# do i need help to be a gentleman **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 13, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464 "2008-09-13T23:22:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464/3 "2008-09-13T23:32:13Z")
Yeah, I made a 2nd order about 4 days after my first try-out of IO - I was like “OK, this is good… need to try out some of that A314 now!” I got a free to-go of IG with my first order, and I’m considering getting a full one next order I make. I found it a good confidence builder myself, for just approaching and chatting to folk. That’s the self effects, the effects on others seem to work out pretty well too. Sometimes with the A314, one can approach, and get a not very forthcoming, submissive response from people, I’ve found. here’s Bosshank’s thread on A314/IG. I found this all to be very much in keeping with my own experience. > [@A314 vs Instant Gentleman: a married man in his mid-40s compares the two](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-vs-instant-gentleman/11070): > > Myself: Athletic, mid-40s, Married with children This is a compilation of thoughts on the differences between A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). A lot of this is based not only on my experience but also on some PMs between myself and Renny. So if you like this post and decide to share the love – er, rep points, please do not forget to send Renny some too. For those of you who are not familiar with Renny he and I are about the same age. I mention this as a couple of the products can have effects that v… --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-i-need-help-to-be-a-gentleman/19464)._