# Disaster with A314

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 8, 2010, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434 "2010-10-08T05:02:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Standard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Standard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Standard)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/1 "2010-10-08T05:02:21Z")

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Something happened to me while I was wearing A314 now I’m too scared to use it. Here’s what happened:

A mate of mine is a two time national grand champion in boxing and I’m an Asian geek with very little muscle mass.

He came over yesterday after work with his very hot girlfriend (as all grand champions do I guess) and the plan was to watch a movie I recently purchased. At the time I had about four drops of A314 applied to my neck and arms - I usually do this every weekday for respect at work.

About five minutes into the movie, he said he wanted to go get some grog and will be back in ten minutes, we paused the movie and I was alone with his girlfriend. Almost immediately after he stepped out the door, she put her arms around me, I shocked at what was happening, AFAIK she only likes muscly guys plus I didn’t want to do what I thought was happening to a good friend. So I shrugged her off and sat on a different couch. She was persistent though. She came over, sat beside me and started flirting (I didn’t flirt back I swear!) then she put her hands on my legs and started working towards my groin.

When I heard my mate come back, I was relieved, I thought she would finally stop making me uncomfortable. But she didn’t, she couldn’t keep her hands off me, and my mate had to drag her off of me, but still he couldn’t stop her from flirting with me. Eventually he said “that’s enough, we’re going” and they were gone. I had thought that was the last of it.

This morning while I was at work, my mate called me. He said his girlfriend broke up with him, apparently because she wanted to go out with me instead. He thought I went behind his back and did something with her while he was gone but I told him I didn’t do anything and that she came onto me. He doesn’t quite believe me but said he will give me the benefit of the doubt this time only.

Now I’m a bit worried about wearing A314 in fear that I might end up with a fractured skull. In the past, A314 has only ever drove away women I’m trying to pick up, so I replace it with IG on weekends. But now when I think about it, they’ve only ever been Asian women, perhaps A314 _is_ the magic potion for white girls, especially those who likes professional boxers.

I’m interested to know if there is anything that can counter the effects of A314 quickly without having to take a shower?

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/2 "2010-10-08T05:15:39Z")

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Well A314 is about a mature sophisticated sort of vibe, a spray of instant jerk might counter that, Heavy IO might beta the vibe a bit.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 12:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/3 "2010-10-08T12:28:00Z")

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how old was the white girl? White girls 25+ REALLY DIG A314. I have women from 25 to 35 approaching me ALL THE TIME, esp when I throw in A1, CTTM2 or IO… lol

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**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/4 "2010-10-08T14:18:43Z")

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No offense but that is an AWESOME hit (not cool how your boy got booted) but the print you left on her and by nearly doing nothing is insane! I have only used A314 3 times so far, and my one promiscuous lady friend who is only into older guys has been touching a LOT more and I have seen her every day this week and I only usually see her maybe once every other. She texts me all the time and she NEVER texts me first which I find awesome, but that’s just me. You should just maybe explain your friend or even his lady friend what happened… it may be ballsy but it may be a better solution. And maybe that girl is just a loose cannon anyways…I mean I found your story almost jaw dropping on a few levels. But knowing Radman, he always has GREAT advice. IJ would def give you a little “backfire” if you know what I mean. In the past people were either completely amazed like “who is he, I need to talk to him” or I get ghosted when wearing IJ.

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/5 "2010-10-08T14:23:22Z")

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I’m sorry to laugh at your problem, but this is hilarious. Your mate must really like you. I would have been pissed. Or maybe he just doesn’t care I don’t know. I do know this, everyone I know outside of this forum always have major issues when they wear drops of A314. Why the hell do you need to wear so much? If I wear that much people start testing me. I get all kinds of crap. I have friends that wear A314 and have had the same problem. I never wear more than 2 drops these days with buffers. I usually only wear 1 drop and a little shine.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/6 "2010-10-08T14:27:51Z")

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> [@samuraitea](#):
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> No offense but that is an AWESOME hit (not cool how your boy got booted)

I’m kind of thinking the same - Don’t make success sound like disaster. 😃

And TBH, as someone who has been in both positions in the past, I’ve not held any grudge for long.

