# do i need help to be a gentleman

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 13, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464 "2008-09-13T23:22:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/1 "2008-09-13T23:22:37Z")

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hi all.

thinking about next order (yes only days after my last one).

what do all think of instant gentleman? im considering it and would like your opinions. thanks

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/2 "2008-09-13T23:27:57Z")

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I recommend it for sure. It’s one of my favourite [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) and rone is really good for attraction, respect, confidence and a cool vibe.

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/3 "2008-09-13T23:32:13Z")

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Yeah, I made a 2nd order about 4 days after my first try-out of IO - I was like “OK, this is good… need to try out some of that A314 now!”  
I got a free to-go of IG with my first order, and I’m considering getting a full one next order I make. I found it a good confidence builder myself, for just approaching and chatting to folk. That’s the self effects, the effects on others seem to work out pretty well too.  
Sometimes with the A314, one can approach, and get a not very forthcoming, submissive response from people, I’ve found.

here’s Bosshank’s thread on A314/IG. I found this all to be very much in keeping with my own experience.

> [@A314 vs Instant Gentleman: a married man in his mid-40s compares the two](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-instant-gentleman/11070):
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> Myself: Athletic, mid-40s, Married with children This is a compilation of thoughts on the differences between A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). A lot of this is based not only on my experience but also on some PMs between myself and Renny. So if you like this post and decide to share the love – er, rep points, please do not forget to send Renny some too. For those of you who are not familiar with Renny he and I are about the same age. I mention this as a couple of the products can have effects that v…

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**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/4 "2008-09-13T23:33:05Z")

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what have you been mixing it with?

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/5 "2008-09-13T23:36:03Z")

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Actually, IG on its own was pretty good when I made my first test of it. One of my favourites to date though has been 2:3:4 TUTH:IG:IO, basically distributed around the upper chest, throat and neck area, and a bit ends up on the wrists.

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**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/6 "2008-09-13T23:38:51Z")

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what sort of hits did you get, sexual, respect, chatty?

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/7 "2008-09-13T23:44:07Z")

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With IG on its own I got a mixture of respect and chatty hits, from both people I knew and people I got talking to.  
With the mix, it was at an open-air party where there were lots of kids running about, like a family thing. But my -none was sufficiently buffered so it didn’t scare off the kids. I had a very alpha vibe as I recall, and also would just open a conversation with someone and it would carry on for absolutely ages. No eligible females at that particular do. But had there been, I imagine the mix would have served me well.

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**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/8 "2008-09-13T23:50:49Z")

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thanks for that, reps to you ntk23 and wildflower for replying, i will put it on my next order. you are both from the uk we should form a uk group and share comments/mixes/experiences because uk girls have different attitudes and ways of thinking compared to american girls. if you are up for it get intouch.

cheers

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/9 "2008-09-14T00:00:40Z")

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Thanks. There are quite a few other UK guys on the forum too, I don’t recall seeing any women from the UK on the forum, but I’m sure they’re out there. I can’t wait to see how heavy doses of (4x strength) [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) go down in the UK, myself. I’m getting some with my next order which should be… soon. See how the British “stiff upper lip” copes when faced with a blast of betanol 😃

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**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/10 "2008-09-14T00:07:08Z")

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be careful, it might make that lip even stiffer, instead of very loose. i am going to have to up my dose now you are getting x4. whats the maximum you have worn, im up to 4 sprays of x1strength now.

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/11 "2008-09-14T00:19:37Z")

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I haven’t actually tried IH yet. But the reports on this forum are so positive, and from people who have reported on things that I have tried that have correlated well with my own experience, that I trust the forum’s judgement with what people are saying about the IH effects. They were certainly right about the IO, A314, Ishine, etc.  
Only thing I haven’t seen any effects from is the IFM, and I should be really using this as an additional ingredient to mixes, I think, as per the current IFM thread.

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**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/12 "2008-09-14T00:23:22Z")

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i am very confident after very little use and searching the forum that ifm is really a very good addition to -none mixes.

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/13 "2008-09-14T10:18:30Z")

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I find that 2 sprays of IG makes me a smooth talker and it is great if you are having a conversation with a shy person who doesnt really want to open up, as you have no problem keeping the conversation going and eventually they start adding to it and before you know it you will have been talking for hours before you even know it.  
On the other hand, i find that a314 tends to make conversations shorter and give it a serious vibe and so mixing 2x IG with 2x a314 is one of my favourite combos.

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**Author:** ![snakeeyesontheparadise](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snakeeyesontheparadise/32/791_2.png) [@snakeeyesontheparadise](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snakeeyesontheparadise)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/14 "2008-09-14T13:02:08Z")

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> [@in\_uk](#):
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> what do all think of instant gentleman? im considering it and would like your opinions. thanks

I’d recommend ordering some IG, it’s good to have this little variation up your sleeve…

I always get a lot of compliments after applying it, and it gives me a feel-good vibe, different to that of IS though, more an “assured” feel-good vibe. Also has a high memorability factor with the ladies who you run into after they’ve met you when you’ve had some IG on around them.

In fact I don’t believe i’ve had a bad reaction to it as yet, but there can be a downside around certain male types that I’ve experienced in my usage of this product.

You can read my latest journal entries documenting my thoughts and experiences when I had sprayed some IG on me to get some further perspective, plus there are many other threads you can research on this forum about the product.

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/15 "2008-09-14T15:29:41Z")

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> [@in\_uk](#):
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> i am very confident after very little use and searching the forum that Instant Female Magic is really a very good addition to -none mixes.

yeah for sure. Can’t believe it took me so long to figure it out ☹

Whilst we’re talking about none mixes and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), the two go together really well. The difference between ammo and turn up the heat is the rone and a-nol in the ammo. Rone being the primary pheromone in Instant Gentleman. I think it’s the none and rone combined that generate attraction whereas none on it’s own is simply arousal.
