# Didn't believe it before...now I do! My experience after 3 months **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 18, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906 "2012-06-18T23:33:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jumbojim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jumbojim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jumbojim)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/1 "2012-06-18T23:33:06Z")
I bought Ammunition and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) like everyone recommended. I’m not a stranger to picking up women and dating after reading through Neil Strauss and others, but my goal is to attract the 8s and 9s instead of 7s. I wasn’t always great at picking up girls, I didn’t even get my first kiss till 18! I’m 25 now. The first night I wore Ammo and IS and went clubbing with friends. Ended up meeting a hot asian girl, certainly a 9, and she said I smelled good. She was complying with everything that I asked, and surprisingly receptive. Saw her the next night…and the night after and we ended up dating for a month. Although things ended I was happy to have dated such a beautiful and quality girl. The next time I wore this combo at the club, I was again successful in kissing a hot girl very quickly, she was an 8, was within our group, and again told me I smelled good. I wore it on a date with her the next day, and she told me something interesting a week later. She said the way I smelled that night we met, it made her lose control of herself, and she had a hard time controlling her urges, and asked me to not wear that cologne again! We dated for about 3 weeks but in the end I wanted someone with a better personality and more interesting. Last week I used up the rest of my small bottle of ammunition, and went clubbing. There was a cute brunette girl I liked the moment I saw her in our group. A 9 and borderline 10. She had guys all over her the whole night and we didn’t really talk while pregaming since I was afraid, but at one point i thought I’m just going to go for it. While dancing I made sure she can sniff my neck, and right on cue she told me that I smelled good. After about 10 minutes of flirting, we were making out. I think a girl telling me I smell good is one of the best IOIs out there, but I wasn’t quite sure if it was Ammo or Diesel Fuel For Life that I mixed in. Conclusion: Ammo smells amazing, and every girl that i’ve asked has liked it. I’m not so sure Instant Shine did anything for me, as I didn’t notice a huge difference when I had it on and not. I think I’ve accomplished my goal of reaching out and not be as afraid of 8s and 9s, whereas I used to be terrified. Not every girl that I hooked up with the last few months I was using pheremones though. Just cologne does the trick fine, but Ammo certainly does give me a boost of confidence. I’d like to try the other products that are popular here as well, and try to pick up only 9s and 10s from here on. Thank you pheromone talk! -Jimmy ---
**Author:** ![dabu11et11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dabu11et11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dabu11et11)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/2 "2012-06-19T04:38:10Z")
How many sprays do you usually use? ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/3 "2012-06-19T16:54:24Z")
What scent of ammo? ---
**Author:** ![jumbojim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jumbojim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jumbojim)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/4 "2012-06-19T17:23:38Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > What scent of ammo? I only used 1 to 2 sprays at a time of each. Sometimes I’d mix it with another cologne like Diesel or Curve if I’m going to a crowded place, but only [pheromones](https://a314.com/) for a date setting. Just ordered another bottle of Ammo and TUTH today! ---
**Author:** ![jumbojim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jumbojim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jumbojim)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/5 "2012-06-19T17:25:36Z")
Oh, I’m not sure what scent of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), it was just the to go spray version of it from androtics direct. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/6 "2012-06-19T20:52:54Z")
> [@jumbojim](#): > > Oh, I’m not sure what scent of Ammo, it was just the to go spray version of it from androtics direct. Sounds like ff21… you’re one of the first people to say it smells amazing 😮 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/7 "2012-06-22T12:34:46Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Sounds like ff21… you’re one of the first people to say it smells amazing 😮 Well, let me be the second! IT SMELLS AMAZING! 😉 My next order of AMMO is going to be 1 of FF21 and 1 of [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/). Gotta see what everybody’s talking about, and see if Akuto blows my hair back. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/8 "2012-07-09T15:58:13Z")
M&M… You’ve got HAIR!!! 😛 FF21 has it’s fair share of supporter’s for sure. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sacase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@sacase](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sacase)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/9 "2012-07-09T16:49:30Z")
