# Difficulty using IS and TUTH **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 21, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/difficulty-using-is-and-tuth/4747 "2007-07-21T17:46:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/difficulty-using-is-and-tuth/4747/5 "2007-07-21T18:01:06Z")
It sounds like a -none overdose. You don’t mention your age or the age of the ladies. From the Turn Up The Heat product page > [@](#): > > **Important:** This is potent product. If you are a first time user, get the lowest strength version. Less is often more with _Turn Up The Heat_. Using too much can be perceived as you “coming on too strong”, which can be as bad as not coming on at all. > We recommend you always start on the low side, and never exceed 5 sprays at a time maximum. Be aware the higher the dose, the higher the age range of women you’ll attract. Lower is best for younger women. Note you’re using 2x so the recommended max goes down from 5 to 2.5. And that’s for old guys with decreased natural -none production. There’s a reason the 1x strength is the recommended one on the product page. You may also want to read: > [@Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159): > > Ok. Feel free to correct any errors I may have made. This took forever to write, so I hope you like it. Chapter 1 Alpha Androstenone: In the forum this is commonly referred to as –none or none. It is a hormone produced in men and women’s sweat. (significantly less if women) “Androstenone is the first mammalian pheromone to be identified.” ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone)) Androstenone has the ability to cause arousal in women during their ovulation. It also has the ability cause irr… --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/difficulty-using-is-and-tuth/4747)._