, is that andronotics will allow you to speak about other products on their forums, that speaks volumes about this company!!!

I was interested in the Scent of Eros becuase it was oil based and has nols in it, I do like oil, since I do not have to worry about refreshing my sprays if I am out and forget my sprays I always have something on me. But I am not sure if it is worth it for me to be honest. Is it overkill to have Scent of Eros + Instant Honesty + [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)?

Also I was really interested in Realm since I noticed Godhand mentioned in other thread that it contained EST. I noticed EST is always out in the store here, and I see EST is in Realm. Is it worth getting? No idea what EST is but it must be good. How is the scent? Will it mix good with other products I own in my signature?

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**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/22 "2008-05-02T15:45:24Z")

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I would not recommend SOE if you have IH and IO. I think you have plenty of social mones at this point. Now when they run out, you may want to get SOE. I have the scented version and love the scent. Others may not. I have been using SOE for a bit now but am interested in trying the social mones at this place.

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/23 "2008-05-02T15:53:56Z")

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> [@jayzee327](#):
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> I would not recommend Scent of Eros if you have Instant Honesty and Instant Openness. I think you have plenty of social pheromones at this point. Now when they run out, you may want to get Scent of Eros. I have the scented version and love the scent. Others may not. I have been using Scent of Eros for a bit now but am interested in trying the social pheromones at this place.

Thanks for the info!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/24 "2008-05-02T19:25:20Z")

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> Im a hunk a hunk a burning love, so the Scent of Eros should diffuse quickly. LOL.

ROFL That was so cute you get hugs and reps for making me smile.  
(((((JAY)))))

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> you know what i find amazing, is that andronotics will allow you to speak about other products on their forums, that speaks volumes about this company!!!

Yep you can pretty much talk about every other [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) but you cant post the link or company name. We all know how to use google though. LS is cool to talk about, they are a good company. You may even see the maker of Scent of Eros here in the forum James stops by often with his brillant insights.

Realm is not a bad product, Its been around a while and has subtle effects. Yes it does have est in it and if I recall correctly MHarris spoke well of it.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/25 "2008-05-02T20:59:30Z")

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I wish there was only 1 product that offered all the pheromones in it. So instead of having to use 3 or 4 diff products.

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/26 "2008-05-02T22:15:39Z")

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> [@akamahyar](#):
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> I wish there was only 1 product that offered all the pheromones in it. So instead of having to use 3 or 4 diff products.

**168 Products and 5504 Items online**

LOL 😃

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**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/27 "2008-05-02T23:14:16Z")

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> [@akamahyar](#):
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> I wish there was only 1 product that offered all the pheromones in it. So instead of having to use 3 or 4 diff products.

Naaah, that would take all the fun out we have with experimenting!!!

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/28 "2008-05-02T23:26:31Z")

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> [@akamahyar](#):
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> I wish there was only 1 product that offered all the pheromones in it. So instead of having to use 3 or 4 diff products.

a314 much?

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**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/29 "2008-05-03T01:56:10Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Yep you can pretty much talk about every other pheromone product but you can post the link or company name. We all know how to use google though. LS is cool to talk about, they are a good company. You may even see the maker of Scent of Eros here in the forum James stops by often with his brillant insights.
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> Realm is not a bad product, Its been around a while and has subtle effects. Yes it does have est in it and if I recall correctly MHarris spoke well of it.

The ingredients in the Realm product line have been studied by other researchers who are not associated with the marketing of any other product. There are links to abstracts, and some full text articles from my site. No one has found any affect on behavior of the Realm ingredients, though there are several reports of effects on physiology, and subjective ratings. I’ve presented findings at scientific conferences on the combination of ingredients in Scent of Eros (for men, and the unscented version) but will wait until the study results are published to comment further. It’s not a good idea for any researcher to make claims that are unsupported by published research.

You’ll hear more from me here, since I was “permanently” banned from the LS forum several months ago. In any case, I stay busy keeping up with the latest research, as well as with my own research and presentations.

James V. Kohl  
`http://www.pheromones.com`

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/30 "2008-05-03T02:32:03Z")

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> [@jvkohl](#):
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> You’ll hear more from me here, since I was “permanently” banned from the LS forum several months ago.