> [@jumbojim](#): > > I bought Ammunition and Instant Shine like everyone recommended. I’m not a stranger to picking up women and dating after reading through Neil Strauss and others, but my goal is to attract the 8s and 9s instead of 7s. I wasn’t always great at picking up girls, I didn’t even get my first kiss till 18! I’m 25 now. > > The first night I wore Ammo and IS and went clubbing with friends. Ended up meeting a hot asian girl, certainly a 9, and she said I smelled good. She was complying with everything that I asked, and surprisingly receptive. Saw her the next night…and the night after and we ended up dating for a month. Although things ended I was happy to have dated such a beautiful and quality girl. > > The next time I wore this combo at the club, I was again successful in kissing a hot girl very quickly, she was an 8, was within our group, and again told me I smelled good. I wore it on a date with her the next day, and she told me something interesting a week later. She said the way I smelled that night we met, it made her lose control of herself, and she had a hard time controlling her urges, and asked me to not wear that cologne again! We dated for about 3 weeks but in the end I wanted someone with a better personality and more interesting. > > Last week I used up the rest of my small bottle of ammunition, and went clubbing. There was a cute brunette girl I liked the moment I saw her in our group. A 9 and borderline 10. She had guys all over her the whole night and we didn’t really talk while pregaming since I was afraid, but at one point i thought I’m just going to go for it. While dancing I made sure she can sniff my neck, and right on cue she told me that I smelled good. After about 10 minutes of flirting, we were making out. I think a girl telling me I smell good is one of the best IOIs out there, but I wasn’t quite sure if it was Ammo or Diesel Fuel For Life that I mixed in. > > Conclusion: Ammo smells amazing, and every girl that i’ve asked has liked it. I’m not so sure Instant Shine did anything for me, as I didn’t notice a huge difference when I had it on and not. I think I’ve accomplished my goal of reaching out and not be as afraid of 8s and 9s, whereas I used to be terrified. Not every girl that I hooked up with the last few months I was using pheremones though. Just cologne does the trick fine, but Ammo certainly does give me a boost of confidence. I’d like to try the other products that are popular here as well, and try to pick up only 9s and 10s from here on. Thank you pheromone talk! > > -Jimmy The biggest thing when dealing with women is confidence. 9’s and 10’s don’t get a whole lot of attention because people are either intimidated or think they have someone. I have always been one to walk up to the hottest woman in the room and strike up a convo. They respond to a genuine approach very well. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/10 "2012-07-09T17:41:38Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > M&M… You’ve got HAIR!!! 😛 > > FF21 has it’s fair share of supporter’s for sure. > > 🙂 Chure’dew, and I h’ain’t telling you where, either!! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/11 "2012-07-10T02:00:07Z")
Strangely enough ammo has never given me such great responses. It could be because of my age.. I just find its just a chill product and nothing more. IS always makes people happy and me sometimes happy. A314 is a leadership and LTR mone and provides status and that certainly works for me. I guess I’m a classical man, and not a ONS man. I need bonding before I feel comfortable pursuing a woman or I get discouraged. . if a woman is cold no matter how good her body or looks I lose interest. ---
**Author:** ![chress93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5e9695/32.png) [@chress93](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chress93)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/12 "2012-07-10T07:04:54Z")
AMMO smells great, strong at first, but when it settles, you are good to go was also thinking of ordering another AMMO in [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) or IG in Akuto, any opinions? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/14 "2012-07-10T12:35:40Z")
Awesome hits, but give yourself most of the credit for actually taking innitiative. Not many men find it easy to manage to do what you did (go up to a girl.) As far as the AMMO goes, do you think the hits you received were cologne/scent hits (like just the scent of AMMO itself?) or would you say that they in fact were the pheromones that induced the hits? Here’s how I perceive purely pheromone hits, IOI that are not related to scent. Like a girl staring at you with the deer in the headlights look, a girl saying “Hi, John Doe…” to you in such a way that it also appears like she’s literally staring deep into your soul with her direct eye to eye contact while also saying her “Hi” to you in an almost seductive tone of voice, and many other types of physical IOI. The problem with the “You smell amazing!” IOI is that it is hard to tell if she’s interested in you because the pheromones got to her, or because she just does like the scent alone? When I used to wear just Curve alone a long time ago, this girl I used to see would go wild just by the smell of it. She would always tell me to wear it just because of how much the scent turned her on, so this IOI has always remained a tricky one to decipher for me after I started dabbling with pheromones. Which is why I would just judge if a certain MX worked by the type of non-scent IOI I would receive and then perceive. Scent alone can sometimes be so amazing, the power of scent is quite powerful. A scent can be pretty photographic. ---
