# Discussion Topic-Ongoing 'mone Usage **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [March 30, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580 "2008-03-30T02:39:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/1 "2008-03-30T02:39:36Z")
Hey everyone, I’ve been using pheremones on and off, I think two years now. I used to use them heavily. Maybe you recognize me, maybe not! These are deep or surface questions to those who have been using them for a long time. If you’re new, feel free to reply too. After about 6 months of heavy usage, I toned it down a lot. I went for about a year of few-times a week usage. Nowadays, I only use them in very special situations where I feel like I need an artificial edge. For those of you who have been using them a long time…how do you feel? Do you feel you need them sometimes? Does it feel like cheating, or just another tool? Personally, I don’t feel like I ever need to have them, or when I do its almost like I’m cheating with life. (I’m not at all accusing those who use them as cheating, its just the feeling in me) All the effects it has on myself, I can produce myself by controlling my emotions, mood, or intent. Which, I used to not be able to do at all-so maybe that has something to do with it. As for the effects on others, I find myself only using it as sort of an extra “lure” to increase the chance to get someones attention or accomplishing something specific. When I do use the pheremones, I think-is this pheremone for who I really am? If I can answer yes, I apply it…if the answer is no, I’ve given it away like TUTH. I consider myself very lucky to be a well-rounded individual to be able to say yes to so many, but I wonder what all the other long-time users out there think. Do you ever still use pheremones (I know a lot of new users do this) to try and become a type of person you currently are not? For example I used to see a lot of new users wanting to overcome shyness by IO. Although I can see myself buying a lot in the future for testing, I can’t see myself being a frequent user. I’ve also grown out of the bar/club scene, so that could be another factor. For those long-term users that use it in every day life and relationships, is it special interest? Do you use them all the time or just when you are looking to accomplish something specific? If my questions are a little scattered and derailed, my apologies I just wanted to get this out there so I can pick your brains. I very much appreciate any response, however short or long. Thank you, SleeK Off topic-I once had a bad experience where I told a girl I had been seeing for a few months that I used them…I never saw her again after that. I explained pretty clearly they are suggestions not manipulations, but I don’t think she took it that way. Yeah, there was other stuff going on, but I have a feeling that was a big part. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/2 "2008-03-30T20:31:33Z")
I have been using pheros on-and-off for about 8 years: I started with Athena, tried a couple of others over the years and finally came across Androtics. Realizing that [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) do not make anybody into something their not, and cannot compel anyone to do anything they aren’t already pre-supposed to doing, I use pheros as enhancements, to lower barriers, make it easier to talk to people, display higher value, etc. I see absolutely nothing wrong with using pheros for these purposes, and if you think about it, many things we do in everyday life are with the intent of achieving the same goals: We dress to impress or wear clothing tailored for specific situations, men shave and style their hair, we wear cologne or aftershave, women wear makeup, and accessories, and we all oftentimes act in different ways around different people. Many people want to enhance what they already have, or what they feel is missing or needs improving on in their lives, and there are thousands of self-help books written and nearly as many seminars available to assist people in achieving their goals. I don’t think when you are considering using a pheromone you need to ask yourself if the pheromone is “for who you really are”, but more - Can it help me become who I’d like to be. When we are born, our parents, society, peer pressure and other factors help mold us into who we become, but there’s no reason we can’t and shouldn’t strive to become something more. ---
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/3 "2008-03-30T22:56:29Z")
Thank you so much for your reply. It means so much to be able to pick the brains of long-term users. A few things I said were shifted a little more towards extreme so I could invoke some responses 😉, I actually see pretty eye-to-eye with you are saying. I just have a lot of loose ends sitting around I’ve wondered what other people think. I think more what I meant with -is this me?-, for example with turn up the heat, with my life beliefs and morals I have to say I don’t want to use TUTH. As in, it doesn’t and never will fit what I want to accomplish so I gave it away. Even if I bought it for experiment or fun. Does that make more sense? thanks again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/4 "2008-03-30T23:27:38Z")
