# Do Pheremones affect more than the nose? **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [November 30, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590 "2013-11-30T16:40:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![iSmellNice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ismellnice/32/1188_2.png) [@iSmellNice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iSmellNice)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/1 "2013-11-30T16:40:50Z")
**Warning: Esoteric and possibly woo-woo post ahead.** On the days I wear mones and have little social contact, I am getting hits from far away places, sometimes from the next room separated by windows. It is highly improbable, but considering it hardly ever happens with me, it got me thinking. Do mones have a further reach than we think or… here is the woo-woo part… do they have some sort of neuro-chemical effect on our “aura”? Folks say [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) makes you, well, shine. I don’t have enough experience with this mone to know, but I do wonder if pheremones have a subtle body energy altering effect that makes one more visible or attractive. Animals seem to do this from far away. They respond differently to different people based on more than pheremones. Here is one of a few scenarios that got me thinking in this “aura” direction: Was at the gym yesterday. There is a workout room separated by a glass wall in the corner. Across from it are cardio machines. As I walked in and out, 2 or 3 girls looked straight at me and kept looking for longer than “normal”. They didn’t all look at me at once. They were not together. And they were way too far away from me to get an olfactory hit. I don’t normally get this type of female attention unless I initiate conversation first. I’m thinking it could be three things: 1. **I’m LOOKING for the hits** now that I’m wearing mones and just noticing people’s reactions more. I really don’t think this is the case, because the mones I’m wearing have given me the powerful self-effect of not caring what people think of me, courtesy of P130. I’m definitely not “looking” for responses. I feel natural and laid back. 2. **The phero-signature cloud wafts further** and faster than I think. 3. **Pheros alter our inherent energy fields** , auras, halos, whatever you want to call them. They make you brighter, luminous, a broadcasting radio for the intuitive side in us. I cannot prove the aura part, yet it is spooky to me that I would be getting hits from another room, too far removed and separate from the other areas for a hit to be feasible. I’ll experiment more. Just put on the same mix I put on yesterday (read my journal). We will see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![jazzysax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbe5ce/32.png) [@jazzysax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jazzysax)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/2 "2013-12-01T02:13:46Z")
interesting question. From my experience I would think it’s the direct contact that makes the hit. Perhaps the glass wall had an opening at the top that allowed the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to broadcast themselves to the other room? Or maybe the vents shared the same duct. I wouldn’t think that a mone would be able to influence people if they don’t have any contact with it at all. Maybe there was a girl that told her friends about you and that’s why they stared. Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/3 "2013-12-03T01:21:57Z")
They could effect the “Aura” but most likely what your experiencing is an effect on your own subconscious that is influence your body language. When we think of communication with others we generally think verbal but the truth is we communicate in many ways. After verbal communication body language is the next most common way we use to learn about and communicate with others. The pheromones may be having an effect on what your saying with your body. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/4 "2013-12-03T02:19:35Z")
I strongly disagree with the statement that it (possibly?) affects the aura directly. While I do not deny the existence of such phenomenon, I can clearly see the difference between the consequence of a change of the aura and a change of your [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) signature. But it may be worthy to mention that aura isn’t a static thing, it changes with for example your mood – now, if the mones change your mood, your aura is affected indirectly as well. All 3 of your points may somehow be a rational explanation. 1. I dont know you better than you know yourself, but perhaps your reason to look for hits simply shifted - you say you don’t care what they think. Fair enough. What if I say you suffer from a symptom called human curiousity? You simply want to see if the stuff works to improve your usage of them, you don’t really care about the outcome. 2. Yes, do not underestimate it. Also, remember, the animals you mentioned can smell the mones from a bigger distance than humans. 3. See my explanation above the summary. ---
**Author:** ![GabRulez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gabrulez/32/394_2.png) [@GabRulez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GabRulez)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/5 "2013-12-04T19:29:41Z")
> **[Vomeronasal organ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vomeronasal_organ)** > > The vomeronasal organ (VNO), or Jacobson's organ, is the paired auxiliary olfactory (smell) sense organ located in the soft tissue of the nasal septum, in the nasal cavity just above the roof of the mouth (the hard palate) in various tetrapods. The name is derived from the fact that it lies adjacent to the unpaired vomer bone (from Latin vomer 'plowshare', for its shape) in the nasal septum. It is present and functional in all snakes and lizards, and in many mammals, including cats, dogs, catt Th... Pheromones are detected by an organ in the nose called Vomeronasal Organ wich consist to translate some hormones into signals. They do affect other stuff such as humor, thinking, senses and deep more. But it all start with a signal in the nose. I’ll try to search a bit on it. ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/6 "2013-12-07T00:05:32Z")