**Author:** ![MatrixSpace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@MatrixSpace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MatrixSpace)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/15 "2012-07-11T19:13:10Z")
[quote=“jumbojim, post:1, topic:55906”] I bought Ammunition and Instant Shine like everyone recommended. I’m not a stranger to picking up women and dating after reading through Neil Strauss and others, but my goal is to attract the 8s and 9s instead of 7s. I wasn’t always great at picking up girls, I didn’t even get my first kiss till 18! I’m 25 now. The first night I wore Ammo and IS and went clubbing with friends. Ended up meeting a hot asian girl, certainly a 9, and she said I smelled good. She was complying with everything that I asked, and surprisingly receptive. Saw her the next night…and the night after and we ended up dating for a month. Although things ended I was happy to have dated such a beautiful and quality girl. The next time I wore this combo at the club, I was again successful in kissing a hot girl very quickly, she was an 8, was within our group, and again told me I smelled good. I wore it on a date with her the next day, and she told me something interesting a week later. She said the way I smelled that night we met, it made her lose control of herself, and she had a hard time controlling her urges, and asked me to not wear that cologne again! We dated for about 3 weeks but in the end I wanted someone with a better personality and more interesting. Last week I used up the rest of my small bottle of ammunition, and went clubbing. There was a cute brunette girl I liked the moment I saw her in our group. A 9 and borderline 10. She had guys all over her the whole night and we didn’t really talk while pregaming since I was afraid, but at one point i thought I’m just going to go for it. While dancing I made sure she can sniff my neck, and right on cue she told me that I smelled good. After about 10 minutes of flirting, we were making out. I think a girl telling me I smell good is one of the best IOIs out there, but I wasn’t quite sure if it was Ammo or Diesel Fuel For Life that I mixed in. Conclusion: Ammo smells amazing, and every girl that i’ve asked has liked it. I’m not so sure Instant Shine did anything for me, as I didn’t notice a huge difference when I had it on and not. I think I’ve accomplished my goal of reaching out and not be as afraid of 8s and 9s, whereas I used to be terrified. Not every girl that I hooked up with the last few months I was using pheremones though. Just cologne does the trick fine, but Ammo certainly does give me a boost of confidence. I’d like to try the other products that are popular here as well, and try to pick up only 9s and 10s from here on. Thank you pheromone talk! -Jimmy/quote In my experience pheromones plus good scent complement each other and are both effective, good scent is necessary for the pheromones to do their best impact. Were you able to make out with the first 2 girls or you only dated them? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/16 "2012-07-11T20:48:35Z")
How many sprays of each did you use, Matrix? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![MatrixSpace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@MatrixSpace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MatrixSpace)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/17 "2012-07-11T22:07:31Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > How many sprays of each did you use, Matrix? > > Thanks! It’s not my original post, it’s from Jumbojim, I was replying to his post and the quote box didn’t appear. ---
**Author:** ![Unique](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unique/32/935_2.png) [@Unique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Unique)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/didnt-believe-it-before-now-i-do-my-experience-after-3-months/55906/18 "2012-07-29T03:00:15Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Strangely enough ammo has never given me such great responses. It could be because of my age.. I just find its just a chill product and nothing more. > > IS always makes people happy and me sometimes happy. A314 is a leadership and LTR mone and provides status and that certainly works for me. > > I guess I’m a classical man, and not a ONS man. > > I need bonding before I feel comfortable pursuing a woman or I get discouraged. . if a woman is cold no matter how good her body or looks I lose interest. Haha I get the exact same There are so many dudes that will continue to pursue these girls purely based on their look I get strange reactions when I instantly lose interest in bitchy type girls, the guys don’t understand it and the bitchy girl is even more confused cause most guys give her heaps of attention