# Do mones work on drunk women . ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 6, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332 "2011-02-06T03:14:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/21 "2011-02-07T01:42:55Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Having used mones extensively in bars and parties I can say with out doubt mones are at their best with drunks. Why? Sober folk tend to have their guard up and “filter” out mone reactions. Social filters in drunks are no longer fully functional and subsequently they tend to say and do what pops into their little heads. Nope, it will not make a hot mama jump your bones if she didn’t already want to do it. **However, if she does, she is much less likely to hold back and the mones will push her over the top**. I love to drink so this is a great thing. Of course the door swings both ways. They also don’t hold back on negative reactions and will let you know in no uncertain terms that you suck green donkey dicks and should get lost. This happened to me the last time I was at a bar wearing some UF. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/22 "2011-02-07T01:46:56Z")
> [@lamentofking](#): > > I thought I knew how . I mean its not like I never had a girlfriend before . And back then she was attracted to me without mones . I guess what I wanna say is, I’m not a “universal” choice (like celebs and superstars) to women rather one that can be seen as attractive based off a personal preference. This isn’t attacking you btw. But that’s crap. You just gave yourself a self limiting belief. You have to believe you’re a catch and that you can acheive anything. There is no “universal” choice, I don’t care how attractive, how rich or famous someone is no one can attract everyone at once. It’s confidence that is what will give you that edge. I used to think like that and it got me no where, coincidentally using mones and reading tips from some of the guys here helped me develop my social skills. By most standards I’m not the best looking out there, not the most in shape, not the tallest, not the typical “tall dark and handsome” guy that has that a lot of women drool over. But you know what, I walk like I’m the shit, I interact like I’m a catch because I know now that I am. I don’t need to validate myself to women because it already shows in my interactions. I’ve gotten compliments and hooked up with some pretty hot women. And if we were basing it just on first impressions and looks alone, most people would wonder what it is I have that makes them attractive, it’s not the money, status, education, career. It’s me that makes me attractive. You need to believe that. Like TRULY believe it, you can’t pretend cause it aint ever gonna work and people will see right through you. I’m not saying that it was an easy road, I still get my rejections and let downs like everyone else, but the reason it’s easier and not a big deal is I don’t take it as an attack or a manifestation of who I am. I know deep down I’m good so therefore it hurts when you get let down, but I know I can move on because I have the qualities to make it work. I’ve gotten advice from some of the great ones here. I’ve also read and studied David DeAngelo, Vin DeCarlo, and Mystery. Those are some good steps in helping you become a better and a more well rounded person. I’ve also read into Tony Robbins, and made myself happy first before anyone else. That will show through, and that will make you attractive. Yes the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) help, but you would be surprised what some motivation and knowing how women tick will help you out. Let it enhance your interactions and not define them. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/23 "2011-02-07T01:47:01Z")
> [@lamentofking](#): > > I thought I knew how . I mean its not like I never had a girlfriend before . And back then she was attracted to me without mones . I guess what I wanna say is, I’m not a “universal” choice (like celebs and superstars) to women rather one that can be seen as attractive based off a personal preference. MONEY can make you “universally attractive”😃 famous too…Being like radman is your best bet though 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/24 "2011-02-07T01:56:17Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > This isn’t attacking you btw. > > But that’s crap. You just gave yourself a self limiting belief. You have to believe you’re a catch and that you can acheive anything. There is no “universal” choice, I don’t care how attractive, how rich or famous someone is no one can attract everyone at once. It’s confidence that is what will give you that edge. > > I used to think like that and it got me no where, coincidentally using mones and reading tips from some of the guys here helped me develop my social skills. By most standards I’m not the best looking out there, not the most in shape, not the tallest, not the typical “tall dark and handsome” guy that has that a lot of women drool over. But you know what, I walk like I’m the shit, I interact like I’m a catch because I know now that I am. I don’t need to validate myself to women because it already shows in my interactions. I’ve gotten compliments and hooked up with some pretty hot women. And if we were basing it just on first impressions and looks alone, most people would wonder what it is I have that makes them attractive, it’s not the money, status, education, career. It’s me that makes me attractive. > > You need to believe that. Like TRULY believe it, you can’t pretend cause it aint ever gonna work and people will see right through you. I’m not saying that it was an easy road, I still get my rejections and let downs like everyone else, but the reason it’s easier and not a big deal is I don’t take it as an attack or a manifestation of who I am. I know deep down I’m good so therefore it hurts when you get let down, but I know I can move on because I have the qualities to make it work. > > I’ve gotten advice from some of the great ones here. I’ve also read and studied David DeAngelo, Vin DeCarlo, and Mystery. Those are some good steps in helping you become a better and a more well rounded person. I’ve also read into Tony Robbins, and made myself happy first before anyone else. That will show through, and that will make you attractive. Yes the pheromones help, but you would be surprised what some motivation and knowing how women tick will help you out. Let it enhance your interactions and not define them. > > Good luck. Ha . That’s what I been doing . Guess I’m just expecting too much from the mones alone . lol . Thanks guy . ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/25 "2011-02-07T02:06:53Z")
> [@lamentofking](#): > > Ha . That’s what I been doing . Guess I’m just expecting too much from the mones alone . lol . Thanks guy . You’re still young dude, there is so much more to learn and experience. Things like that just don’t come overnight, it literally took me years, it was cause I kept giving up. I’ve spent a good part of the decade learning and learning over and over again. You just can’t quit at it and keep doing what you have to do to be happy. That’s one thing I’ve learned from this journey. ---
**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/26 "2011-02-07T03:02:36Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > You’re still young dude, there is so much more to learn and experience. Things like that just don’t come overnight, it literally took me years, it was cause I kept giving up. I’ve spent a good part of the decade learning and learning over and over again. You just can’t quit at it and keep doing what you have to do to be happy. That’s one thing I’ve learned from this journey. Yeah . I guess it’s just aggravating that other people learned it already and I have yet to grasp it . I’m used to picking up on things quickly (this topic is an exception unfortunately) . ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/27 "2011-02-07T11:09:46Z")
> [@](#): > > An example of this would be an asian female that gets adopted by a white family at birth. Her upbringing would not be better or worse, but I can bet that [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) that effect her will be along the lines of her upbringing in a different culture and not her specific race. There are always exceptions to the rule but in a very high percentage race does have a small effect on our mate choices pheromonally. Studies have shown that women are attracted to men with similar signatures as their fathers. Of course if a person is adopted by someone not of their own race that could change things. How many people do you know in that situation. Even if they are not brought up surrounded by the culture of their race their father is still going to be the person they pheromonally model their mate choices around. Even in situations of abuse this occurs. In studies on why women who come from abusive household tend to end with abusive mates it has shown there are pheromonal similarities between the father and the mate. Hair color and eye color I agree. There is no evidence that these matter in pheromonal mate choice. Although I dont believe there are any real studies on it so no one can say with certainty. … lamentofking set it and forget it. Then at the end of the night when you get home look back at your day and jot down anything you thought could have been a hit while its fresh in your memory. The reason is whether you try to control it or not when your actively looking for hits you change your body language. It is very hard to control that and you could be coming across as to eager or needy. Just put it on, go out and have a good time. The fact that half way through the party you applied more because you didnt see hits indicates this is whats occurring. Expectation can be read in body language in a few different ways. It can read as you being uncomfortable with your self. Even though some people are not consciously aware of what body language is saying on a subconscious level we read it all the time just the same as pheromone signals. Another thing to keep in mind is more is not better. Your looking to attract a female not club here over the head with your signature. Wearing to much is like yelling, it just annoys people. Another thing to consider with wearing to much. Even if your not at OD levels it can make some women not respond because your displaying to high of a value. This I have seen happen more with A314. Women have insecurities to, even hot ones. Sometimes they see you as to much of a challenge or think “he is out of my league” I have actually heard females say this about the men who test for me. This is why finding your sweet spot range is important. Even when you find it your not going to attract or see reactions in every single person though. Your looking for a increase in attraction or people who are more expressive of the attraction they already had for you. Its impossible to attract everyone there are to many variables. Your 19, I doubt you dont emit the pheromones that are natural for that age unless your in poor health to begin with. Wearing 6 sprays is like screaming “Look at me I am the best catch here” over and over. Think about it… what if a girl was screaming that. What emotions would go through you. You would probably resist for one reason or another. You dont want to scream it you want to just say it loud enough that they hear it over the competition. Whoops forgot the original question LOL. Pheromone’s work the same on drunk people as they do on sober people. The difference is drunk people can read the signals wrong and the drinking lowers there inhibitions so they tend to not hold back as much. Anyone who has rolled over in the morning after a night of drinking to come face to face with a waking nightmare next to them in there bed can attest to the “wrong thinking” part. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![jnoel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jnoel/32/650_2.png) [@jnoel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jnoel)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/28 "2011-02-07T12:53:07Z")