Anytime. I guess it makes sense, if you look at TUTH like it is intended to get you laid. BUT, that’s not really the intent at all. No phero is going to make anybody do anything they didn’t want to in the first place, and TUTH is intended more to help take things to the next level and can also aid in spicing up relationships that are already at that level.. There are numerous married and men in LTR’s who use TUTH to ignite that extra spark that may have feded in their relationships, and several women also use TUTH to heat things up in the bedroom. However, it matters not what I or anybody else thinks, you have to do what you feel is right and moral for you. ---
**Author:** ![Curiouschic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Curiouschic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Curiouschic)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/5 "2008-03-30T23:29:02Z")
> [@sleekll](#): > > Thank you so much for your reply. > > It means so much to be able to pick the brains of long-term users. A few things I said were shifted a little more towards extreme so I could invoke some responses 😉, I actually see pretty eye-to-eye with you are saying. I just have a lot of loose ends sitting around I’ve wondered what other people think. > > I think more what I meant with -is this me?-, for example with turn up the heat, with my life beliefs and morals I have to say I don’t want to use Turn Up The Heat. As in, it doesn’t and never will fit what I want to accomplish so I gave it away. Even if I bought it for experiment or fun. Does that make more sense? > > thanks again 🙂 What do you want to accomplish and why does TUTH go against this? I am curious as this is one of them gems I keep for myself when I want to add an extra good time to my evening. CC 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/6 "2008-03-31T01:11:32Z")
I have been using mones for a real long time now. First with alot of other products and companies ( I have a mone closet big enough to start my own store LOL) and for the last few years here at androtics. Mones dont change who I am or who anyone else is. They are a small part of attraction and communication. I pretty much use them 4 to 6 days a week. I dont feel I have to use them. Sometimes if I am in a hurry I simply forget to put them on. Life go’s on and I still get hit on LOL. They are just fun to use and make life easier and interesting for me. I think sometimes its different for guys and maybe this is why your feeling this way. Women are used to using items and products to enhance ourselves. Makeup, perfumes, wonder bras, they dont change who you are they just enhance it. Mones can attract someone to you. They can arouse a person, make them open up more but its you and who you are that will make them want to be with you or not. Eventually they will be exposed to you when you dont have them on just like my husband see’s me without my wonder bra and makeup and if there is more to the relationship it dosnt really matter. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/7 "2008-03-31T03:50:59Z")
I recognize you. Lesson #1: The simple, shotgun approach just does not work. Lesson #2: Rapid Desensitization of subjects. Lesson #3: Possibly weakened pheromone signature / decreased output. My observations on the same core group of female guinea pigs has led me to believe that they become desensitized to daily pheromone use within a few weeks, so I am going to rebuild my collection to a point where I have a wider variety of very targeted mones, and I am going to avoid using one pheromone as a base, which I typically have done in the past. (For example I buy one core product, wear it daily, and add putatives or MX’s to the mix, or I mix two products in a bottle and wear them both daily.) I think the best approach is to use completely different pheromones each day. I also sometimes wonder if applying pheromones to my skin somehow effects my output of my own signature pheromones, whether it be through a feedback mechanism linked to the VMO organ or through a systemic reaction to absorption through the skin. ---
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/8 "2008-03-31T06:16:45Z")
> [@texaspete](#): > > I also sometimes wonder if applying pheromones to my skin somehow effects my output of my own signature pheromones, whether it be through a feedback mechanism linked to the VMO organ or through a systemic reaction to absorption through the skin. You know, sometimes I wonder that too! I naturally output a lot of alpha signatures so I’ve used what I usually lack as I’ve got enough man emitting. > [@](#): > > What do you want to accomplish and why does Turn Up The Heat go against this? > > I am curious as this is one of them gems I keep for myself when I want to add an extra good time to my evening. I hope this makes sense-I’ll explain myself as best as possible. On a beliefs/morals level I want my partner to be excited naturally. I would much rather use things like I S, I O, I H, etc, anything but T U T H. My one and only goal is for them to love me, and for us to be making love to spirit to spirit. Anything that helps them see me for me, and have good lovemaking, is fine. The result I found from T U T H was animalistic, and very lustful. Even its affect on me, we wanted each others for our bodies, not the connection, and that I see as detrimental to what I am trying to accomplish. If you enjoy it, great! I’m just trying to give you a peak inside my head 🙂 Also as a side note, T U T H gives me extreme depression afterwards. Every time. Can’t explain it. So I wouldn’t use it anyway. I pick T U T H to explain why I don’t use certain mones because its very targeted. > [@](#): > > I think sometimes its different for guys and maybe this is why your feeling this way. Women are used to using items and products to enhance ourselves. Makeup, perfumes, wonder bras, they dont change who you are they just enhance it. I think you’re on to something there, as a guy maybe I feel its cheating somewhat. Because not everyone knows about it or uses it, I have an unfair endge? Thanks so much for all your replies! It is so great to hear from such intelligent and straightforward people. Much gratitude. -S ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/9 "2008-03-31T09:46:24Z")
