# Disheartened and discouraged **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 21, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disheartened-and-discouraged/11620 "2008-04-21T15:38:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disheartened-and-discouraged/11620/4 "2008-04-21T16:45:34Z")
I feel your pain. Yes in the very beginning the Pheromaster could not get her mones to do squat. (snort) Jasmin and the lovely Phero ladies took me under there wing and a master was born. A few suggestions… Use one product at a time till you get it working so you can see exactly what it does. This way you will know which one it is and how much you need to see a reaction. Use more A314 you wont OD it dosnt have much anone in it. Try 4 full drops. Apply to the pulse points or places your body heats up. This is more important with oil based products. You need to get it to diffuse. Keep in mind that A314 dosnt up your approuchablity it ups your status. Look for visual cues and people treating you better. Some girls are attracted to the alpha personality and some wait from a cue from the alpha that there is interest before they will approuch. Make eye contact and smile. You mention your a confident guy so your not going to feel the self effects as strongly as some guys will. Now onto IShine … You have 2X am I correct ? Everyone because of climate and the way there bodies heat up needs different dosages. Systematically find your sweet spot. Its a chore I know but I had to go though it to make the products work and once you do you will be glad you did. > [@My stupid newbie tricks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/1): > > STOP If you are new and have not read this thread byZeph Ksages great expectations post Another great post that may help many guys by Fire and Ice Wow, the two month mark! I might as well post a few of my less than stellar phero adventures. I wouldn’t have listened to me but there may be some smarter noobs out there who will heed these remarks. First order was A314, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Instant Shine, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Turn Up The Heat, CTTM. smiley I think the mo… Its post number 5 but read the whole thread. You used IO to the backs of your hands. Not sure how much you used. You can use up to 5 sprays. Pick different application points for each spray. Keep in mind those closest to you take longr to be effected. They know you natural mone sig and have preconcieved notions about you already. After repeated exposure they begin to notice a change and respond to it. OK now onto you last problem They are training a new girl in CS. SteveO announced that they had a little mishap and some tickets got deleted. Not sure if yours could have been one of them but what you should do is send another or call SteveO on TUE. Just say your doing a follow up because you havent received word yet. They will take care of you. Jasmin wants you to be happy believe me she just posted it this morning right here… > [@To better serve](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/to-better-serve/10923/29): > > We’ll credit you for anything missing. No problem! Just give Steve a call on Tuesday, and he’ll fix you up. I never want you to feel disappointed here. You’re going feel loved or elated when it comes to your relationship with us… or else! slight_smile As far as the To Gos go, we’ve been working on that issue for months and months and MONTHS. It’s been taking up an inordinate amount of time, and Mharris refuses to release new mixes until the To Go bottle issue is resolved. There’s been SO mu… We are here to help you, hang in there you can get them working it just takes a little tweaking. Tisha --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/disheartened-and-discouraged/11620)._