# Do men really like intelligent women? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 12, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287 "2011-11-12T12:26:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fishlalala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9a140/32.png) [@fishlalala](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishlalala)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/1 "2011-11-12T12:26:06Z")
Hiya guys I need advice. I have been wearing Essence of woman and desire22 for 2 weeks now, I have not found any extraordinary results like the other girls got here. I am fit and pretty by the way. I was wondering whether it to do with the intelligence level, bcoz I am at PhD level and I am seeing a PhD colleague of mine at the moment, and I found he seems to be more interested whenever I need some emergency advice or help from him, not when I talk about career confidently. Anyway, its an open discussion for guys! by the way, I also would be much appreciated if you can spare 5/6 minute to fill in my online survey part of my PhD research, its quite interesting and its on personality. [QuestionPro Survey - Dispositions to rules and principles](http://IndividualDispositionstoRulesandPrinciples.questionpro.com/) Thanxxx ---
**Author:** ![Cadaver\_Puncher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c4cdca/32.png) [@Cadaver\_Puncher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cadaver_Puncher)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/2 "2011-11-12T13:00:56Z")
Personally, I think brains make people sexier ( why do most guys fantasize about teachers and librarians? ) But on the down side some people get intimidated if ( or when ) someone is smarter than them. I Get just the opposite …being a bodybuilder people think I’m an idiot. But I prefer smart women over women that act like their parents are related. ---
**Author:** ![Generic01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@Generic01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Generic01)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/3 "2011-11-12T14:47:01Z")
I think you’ll find that intelligence, while an admirable quality and something that promotes respect is not exactly an ‘attraction trigger’ for men. Most guys will find your career irrelevant in how attractive they find you, with intense ambition (To the point where it consumes your life and conversations) even being a turnoff. As far as genuine Long Term Relationship material, a good career and intelligence are obviously an incredibly important factor, but not in primal attraction. Vulnerability, such as when you’re asking for help allows him to step in and be a man, to provide and to protect, it allows him to act in the masculine polarity because you’re evoking the feminine. This doesn’t mean you have to be a doormat who aspires to be barefoot and pregnant, indeed, be fiery, passionate and strong. But remember that he is a man, be a woman. ---
**Author:** ![classicalflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@classicalflower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/classicalflower)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/4 "2011-11-12T16:05:12Z")
> [@fishlalala](#): > > Hiya guys > I need advice. I have been wearing Essence of woman and desire22 for 2 weeks now, I have not found any extraordinary results like the other girls got here. I am fit and pretty by the way. I was wondering whether it to do with the intelligence level, bcoz I am at PhD level and I am seeing a PhD colleague of mine at the moment, and I found he seems to be more interested whenever I need some emergency advice or help from him, not when I talk about career confidently. Anyway, its an open discussion for guys! I’m a PhD student and i’ve often wondered about this…really looking forward to reading the replies. Although I do consider myself intelligent - I sometimes play the shy/innocent type around certain guys until I know them…has been working well for me recently 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/5 "2011-11-12T16:18:51Z")
For me intelligence is a huge element in what I look for in a relationship. You could be an absolute 10+ but if you’re as dumb as a bunch of rocks, I won’t go near ya. Personally I have no problem dating or being with a woman who holds a higher degree than myself. My philosophy on relationships is that each person should help the other grow emotionally, intellectually and spiritually so as long as I am providing something to this equation with the other person, then it’s all good. Besides, I do consider myself to be above average intelligence and it’s hard to find someone who can hold a decent conversation these days. ---
**Author:** ![fishlalala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9a140/32.png) [@fishlalala](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishlalala)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/6 "2011-11-12T17:14:14Z")
> [@classicalflower](#): > > I’m a PhD student and i’ve often wondered about this…really looking forward to reading the replies. > > Although I do consider myself intelligent - I sometimes play the shy/innocent type around certain guys until I know them…has been working well for me recently 🙂 hahaha, I know what you mean ~~However, I feel abit guilty for being so vulnerable in front of him… I mean my guy is also doing a phd and I sometimes feel he may look down on me when i am not getting job done properly and have to get help from him… its a FINE BALANCE~~~~ takes some deliberate practice!! hey Lovely, can you help with filling in my survey pls???😃 ---
