# Did you guys see this? And what do you think? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [April 23, 2009, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305 "2009-04-23T11:50:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/21 "2009-04-24T19:14:57Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > Uber Skunkworks > > Diane šŸ˜‰šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/22 "2009-04-24T19:20:16Z")
What the? BRAINWASHED!!! > [@Lor](#): > > i had this friend in highschool. > > he was my _best_ friend. > we talked conspiracy theory > we talked aliens, > experiences, > drugs, > rocknroll, > he ate at my house for dinner, even if i wasnt home (heā€™d hang out with dad) > he was my second brother,no lie. > > years later he joined the airforce. > > on the phone, i said > DUDE! tell me if i was right all along! > lets gab about what your coworkers see in the sky! > > he says ā€œwe cant do thatā€ > > i laugh > oh cā€™mon,are you serious? its me,dude! why not? > > he says ā€œweā€™re done talkingā€ > > we dont talk anymore. > _ever._ > > šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/23 "2009-04-24T19:26:59Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > What the? BRAINWASHED!!! ā€¦ I wouldnā€™t be so quick to jump to that. We never know what experiences make someone tick, or have them make the choices that they make. Iā€™ve made choices in my line of work that utterly removed me from one life and put in a totally new one. Like, a _totally_ new one. (Not witness protection.) I lost my family. I lost my friends. Forever. And yes, as silly as it sounds to some of you, I did it for my country. Itā€™s a price we pay, at times. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/24 "2009-04-24T19:31:56Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > I will say this: > > I work with an agency that has two of their agents/personnel posted to Area 51. (for those of you who dont know, thatā€™s the ā€œnicknameā€ for a real air force testing base. Thatā€™s not secret.) > > They have a blank check budget. > They report _directly_ to the director - no one else > They have uber high clearance (Q and above) > Once youā€™re in that position, youā€™re there for a loooong time > They wear suits _every day_ (men in black??) šŸ˜‰ > They are driven to work by a private government car every single day > > Let fly with your theories šŸ™‚ Are you sure they drive in? From what I do know, most A51 employees are flown in. Thereā€™s not much around A51 to drive from and most ā€œUSAFā€ soldiers are flown in from a base in Nevada.šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/25 "2009-04-24T19:33:37Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > ā€¦ I wouldnā€™t be so quick to jump to that. > > We never know what experiences make someone tick, or have them make the choices that they make. > > Iā€™ve made choices in my line of work that utterly removed me from one life and put in a totally new one. Like, a _totally_ new one. (Not witness protection.) > > I lost my family. I lost my friends. Forever. > > And yes, as silly as it sounds to some of you, I did it for my country. > > Itā€™s a price we pay, at times. Agree. There is the issue of sensitive information and security clearances, and whatnot. Sometime you have to do things that are personally distasteful or even painful. I think we canā€™t judge him because we just donā€™t have enough information. It is tragic, though. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/26 "2009-04-24T19:34:13Z")
Splitting hair as usual, Steveā€¦ šŸ˜‰ Yes, ā€œdrivenā€ in the sense of picked up at home, driven to an airfield, flown in on their own ā€œspeshulā€ plane, and driven from there. And reverse to go home. ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/27 "2009-04-24T19:49:25Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i had this friend in highschool. > > he was my _best_ friend. > we talked conspiracy theory > we talked aliens, > experiences, > drugs, > rocknroll, > he ate at my house for dinner, even if i wasnt home (heā€™d hang out with dad) > he was my second brother,no lie. > > years later he joined the airforce. > > on the phone, i said > DUDE! tell me if i was right all along! > lets gab about what your coworkers see in the sky! > > he says ā€œwe cant do thatā€ > > i laugh > oh cā€™mon,are you serious? its me,dude! why not? > > he says ā€œweā€™re done talkingā€ > > we dont talk anymore. > _ever._ > > šŸ˜‰ If he were to tell you anything about what his airforce buddies and himself see and do on a regular basis, most likely he would risk life imprisonment or death, and there would be a massive cover-up and almost nobody would know what truely happened to him. I am guessing he is also hiding information to keep you safe as well. If you donā€™t know anything about what he does, and what he sees, youā€™ll be kept free from the lifestyle that they have to go through, for choosing such a career and learning such valuable and top-secret info. šŸ˜‰ Rule #1: Donā€™t ever be on the bad side of the government. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/28 "2009-04-24T19:50:17Z")