If I’d been somewhere with a woman who could be that much of a butterfly, I’d want to find that out before it went too far and I’d rather it involved a friend who could handle the situation with a bit of tact and respect and it sounds like you have done exactly that.

Don’t make any big plans with the girl though. 😉

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/7 "2010-10-08T14:33:00Z")

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> [@RADMAN513](#):
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> Well A314 is about a mature sophisticated sort of vibe, a spray of instant jerk might counter that, Heavy IO might beta the vibe a bit.

I don’t know bro. I get my hardest hits from A314 and IJ. If he had sprayed IJ on she might have raped him. My wife is very aggressive when I mix these two.

I would get out an alcohol pad and just wipe it all off.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/8 "2010-10-08T14:48:56Z")

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> [@Standard](#):
>
> Something happened to me while I was wearing A314 now I’m too scared to use it. Here’s what happened:
> 
> A mate of mine is a two time national grand champion in boxing and I’m an Asian geek with very little muscle mass.
> 
> He came over yesterday after work with his very hot girlfriend (as all grand champions do I guess) and the plan was to watch a movie I recently purchased. At the time I had about four drops of A314 applied to my neck and arms - I usually do this every weekday for respect at work.
> 
> About five minutes into the movie, he said he wanted to go get some grog and will be back in ten minutes, we paused the movie and I was alone with his girlfriend. Almost immediately after he stepped out the door, she put her arms around me, I shocked at what was happening, AFAIK she only likes muscly guys plus I didn’t want to do what I thought was happening to a good friend. So I shrugged her off and sat on a different couch. She was persistent though. She came over, sat beside me and started flirting (I didn’t flirt back I swear!) then she put her hands on my legs and started working towards my groin.
> 
> When I heard my mate come back, I was relieved, I thought she would finally stop making me uncomfortable. But she didn’t, she couldn’t keep her hands off me, and my mate had to drag her off of me, but still he couldn’t stop her from flirting with me. Eventually he said “that’s enough, we’re going” and they were gone. I had thought that was the last of it.
> 
> This morning while I was at work, my mate called me. He said his girlfriend broke up with him, apparently because she wanted to go out with me instead. He thought I went behind his back and did something with her while he was gone but I told him I didn’t do anything and that she came onto me. He doesn’t quite believe me but said he will give me the benefit of the doubt this time only.
> 
> Now I’m a bit worried about wearing A314 in fear that I might end up with a fractured skull. In the past, A314 has only ever drove away women I’m trying to pick up, so I replace it with IG on weekends. But now when I think about it, they’ve only ever been Asian women, perhaps A314 _is_ the magic potion for white girls, especially those who likes professional boxers.
> 
> I’m interested to know if there is anything that can counter the effects of A314 quickly without having to take a shower?

That is F\* AWESOME

Look, from what you told us you did nothing wrong. And women will NOT break up with their boyfriend because you’re wearing 4 drops of A314. There had to have been something latent in there that made her do what she did because the A314 just probably helped it along. Maybe your friend was a douche to her, maybe he was in reality, a beta guy. I’m not saying that all fighters are beta, but there are some that would cover up their insecurities by other means.

As a friend, I would never do that and say yeah screw that I’m going to go out with your ex, but I would definitely wear it again, and tell him that you would never do that.