**Author:** ![fishlalala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9a140/32.png) [@fishlalala](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishlalala)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/7 "2011-11-12T17:16:44Z")
> [@2000GT](#): > > For me intelligence is a huge element in what I look for in a relationship. You could be an absolute 10+ but if you’re as dumb as a bunch of rocks, I won’t go near ya. Personally I have no problem dating or being with a woman who holds a higher degree than myself. My philosophy on relationships is that each person should help the other grow emotionally, intellectually and spiritually so as long as I am providing something to this equation with the other person, then it’s all good. Besides, I do consider myself to be above average intelligence and it’s hard to find someone who can hold a decent conversation these days. you right… hard to find someone at the same wave-length as us~~ I reckon people on this forum are quite intelligent, it takes a very thoughtful person to think of the concept of attractions and how [pheromone](https://a314.com/) can help with that!! hiya, can you help with filling in my online survey pls?? it takes less than 5minute!! xx ---
**Author:** ![fishlalala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9a140/32.png) [@fishlalala](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishlalala)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/8 "2011-11-12T17:29:42Z")
> [@Cadaver\_Puncher](#): > > Personally, I think brains make people sexier ( why do most guys fantasize about teachers and librarians? ) But on the down side some people get intimidated if ( or when ) someone is smarter than them. I Get just the opposite …being a bodybuilder people think I’m an idiot. But I prefer smart women over women that act like their parents are related. yes~~ I like FIT and Brainy guys!! haha, esp the ones wearing mones!! hey wouldnot be nice if you can spare 5minute to complete my online survey?? thanxxx alot!! ---
**Author:** ![alex398](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/77aa72/32.png) [@alex398](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alex398)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/9 "2011-11-12T17:40:47Z")
I am very attracted to women who know what there talking about and are smart. Theres nothing hotter Imho. : ) To be honest im turned off if for example i say, i have conjunctivitis in my eye you know the yellow mucus stuff? And she responds, whats that? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/10 "2011-11-12T18:20:43Z")
Intelligent women - Hell yes! 😃 😃 😃 In fact i can say that I’d be very wary of getting into anything serious with someone who couldn’t do it for me in the head as well as the body. 🙂 Just done your survey. ---
**Author:** ![fishlalala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9a140/32.png) [@fishlalala](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishlalala)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/11 "2011-11-12T18:33:19Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Intelligent women - Hell yes! 😃 😃 😃 > > In fact i can say that I’d be very wary of getting into anything serious with someone who couldn’t do it for me in the head as well as the body. 🙂 > > Just done your survey. haha, here is another supporter for Intelligent girl like me in the Scotland!! Thnaxx babe!😃 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/12 "2011-11-12T18:52:13Z")
I love me a intelligent woman! They taste like chicken!!! 😉 I, myself, like the challenge; and it tickles me when I run into one that tries to challenge me. I’m NOT the intelligent type, and most in my shoes would consider them OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE. To me, there is NO such thing! They’re huggable and kissable, too! 😉 My favorite on the subject is … Intelligent people are NOT necessarily smart Smart people are NOT necessarily intelligent And they both can LACK common sense A crackhead and a wino can tell you something, and a smart/intelligent person can tell you something, and what both said using DIFFERENT verbiage … mean the SAME THING. 🙄 I’m cool with that! But yeahyah, I enjoy the company of the INTELLIGENT of the female kind. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/13 "2011-11-12T18:58:56Z")
I could not find my type of education at the end of the Survey so I chose “prefer not to answer”, there should be “other”. Quebec has a unique educational system. I have 6 years of advanced studies in non of the types of educational fields mentioned. I’m an engineering technologist specialised in nuclear, concrete and construction yard execution quality. You do not go to university for this, yet it is much more difficult than university. ---