Yeah, I was just yoking. I bet itā€™s only something that you can clearly understand once you have it actually happen to you, like for example who knows what Lorā€™s friend had to see, or endure in order for his change to happen. Maybe he had to change for his better, and in order for him to accustom himself better/a lot easier? > [@Tigerlilly](#): > > ā€¦ I wouldnā€™t be so quick to jump to that. > > We never know what experiences make someone tick, or have them make the choices that they make. > > Iā€™ve made choices in my line of work that utterly removed me from one life and put in a totally new one. Like, a _totally_ new one. (Not witness protection.) > > I lost my family. I lost my friends. Forever. > > And yes, as silly as it sounds to some of you, I did it for my country. > > Itā€™s a price we pay, at times. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/29 "2009-04-24T19:51:03Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > What the? BRAINWASHED!!! Not brainwashed but loyal and maybe even a bit frightful of the non-disclosure agreements. I mean how many of us have been in the service of their government. I have, and I can assure you I spent an entire month after my release signing docs stating that discussion of company secrets, even if future declassification occurs, is considered treason and is punishable by prison and in many cases DEATH. I worked with NBCR (I think it CBRN now) US Army SOF Technical Escort and there was NO joking around about it. Off the job, that was mostly a blur of Tequila šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/30 "2009-04-24T19:51:58Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Yeah, I was just yoking. I bet itā€™s only something that you can clearly understand once you have it actually happen to you, like for example who knows what Lorā€™s friend had to see, or endure in order for his change to happen. Maybe he had to change for his better, and in order for him to accustom himself better/a lot easier? Or maybe it is as simple as being under orders. Insubordination and failure to comply in the military is not a light matter. Diane ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/31 "2009-04-24T19:52:29Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Splitting hair as usual, Steveā€¦ šŸ˜‰ > > Yes, ā€œdrivenā€ in the sense of picked up at home, driven to an airfield, flown in on their own ā€œspeshulā€ plane, and driven from there. And reverse to go home. I was messing with yah šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/32 "2009-04-24T19:57:49Z")
Fuck yeah, I donā€™t want to die! šŸ˜› So itā€™s understandable for the person that has to keep secrets or change his lifestyle for his job classification, itā€™ll be easier for him to deal with the change because of said information meant to be kept secret. However, Iā€™m sure that itā€™s hard to understand for the others (in this case Lor.) Iā€™m sure she knows that itā€™s something he has to do of course, considering his job classification but Iā€™m sure it still sucks she lost a friend. But as mentioned, itā€™s either you snitch or risk something far more serious. And now since weā€™re talking about conspiracies and whatnot, this brings me to a question for Tiger. šŸ˜› Whatā€™s the deal with said ā€œconcentrationā€ camps in the US? _Eerie music in background._ > [@Steve](#): > > Not brainwashed but loyal and maybe even a bit frightful of the non-disclosure agreements. > > I mean how many of us have been in the service of their government. I have, and I can assure you I spent an entire month after my release signing docs stating that discussion of company secrets, even if future declassification occurs, is considered treason and is punishable by prison and in many cases DEATH. > > I worked with NBCR (I think it CBRN now) US Army SOF Technical Escort and there was NO joking around about it. > > Off the job, that was mostly a blur of Tequila šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/33 "2009-04-24T20:00:47Z")
I bet! Once you sign the dotted line youā€™re in. Loose lips sink ships. > [@diane999](#): > > Or maybe it is as simple as being under orders. Insubordination and failure to comply in the military is not a light matter. > > Diane ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/34 "2009-04-24T20:08:21Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > And now since weā€™re talking about conspiracies and whatnot, this brings me to a question for Tiger. šŸ˜› > > Whatā€™s the deal with said ā€œconcentrationā€ camps in the US? _Eerie music in background._ Pack your bags, buddy! Iā€™m coming to get you! Youā€™ll soon find outā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/35 "2009-04-24T20:20:42Z")
Fuck LOL. _Sprays you with P91._ Not after that you wonā€™t LOL! > [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Pack your bags, buddy! Iā€™m coming to get you! > > Youā€™ll soon find outā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/36 "2009-04-24T20:34:49Z")
Be careful what you wish for, lol. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/37 "2009-04-25T15:05:23Z")
this is very long and drawn out (you dont get to mitchell for a minute and a half into it) but this is the ā€œlectureā€ he made recently. he leaves you _no doubt_ where he stands. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/c/c493d3687c6a622fda65f29c30dcc4716a8d8bda.jpeg "Edgar Mitchell on UFOs at Press Conference") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO66afmxWKA) ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/38 "2009-05-01T14:24:41Z")
another reason why people dont talk on the phone about this stuff lol [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/7/76ac0b19b7a6eb4f18318c25922de0315aa5cc63.jpeg "Software helps invade privacy by tapping your cell phone") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCyKcoDaofg) ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/39 "2009-05-01T15:06:00Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > another reason why people dont talk on the phone about this stuff lol > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCyKcoDaofg](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCyKcoDaofg) wow.. that is seriously fucked. Thankfully, the FBI does take this kind of thing very seriously and their field agents are a very helpful lot. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305/40 "2009-05-01T15:10:55Z")
wayyyyy better edgar mitchel interview. this interview blew my mind lol https://www.youtube.com/embed/-aXoQkID97A?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/did-you-guys-see-this-and-what-do-you-think/28305.md?page=3)