I agree with Mysterion that it’s likely the self effects of the mones change your mood, and in turn change your aura. Even if you don’t fully believe in auras or being able to sense them, you can still make the argument that just a change in mood is noticeable… Anyone even moderately perceptive can tell the difference when a person is confident and “shining” as opposed to unsure or insecure. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/7 "2013-12-08T14:39:52Z")
You’re perceptive, SmellNice. Try some TAK. Tacitus called it _shamanic_. It has a weird, telepathic character. Some test and see it, others don’t. ---
**Author:** ![redlion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@redlion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/redlion)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/8 "2013-12-15T23:03:11Z")
> [@iSmellNice](#): > > Here is one of a few scenarios that got me thinking in this “aura” direction: > > Was at the gym yesterday. There is a workout room separated by a glass wall in the corner. Across from it are cardio machines. > > As I walked in and out, 2 or 3 girls looked straight at me and kept looking for longer than “normal”. They didn’t all look at me at once. They were not together. And they were way too far away from me to get an olfactory hit. > > I don’t normally get this type of female attention unless I initiate conversation first. > > I’m thinking it could be three things: > > 1. **I’m LOOKING for the hits** now that I’m wearing mones and just noticing people’s reactions more. I really don’t think this is the case, because the mones I’m wearing have given me the powerful self-effect of not caring what people think of me, courtesy of P130. I’m definitely not “looking” for responses. I feel natural and laid back. > 2. **The phero-signature cloud wafts further** and faster than I think. > 3. **Pheros alter our inherent energy fields** , auras, halos, whatever you want to call them. They make you brighter, luminous, a broadcasting radio for the intuitive side in us. > > I cannot prove the aura part, yet it is spooky to me that I would be getting hits from another room, too far removed and separate from the other areas for a hit to be feasible. > > I’ll experiment more. Just put on the same mix I put on yesterday (read my journal). We will see what happens. I think this example might not be the one you want to use to give credence to the aura question. Were the women in the work out room? do you have to walk past the work out room to get to the cardio? or vice versa? I’m not doubting that you saw it, or that you could tell that it was longer than socially acceptable “normal” looks should be. I’m trying to picture the situation and get a feel for the possibilities. As to your three reasons, they’re a good start. But let me add a few more. 1. **You are attractive for some other reason besides the pheromones.** You said yourself they weren’t together, they were in a group of women. Obviously it’s conceited to think that you will be attractive to all women, but it’s possible that you are attractive to some women out of many. 2. **They could be particularly sensitive to pheromones.** I’ve had hits over peculiarly large distances before. Others have experienced this as well. Could it be the pheros don’t waft further, but they’re more sensitive than others? 3. **Pheros contact the mothership** and all who have smelled them recognize you as a higher lifeform 😛 It is impossible to imagine all the reasons those women could be looking at you, but just because you can think them up doesn’t mean they’re reasonable beliefs. The last reason I listed was in jest because I believe the science behind pheromones. For the most part they’re just hormones that are made into aerosol form. As for the woo-woo, I’ll refer you to Gabrulez’s post. Jacobson’s organ forthefuckingwin. Science is the new mysticism 😉 In all due seriousness though, if you’re interested in auras perhaps you’re due some study in psychology or anatomy? Many concepts associated with auras (like mood, temperament and MBTI) have been explained in terms of the mind or body. I’m not trying to condescend, honestly, because I can appreciate the mythical nature of the aura myself. But I also believe in the science behind what we’re all doing here. Cheers for giving it some critical thought. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iSmellNice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ismellnice/32/1188_2.png) [@iSmellNice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iSmellNice)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/9 "2013-12-19T16:57:56Z")
I actually am very wary of mystic, new age, woo woo stuff. Nonetheless, wanted to keep an open mind. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheremones-affect-more-than-the-nose/60590/10 "2013-12-31T01:50:19Z")
I agree with a lot of these comments. As redlion stated they probably found you attractive for some other reason than just the pheromones. I also strongly agree with Tisha in that they probably subconsciously influenced your body language, which I have had friends mention to me on days that I have worn them. I think the mix was MX297, Ammo, P75, and P83(could be wrong on this) but I remember my friend telling me that I was holding my self different, he said I seemed high status and “Big Dog” as he put it, which I hadn’t noticed so they definitely do work on your body language. Again as stated many times they pheros don’t do all the work they just give you that extra kick but they will help!