Good point Pete, I dont wear the same basic mix everyday. So I never allow anyone to really become desensitized to what I am wearing. Skipping a few days a week and changing your signature alot helps keep the reactions fresh. > [@](#): > > I think you’re on to something there, as a guy maybe I feel its cheating somewhat. Because not everyone knows about it or uses it, I have an unfair endge? Its not cheating, believe me when you meet these girls they are not going to volunteer info about what they use for enhancement. How many girls do you meet that say to you _" Hi nice to meet you I have a wonder bra on to enhance my boobs and give me a unfair advantage"_ They dont, so you dont need to feel bad about your [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) use. It wont make them do anything they dont want to do. Believe me sometimes a wonder bra has the power to make people react out of there comfort zone to 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/10 "2008-03-31T15:32:03Z")
I’m also thinking about limiting my use to once every three days or so, focusing on weekends and specific days or events when I know that I’ll be around certain people. > [@tisha23](#): > > Good point Pete, I dont wear the same basic mix everyday. So I never allow anyone to really become desensitized to what I am wearing. Skipping a few days a week and changing your signature alot helps keep the reactions fresh. ---
**Author:** ![Curiouschic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@Curiouschic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Curiouschic)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/11 "2008-03-31T16:58:59Z")
> [@sleekll](#): > > I hope this makes sense-I’ll explain myself as best as possible. On a beliefs/morals level I want my partner to be excited naturally. I would much rather use things like I S, I O, I H, etc, anything but T U T H. My one and only goal is for them to love me, and for us to be making love to spirit to spirit. Anything that helps them see me for me, and have good lovemaking, is fine. The result I found from T U T H was animalistic, and very lustful. Even its affect on me, we wanted each others for our bodies, not the connection, and that I see as detrimental to what I am trying to accomplish. If you enjoy it, great! I’m just trying to give you a peak inside my head 🙂 > > Also as a side note, T U T H gives me extreme depression afterwards. Every time. Can’t explain it. So I wouldn’t use it anyway. I pick T U T H to explain why I don’t use certain pheromones because its very targeted. Ahh yes, I totally know what you mean, it can definetly be very gimmie gimmie. Thats really odd about the depression, I wonder if it is phero related or just based on the feeling you get because you usesd TUTH and it didnt feel right. Very interesting… ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/12 "2008-03-31T19:08:23Z")
I din’t have any trouble with TUTH, but IS depressed me, deeply and predictably, 10-12 hours after application. > [@](#): > > Also as a side note, T U T H gives me extreme depression afterwards. Every time. Can’t explain it. So I wouldn’t use it anyway. I pick T U T H to explain why I don’t use certain **pheromones**. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 7:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/13 "2008-04-01T07:33:08Z")
> [@sleekll](#): > > I think more what I meant with -is this me?-, for example with turn up the heat, with my life beliefs and morals I have to say I don’t want to use Turn Up The Heat. As in, it doesn’t and never will fit what I want to accomplish so I gave it away. Even if I bought it for experiment or fun. Does that make more sense? > > thanks again 🙂 I know what you mean. Myself I’m not sure if I will use Turn Up The Heat again in an early stage of an LTR.. well at some point in the future yes I will though. 😃😃 And in the meantime, I will use ammo.. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 7:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/discussion-topic-ongoing-mone-usage/10580/14 "2008-04-01T07:35:40Z")
> [@sleekll](#): > > I think you’re on to something there, as a guy maybe I feel its cheating somewhat. Because not everyone knows about it or uses it, I have an unfair endge? > > Thanks so much for all your replies! It is so great to hear from such intelligent and straightforward people. Much gratitude. > > -S I think it’s not unfair at all. Most people wouldn’t believe these things do work. If I can improve myself in various ways including by using pheromones, and give her a better experience, then why not?