**Author:** ![Cadaver\_Puncher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c4cdca/32.png) [@Cadaver\_Puncher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cadaver_Puncher)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/14 "2011-11-12T19:06:39Z")
Nothing worse than a person saying " what? " after everything you say Almost makes you want to push them in front of a train. \* insert evil grin here \* Like if you comment on global warming, they look at you weird and say it’s cold outside what is the talk about warming? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/15 "2011-11-12T19:14:55Z")
LOTS of people have their own ideas as to who and what IS intelligent. As long as she’s clean and well-mannered, I can filter out what she’s talking about with the words she uses. I don’t have a problem with people feeling they’re above the rest when it comes to education, but when they start ACTING like they are … I QUESTION INTELLIGENCE. To each his/her own, but don’t mess with MY BONE! 😉 Some people are **hot** … some just THINK they are. I like inserting **intelligent** in place of HOT. 🙄 But yah … I REALLY LIKE intelligent women! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CMBC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@CMBC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CMBC)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/16 "2011-11-12T20:01:11Z")
I didnt’ read the other replies, but here’s my input: Intelligent women = Yes for me. However, there are many guys out there with inferiority issues who feel they need to “be the man” in every regard in a one on one relationship. If they feel you’re superior to them in some way, they have issues with that. Whether they realize it or not. It’s pathetic really. It comes from the male-masculinity-dominance thing. To this, many women feel the need to downplay their own qualities just to make the guy feel secure in his own. Again, it’s pathetic. Find a guy that likes you for you, not a guy that you need to play down in order for him to think hes “better” than you. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/17 "2011-11-12T20:32:58Z")
Almost all of the _really_ intelligent women I’ve known over the years were neurotics in some fashion. Their forebrain intelligence was used to suppress the natural wisdom of the rest of their brains and was used to facilitate unwise goals. The brain is there to get the heart what it wants and needs. Men can do a better job of it with a really high IQ then women it seems but excessively intelligent men can have the same problem but to a lesser degree. That said, a **WISE** woman with a big heart needs a minimal level of conscious intelligence to get along in the world. Her brains should be devoted to supporting her family - cooking, caring for her children, please her man. Get the woman’s wisdom and heart parts right and the higher the IQ the better. I’ll take your survey now. ---
**Author:** ![jimbobday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@jimbobday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jimbobday)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/18 "2011-11-13T00:59:56Z")
Personally I like intelligent women for Long Term Relationships as I feel they are someone who I can have a decent conversation with and can keep up with me. I like a women who can challenge me mentally. As far as one night stands go don’t really care as long as there is some sort of fun conversation there but for long term I have to have a women that I can converse with on my level. If there level of intelligence is far above mine I usually find I am quite intimidated (This has only happened once at a MENSA meet up). Its all about balance an intelligent women who can still have fun and be spontaneous is my pick of the bunch 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/19 "2011-11-13T01:48:51Z")
Yes we like intelligent women Intelligence comes in far more prominently when we are considering her for, or become interested in her for, a long term relationship If we are at a night club and only interested in that one thing… that night. Then the main factor isnt intelligence but Physical Looks & Physical Attractiveness If you are a PHd student maybe you are too smart for them lol? PHd intelligence is one thing but then there is also social intelligence, emotional intelligence etc I would be impressed if my woman was a PHd student and appreciate her brains, this would be good in a partnership sense, it wouldnt necessarily be the thing that gets me all hot n bothered though I have seen some dumb women, it is not hot But i’ve seen some ridiculously hot women, better than models in magazines, who play “I’m so dumb” “Please help me” and they are so hot anyway, though I guess they are only playing the bimbo to get guys to do stuff for them I’m very intelligent myself, so I appreciate intelligence more in others, some of my meathead friends though might not find intelligence so important I was with a model a fair bit younger than me and she didnt have alot going on between the ears and was immature compared to me, it was not attractive ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287/20 "2011-11-13T10:46:29Z")
I believe they do but not if they so much more intelligent that they push the man around. I believe some factors are subconscious and if a woman if always trying to challenge a man whose not as smart as her (say she has a PHD and he doesn’t) they will not get past friends because things will seem awkward. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-men-really-like-intelligent-women/53287.md?page=2)