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**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/9 "2010-10-08T16:05:20Z")

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I believe you Yanks have the following saying: “Bro’s before ho’s”. I am pretty sure it should apply in this case. 😉

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**Author:** ![keen\_observer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/keen_observer/32/1432_2.png) [@keen\_observer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/keen_observer)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/10 "2010-10-08T18:14:11Z")

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> [@Standard](#):
>
> Something happened to me while I was wearing A314 now I’m too scared to use it. Here’s what happened:
> 
> A mate of mine is a two time national grand champion in boxing and I’m an Asian geek with very little muscle mass.
> 
> He came over yesterday after work with his very hot girlfriend (as all grand champions do I guess) and the plan was to watch a movie I recently purchased. At the time I had about four drops of A314 applied to my neck and arms - I usually do this every weekday for respect at work.
> 
> About five minutes into the movie, he said he wanted to go get some grog and will be back in ten minutes, we paused the movie and I was alone with his girlfriend. Almost immediately after he stepped out the door, she put her arms around me, I shocked at what was happening, AFAIK she only likes muscly guys plus I didn’t want to do what I thought was happening to a good friend. So I shrugged her off and sat on a different couch. She was persistent though. She came over, sat beside me and started flirting (I didn’t flirt back I swear!) then she put her hands on my legs and started working towards my groin.
> 
> When I heard my mate come back, I was relieved, I thought she would finally stop making me uncomfortable. But she didn’t, she couldn’t keep her hands off me, and my mate had to drag her off of me, but still he couldn’t stop her from flirting with me. Eventually he said “that’s enough, we’re going” and they were gone. I had thought that was the last of it.
> 
> This morning while I was at work, my mate called me. He said his girlfriend broke up with him, apparently because she wanted to go out with me instead. He thought I went behind his back and did something with her while he was gone but I told him I didn’t do anything and that she came onto me. He doesn’t quite believe me but said he will give me the benefit of the doubt this time only.
> 
> Now I’m a bit worried about wearing A314 in fear that I might end up with a fractured skull. In the past, A314 has only ever drove away women I’m trying to pick up, so I replace it with IG on weekends. But now when I think about it, they’ve only ever been Asian women, perhaps A314 _is_ the magic potion for white girls, especially those who likes professional boxers.
> 
> I’m interested to know if there is anything that can counter the effects of A314 quickly without having to take a shower?

Standard, don’t argue with success!!😃 Unfortunately, you were in the right place at the wrong time with the wrong gal. If A314 worked for you this time it will happen again for you with the right chick. Have no fear … for you, A314 seems to be like a loaded weapon—you should only use it when you’re ready to shoot a few rounds!😛 You can also dampen the effects somewhat by wearing some buffers along with the A314.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/11 "2010-10-08T18:20:11Z")

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Maybe you were trying to be funny.

But that’s an idiotic comment

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**Author:** ![Vivid\_Boy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vivid_boy/32/2225_2.png) [@Vivid\_Boy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vivid_Boy)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/12 "2010-10-08T18:22:17Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> Maybe you were trying to be funny.
> 
> But that’s an idiotic comment

I was playing around, This board doesn’t always have to be super serious.

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/13 "2010-10-08T19:12:14Z")

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> [@Vivid\_Boy](#):
>
> I was playing around, This board doesn’t always have to be super serious.

There’s dumb comments which I noticed you like to do regularly. And then there are insensitive ones. There are people here who are more sensitive than others.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/14 "2010-10-08T19:38:42Z")