Many have been banned over there…due to too many moderators I guess!

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**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/31 "2008-05-03T02:41:00Z")

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> [@denec](#):
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> you know what i find amazing, is that andronotics will allow you to speak about other products on their forums, that speaks volumes about this company!!!
> 
> I was interested in the Scent of Eros becuase it was oil based and has nols in it, I do like oil, since I do not have to worry about refreshing my sprays if I am out and forget my sprays I always have something on me. But I am not sure if it is worth it for me to be honest. Is it overkill to have Scent of Eros + Instant Honesty + Instant Openness?
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> Also I was really interested in Realm since I noticed Godhand mentioned in other thread that it contained EST. I noticed EST is always out in the store here, and I see EST is in Realm. Is it worth getting? No idea what EST is but it must be good. How is the scent? Will it mix good with other products I own in my signature?

Realm Men does have EST, but a very small amount of it. While the Androtics version is 50 mcg per spray, Realm Men only contains about 2.5 mcg of EST per spray (If I remember correctly…it may have been 5 mcg). But you get the drift. The Androtics version is 10-20 times stronger than the EST content found in Realm. Hence, my excessive amount of sprays of Realm in my mixes. Also, the scent to Realm Men is very subtle after it dries a little, so you can use a ton of sprays without it overpowering people.

But Realm Men and Liquid Trust are the only two LS products that I can co-sign on. I haven’t gotten around to trying Impi but I’ve been thinking about ordering some next time.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/32 "2008-05-03T08:57:51Z")

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I enjoyed Realm for years. The EST content didn’t do much for me–too little or subtle? However I loved spiking it with chemset pheromones such as androstenone, androstanone, androstenol and A-1. It also dresses up nicely with spicy EOs such as clove and citrus.

I used IMPI for a summer a couple years back. It’s okay, similar to a mellowed out The Edge. CAn’t say I liked the scent as it reminded me of perfumed hippie soap. For much less money I prefer unscented The Edge over IMPI but many have claimed great results.

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**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/33 "2008-05-03T10:14:51Z")

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yeah where r all the big guns??? catlord tater etc.???

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2008, 11:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/34 "2008-05-03T11:02:13Z")

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As far as I know Tater never posted on the LS forum. Unless he used another name. Catlord lurks around still, I have seen him occasionally.

Just because you cant see them dosnt mean they are not there. You cant see my name at the bottom of the forum either. 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/35 "2008-05-05T22:27:09Z")

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> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#):
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> Many have been banned over there…due to too many moderators I guess!

The only people I’ve banned over there are pure and simple SPAMMERS, and you’ll never know because the SPAM is removed. When a regular long term poster is banned it is only after long discussion among the mods, and then only for the most _serious_ infractions, e.g. flaming another member, religious war or some such. \<edit\> _And after several warnings_. _The same stuff that would get you tossed here._

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**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/36 "2008-05-05T22:35:04Z")

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This is directed to Mr. Kohl. How can you be banned from the LS forum, yet they sell your product SOE which many people love at LS. Im confused.

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**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/37 "2008-05-05T23:07:40Z")

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I wouldn’t mind hearing the answer to this question as well.

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/38 "2008-05-05T23:11:58Z")

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> [@jayzee327](#):
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> This is directed to Mr. Kohl. How can you be banned from the LS forum, yet they sell your product Scent of Eros which many people love at LS. Im confused.

I thnk LS will ban us if we talk good about other products (not LS products).

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/39 "2008-05-06T00:34:07Z")

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> [@jamesbonded](#):
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> I thnk LS will ban us if we talk good about other products (not LS products).

Nope, Bruce merely edits your prose! I’ve mentioned Androtics products at LS many times only to find them strangely MIA.

As for JVK, he engaged in repeated and long term fighting with HEC and DOC before he earned his stripes. I recall many warnings going on for months before the axe fell. HEC was also banned and his products were still sold…

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-the-ls-forum-die/12069/40 "2008-05-06T01:15:57Z")

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Perhaps people are banned in certain forums due to certain reasons, but if differential of views and perceptions, moderately presented are among the reasons, then they should ban those in the United Nations as well!🙂

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