> [@lamentofking](#): > > Well that was helpful but something isn’t just clicking to me. > > Last night I was at a college party . I’m beginning to think mones are less effective on young college kids or maybe black girls (that was the majority of the females there) . I had sprayed like 2x of ammo to front of neck and one spray each of IS to my wrists then another of ammo to my wrist each because I figured it was gonna be packed in the party (it was) I had put this on like 30 mins before the party . So when I got there I noticed no head turns or anything . So I was wondering maybe I need another spray of ammo . SO I took two more sprays, one to each side of the neck . > > The night went ok, dancing with some of the people I invited but no heads turned from the girls I didn’t know . I mean is it that easy to resist the mones (thats assuming they were working in the first place . ?) I don’t think I OD’ed with all of the guys in there . I mean when you OD dont girls usually give you looks of disgust . ? > > I’m starting to think I need something stronger, like IJ . dude that was way too much AMMO. youre talking six shots, and youre only 19. do you have any putatives? if you have any p79 try about 10-15mcgs of p79 instead of jumping right into more ammo also, dont worry about head turns so much. just start conversations and the mones will hit the girls in time. from now on, never go about 3 without p79. with p79 i recommend staying at 2 a really good mix is 15 mcg p74 + 10mcg p79 + 2 sprays of ammo, all to the neck/chest area it gives me a really sexy and confident feeling and definitely does get head turns when close to a girl. you probably od’d right off the bat with 4 sprays of ammo going into the party. be very careful man, and next time you might want to try a few buffers like io or ih ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/29 "2011-02-07T14:12:30Z")
> [@jnoel](#): > > dude that was way too much AMMO. youre talking six shots, and youre only 19. do you have any putatives? > > if you have any p79 try about 10-15mcgs of p79 instead of jumping right into more ammo > > also, dont worry about head turns so much. just start conversations and the mones will hit the girls in time. from now on, never go about 3 without p79. with p79 i recommend staying at 2 > > a really good mix is 15 mcg p74 + 10mcg p79 + 2 sprays of ammo, all to the neck/chest area > > it gives me a really sexy and confident feeling and definitely does get head turns when close to a girl. > > you probably od’d right off the bat with 4 sprays of ammo going into the party. be very careful man, and next time you might want to try a few buffers like io or ih If he doesn’t have an idea of how well ammo works alone, why recommend mixing putatives. There’s an old saying " You’ve got to learn how to walk before you can run" ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/30 "2011-02-07T16:43:45Z")
> [@jnoel](#): > > dude that was way too much AMMO. youre talking six shots, and youre only 19. do you have any putatives? > > if you have any p79 try about 10-15mcgs of p79 instead of jumping right into more ammo > > also, dont worry about head turns so much. just start conversations and the mones will hit the girls in time. from now on, never go about 3 without p79. with p79 i recommend staying at 2 > > a really good mix is 15 mcg p74 + 10mcg p79 + 2 sprays of ammo, all to the neck/chest area > > it gives me a really sexy and confident feeling and definitely does get head turns when close to a girl. > > you probably od’d right off the bat with 4 sprays of ammo going into the party. be very careful man, and next time you might want to try a few buffers like io or ih That’s like going from a Tricycle to a 1000cc bike ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/31 "2011-02-07T18:27:19Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > There are always exceptions to the rule but in a very high percentage race does have a small effect on our mate choices pheromonally. I totally understand what your saying. So instead of race we should blame a mix not working or working on a persons family 😃 dbot has posted recently that whole thing on the avg males natural production of mones and I don’t know if that was ALL races, but if that is somewhat correct than we all produce(males) very close to the same sig. So any amount of mones we spray on is “overkill” to any race so to speak. I just think there are more pertinent factors than race alone to gauge the effectiveness of mones. Like you said in the case of abuse the father doesn’t need to have a high -none sig to be abusive, but a high -none sig on me may “portray” that aggression they are subconsciously looking for from being abused. JUst a thought DRUNK PEOPLE RULE!!! WOOT WOOT !!! SORRY FOR RE-DIRECTING THE THREAD A BIT 😮 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/32 "2011-02-07T19:08:43Z")
