# Disappointed - am not convinced yet **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [May 17, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disappointed-am-not-convinced-yet/12733 "2008-05-17T10:51:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jonb16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@jonb16](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jonb16)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disappointed-am-not-convinced-yet/12733/1 "2008-05-17T10:51:58Z")
I’m new to Andriotics and after some weeks of reading the forums, I took the plunge and picked up my bottle of A314 and sample TUTH last weekend. I have been wearing A314 (2 drops) on the wrists and neck at work and haven’t noticed any effects. I find the smell repulsive to start with (and get a sore throat!) but it does fade after a while. Infact the smell puts me off wearing it! I haven’t had a chance to test TUTH yet but have tried another brand equivalent before and found that to effective. I don’t notice any scent in TUTH but A314 really does smell like old socks underneath the oil scent. Does anybody have any advice for a new user like me? It would be much appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spoons/32/1938_2.png) [@Spoons](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disappointed-am-not-convinced-yet/12733/2 "2008-05-17T12:49:23Z")
With me, I don’t notice “hits” with A314 - however it’s definitely working very well. I’ve used it almost daily at work for about 6 months (those bottles last forever) with generally 2-3 drops around the neck. The main thing I notice are the self effects. My voice becomes deeper, I stand up straighter, and I do everything with more confidence and more deliberately. When there’s a crisis or something happens that would make me uncomfortable, I seem to be able to handle it gracefully and masterfully, with the A314. I notice a generally higher level of respect from everyone. People treat me as if I’m more important than I am, and when I speak people hang on my every word. When I’m with female work colleagues they seem to look up to me like I’m the only “real” man around, and get closer than they would normally, and the self-effects tend to make me very comfortable with that, whereas normally it might make me a little nervous. When I don’t wear A314, these effects don’t happen. However with strangers I’m not sure I’ve noticed anything - perhaps a little more eye contact than normal, which I generally attribute to the self effects making me appear more confident. So perhaps don’t search for “hits”…just look for subtle general changes in attitude towards you. It’s also right what others have said - you can’t just wear A314 and expect it to work like magic. You need to live the part. Hope that helps! ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disappointed-am-not-convinced-yet/12733/3 "2008-05-17T17:11:14Z")
> [@jonb16](#): > > I have been wearing A314 (2 drops) on the wrists and neck at work and haven’t noticed any effects. I find the smell repulsive to start with (and get a sore throat!) but it does fade after a while. Infact the smell puts me off wearing it! OK, for starters, if the smell is that repulsive to you, then you should cover it with a cologne. Granted, you will first need to allow it to dry down for a couple of minutes after application. Second, have you tried varying the dosage? You need to test at different levels to find your sweet spot. Try increasing to 3 drops, then 4, and see if you don’t start noticing effects at a bit higher dosage. However, you should not have to exceed 4 or 5 drops, before seeing results. Last, When using A314 you have to try to project yourself as a confident and in charge alpha male, because that’s the signature you are projecting. If you were to wear A314 then project yourself as weak and easily intimidated, the phero signature doesn’t match with what people are seeing and simply gets ignored. I’m not saying that you are weak, just citing an example. A314 is really a great product, but it can take a little time and experimentation to get it to work for you. Best of luck with it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disappointed-am-not-convinced-yet/12733/4 "2008-05-17T21:02:11Z")
Going to reiterate what Mark said. You need to project a congruent image to the aura of A314. If you don’t look, act and walk confident, it won’t do much for you. With A314, you’re not going to get as many “sexual” hits unless they are attracted to the pheros in A314. It is mainly a respect, alpha male [pheromone](https://a314.com/). Also keep in mind that A314 is a “dark” serious pheromone mix. It can create respect, but it can also intimidate. I hated the way it smelled too. I wore it for about 3 days before I stopped using it. Didn’t use it again for about 4-5 weeks. I’m using it again every now and then. Smell doesn’t bother me as much now, noticing more respect, and getting use to it. Take your time with the product. Also hits don’t always jump out at you, it might take a while for you to notice all the small subtle hits. What you can do is try A314 for like 2 weeks, stop using it for 2-3 weeks and you may see what A314 was doing for you. ---
**Author:** ![jonb16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@jonb16](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jonb16)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disappointed-am-not-convinced-yet/12733/5 "2008-05-17T22:49:36Z")
Thanks for the advice guys - you’re right, I need to take some more time with it. I’m not a huge or in your face guy, but I’m confident because I look after myself, have achieved a lot in my 31 years and am successful in what I do. I’ve always felt like I had the ‘alpha male’ in me (maybe it’s because I’m an Aries that I _feel_ like that!) but I’m not in your face though and can be slightly reserved with new people (I like to observe / listen first until I get to know people), and maybe the A314 isn’t quite the right fit - I guess I can be self-conscious, perhaps reserved sometimes. I think I’ve noticed some hits with A314 day time use, but it’s the smell that puts me off experimenting more! I wear colognes in the evening but don’t feel comfortable with being too smelly - phero or colognes wise - during day wear. The effects I’ve noticed are that on a few occasions I have had female strangers pay me a lot more respect than usual but I haven’t noticed anything at work and generally from people that already know me. I’m worried about wearing either of them (I also have TUTH) around the girlfriend as I think it should remain my little secret? Is that immoral of me?!! Any suggestions on how I might combine both (amounts, application points?) for a night out? I can’t myself, smell the TUTH thankfully. You’re probably going to suggest I get some social pheros but I’d like to experiment with what I have so far to see if pheros are for me - I believe they work but I feel a little bit like perhaps an athlete would if taking performance enhancements. So if any of you out there can suggest my next steps to take with my A314 and TUTH combo bearing in mind that I’m worried the girlfriend might find out (we live together) or I might smell strangely at work, I’d love to hear from you. Next weekend I am away from the girlfriend at a reunion and I’ll be seeing people I haven’t seen for years so I want to appear successful and as it’s my old uni, there’ll be a lot of 18 year old freshers out there to experiment on… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disappointed-am-not-convinced-yet/12733/6 "2008-05-24T17:18:49Z")
Regarding the smell, since A314 is oil based, it’ll last all day. Not necessarily the smell, but the effects. So, what you could try is putting it on as soon as you can after showering (if you’re a morning bather) and wait about thirty minutes for it to die down, then cover. Also, I’ve read where people apply it to the top of their head, and this might help with the smell, at least for _you._ The wacky thing about [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) is that what may stink to you may smell great to someone else. As for combining A314 and TUTH, try a drop of A314 on your wrist. Add one shot of TUTH and rub your wrists together and up and down your forearms if wearing a short sleeve shirt. Alternatively, you can rub it all over the back of your hands. Split another drop of A314 behind your ears and finish off with another shot of TUTH to the back of your neck. Let us know how it goes. 🙂 -D4