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> [@Standard](#):
>
> Something happened to me while I was wearing A314 now I’m too scared to use it. Here’s what happened:
> 
> A mate of mine is a two time national grand champion in boxing and I’m an Asian geek with very little muscle mass.
> 
> He came over yesterday after work with his very hot girlfriend (as all grand champions do I guess) and the plan was to watch a movie I recently purchased. At the time I had about four drops of A314 applied to my neck and arms - I usually do this every weekday for respect at work.
> 
> About five minutes into the movie, he said he wanted to go get some grog and will be back in ten minutes, we paused the movie and I was alone with his girlfriend. Almost immediately after he stepped out the door, she put her arms around me, I shocked at what was happening, AFAIK she only likes muscly guys plus I didn’t want to do what I thought was happening to a good friend. So I shrugged her off and sat on a different couch. She was persistent though. She came over, sat beside me and started flirting (I didn’t flirt back I swear!) then she put her hands on my legs and started working towards my groin.
> 
> When I heard my mate come back, I was relieved, I thought she would finally stop making me uncomfortable. But she didn’t, she couldn’t keep her hands off me, and my mate had to drag her off of me, but still he couldn’t stop her from flirting with me. Eventually he said “that’s enough, we’re going” and they were gone. I had thought that was the last of it.
> 
> This morning while I was at work, my mate called me. He said his girlfriend broke up with him, apparently because she wanted to go out with me instead. He thought I went behind his back and did something with her while he was gone but I told him I didn’t do anything and that she came onto me. He doesn’t quite believe me but said he will give me the benefit of the doubt this time only.
> 
> **Now I’m a bit worried about wearing A314 in fear that I might end up with a fractured skull. In the past, A314 has only ever drove away women I’m trying to pick up, so I replace it with IG on weekends. But now when I think about it, they’ve only ever been Asian women, perhaps A314 _is_ the magic potion for white girls, especially those who likes professional boxers.**
> 
> I’m interested to know **if there is anything that can counter the effects of A314 quickly** without having to take a shower?

I’m so very sorry, but I just had to nominate this post for A314’s sake! 😃

Counter it, eh? Try NOT USING it! 😃🙄🆒😛 😉🙂

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/15 "2010-10-08T20:04:40Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> There’s dumb comments which I noticed you like to do regularly. And then there are insensitive ones. There are people here who are more sensitive than others.

Let’s not exacerbate the issue. I removed the post.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/16 "2010-10-08T20:06:13Z")

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> [@Vivid\_Boy](#):
>
> I was playing around, This board doesn’t always have to be super serious.

I play around often, but that was racially insensitive and not tolerated. Its over and has been removed. Lets move on

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/17 "2010-10-08T21:33:51Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> Let’s not exacerbate the issue. I removed the post.

My apologies

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**Author:** ![England](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/england/32/1163_2.png) [@England](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/England)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/18 "2010-10-08T21:40:12Z")

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I love how a super hot girl ditches her boxing champion boyfriend for an, as you said, “geek”. By the way, don’t be so hard on yourself mate! If you think of yourself like that then it’s very possible that other people will as well.

Anyway as already mentioned, A314 couldn’t have had everything to do with it, but in my opinion, it must have made her tip from not liking her boyfriend to lusting over you. Perhaps she is very perceptive of her boyfriend’s exterior only Alpha-ness and your interior, real Alpha-ness. Just a theory.

I sympathize with your Asian-ness if it causes difficulty getting Caucasian girls. I’m mixed race (Asian/Caucasian) and I get hits all the time from Asian girls but I’m really not attracted to the Asian race. I’m far more attracted to Caucasians from which hits are rarer ☹

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**Author:** ![Digital\_B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/digital_b/32/1716_2.png) [@Digital\_B](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Digital_B)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/19 "2010-10-08T21:49:22Z")

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Asians throw me out of control. Then again read heads do too. I have no problem pickign up white women. I’m white. That is all.

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**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disaster-with-a314/42434/20 "2010-10-08T21:53:54Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> That is F\* AWESOME
> 
> Look, from what you told us **you did nothing wrong**. And **women will NOT break up with their boyfriend because** you’re wearing 4 drops of A314. There had to have been **something latent** in there that made her do what she did because the A314 just probably helped it along. **Maybe** your friend was **a douche to her** , **maybe** he was in reality, a beta guy. I’m not saying that all fighters are beta, but there are some that would **cover up** their insecurities by other means.
> 
> As a friend, I would never do that and say yeah screw that I’m going to go out with your ex, but I would definitely wear it again, and tell him that you would never do that.

When read I read this thread yesterday, I was thinking along the same lines just as Mustang has stated. Personally maybe I would take one drop less of A314, _ **but** _ I wouldn’t be jumping through a bunch of loops and making changes because of her. She knew that she was playing a 'live, _hot-wire’_ anyway. Very disrespectful on her part.

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