> [@](#): > > dbot has posted recently that whole thing on the avg males natural production of [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) and I don’t know if that was ALL races, but if that is somewhat correct than we all produce(males) very close to the same sig. So any amount of [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) we spray on is “overkill” to any race so to speak. Yes I saw it but as he stated that info was obtained from Nbullys blog which I love by the way, but if I recall correctly the study was for the average while male 19 to 40. There are lots of studies and abstracts that do site androgen level differences between White, Black, Hispanic and Asain males. Its not just testosterone though or anone. I agree other biological differences come into play as well such as body hair, diet, fitness levels etc etc. I also agree any amount we spray on is more then we naturally make and the the racial androgen difference are subtle. Because all mones are not one size fits all we can only point each other toward probability. I think mone technology has a long long way to go before anyone understands it with certainty. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/33 "2011-02-07T19:18:39Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Yes I saw it but as he stated that info was obtained from Nbullys blog which I love by the way, but if I recall correctly the study was for the average while male 19 to 40. \ ***1** > > Because all mones are not one size fits all we can only point each other toward probability. I think mone technology has a long long way to go before anyone understands it with certainty. \ ***2** > > Tisha \ ***1** I should have read that a lil’ closer and wasn’t intending to give dbot all the credit for it 😉 \ ***2** Fair enough 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lamentofking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@lamentofking](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lamentofking)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332/34 "2011-02-07T20:33:26Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > There are always exceptions to the rule but in a very high percentage race does have a small effect on our mate choices pheromonally. Studies have shown that women are attracted to men with similar signatures as their fathers. Of course if a person is adopted by someone not of their own race that could change things. How many people do you know in that situation. Even if they are not brought up surrounded by the culture of their race their father is still going to be the person they pheromonally model their mate choices around. Even in situations of abuse this occurs. In studies on why women who come from abusive household tend to end with abusive mates it has shown there are pheromonal similarities between the father and the mate. > > Hair color and eye color I agree. There is no evidence that these matter in pheromonal mate choice. Although I dont believe there are any real studies on it so no one can say with certainty. > … > > lamentofking set it and forget it. Then at the end of the night when you get home look back at your day and jot down anything you thought could have been a hit while its fresh in your memory. > > The reason is whether you try to control it or not when your actively looking for hits you change your body language. It is very hard to control that and you could be coming across as to eager or needy. Just put it on, go out and have a good time. The fact that half way through the party you applied more because you didnt see hits indicates this is whats occurring. Expectation can be read in body language in a few different ways. It can read as you being uncomfortable with your self. Even though some people are not consciously aware of what body language is saying on a subconscious level we read it all the time just the same as pheromone signals. > > Another thing to keep in mind is more is not better. Your looking to attract a female not club here over the head with your signature. Wearing to much is like yelling, it just annoys people. > > Another thing to consider with wearing to much. Even if your not at OD levels it can make some women not respond because your displaying to high of a value. This I have seen happen more with A314. Women have insecurities to, even hot ones. Sometimes they see you as to much of a challenge or think “he is out of my league” I have actually heard females say this about the men who test for me. > > This is why finding your sweet spot range is important. Even when you find it your not going to attract or see reactions in every single person though. Your looking for a increase in attraction or people who are more expressive of the attraction they already had for you. Its impossible to attract everyone there are to many variables. > > Your 19, I doubt you dont emit the pheromones that are natural for that age unless your in poor health to begin with. Wearing 6 sprays is like screaming “Look at me I am the best catch here” over and over. Think about it… what if a girl was screaming that. What emotions would go through you. You would probably resist for one reason or another. You dont want to scream it you want to just say it loud enough that they hear it over the competition. > > Whoops forgot the original question LOL. Pheromone’s work the same on drunk people as they do on sober people. The difference is drunk people can read the signals wrong and the drinking lowers there inhibitions so they tend to not hold back as much. Anyone who has rolled over in the morning after a night of drinking to come face to face with a waking nightmare next to them in there bed can attest to the “wrong thinking” part. > > Tisha Wow . And all this time I thought the mones worked in a way to make you attractive universally . That would explain a lot . I totally misuderstood the concept of mones . I already knew that they don’t make people fall in love with you . I just heard “make you more attractive” I was never told in depth about it until now . [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-mones-work-on-drunk-women/47332.md?page=1)