# Do pheromone products really work, or is it just the wearer? A skeptic asks **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902 "2009-07-24T09:23:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ur\_Conqueror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ur\_Conqueror](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ur_Conqueror)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/21 "2009-07-26T05:31:23Z")
plain and simple yes they work i was the same as you in the begging questioning it and going this is bullshit a product like this cant exist.. it litterly took me about 2 hours to just click a simple button the confirm my order because i was thinking man am i wasting my money on somethin that might not work. Eventually i did click the botton and did research on the forums.. When i got my bottles i used IO and a drop of A314 and the results where amazing got more attention then before and seemed more attractive to women young and older man if you dont believe me look at all my posts when i first came to the forum that i was just like you asking the same question ---
**Author:** ![subVerse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@subVerse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/subVerse)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/22 "2009-07-26T10:07:25Z")
I’ve only been experimenting with pheros for about a week now, and I can say without a doubt that they affect those around you. Just today I tried LS A314 for the first time, one drop split between the chin and down the neck under each ear. I bumped into a female acquaintance I’ve haven’t seen in quite a while, and she introduced me to her new guy. When I shook his hand, he bowed his head in what can only be described as submission/ respect. Much the same as what you would see in movies when Japanese businesspeople greet each other. That has never, EVER, happened to me before. I’m the “nice guy” type; kinda quiet, easy going, quick to smile, etc. When it happened, I could only think to myself, “You have got to be f’n kidding me”. ---
**Author:** ![razzCafe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c57346/32.png) [@razzCafe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/razzCafe)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/23 "2009-08-11T07:02:08Z")
What’s up guys, I’m back…I really don’t know what to say, seems the jury is in on it 😉 I think I’ll buy something and simply give it a run, if I lose my money at least I’ll have the satisfaction of knowing a difference or “effect” it may has…but I’ll definitely go in with a positive mindset. Now strange question perhaps, but does this stuff work for gay guys? thanks ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/24 "2009-08-11T07:26:06Z")
> [@razzCafe](#): > > Now strange question perhaps, but does this stuff work for gay guys? > > thanks There is scientific research suggesting that the brains of homosexual men respond to pheromones in the same way as a heterosexual woman, RazzCafe. Androtics does carry a pheromone specifically designed for the gay guys called [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/). Presumably you could wear the same pheromone mixes a straight guy would wear to attract women, or are you a straight guy worried about accidentally walking past a gay bar and being hit on? 🙂 Musk ---
**Author:** ![razzCafe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c57346/32.png) [@razzCafe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/razzCafe)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/25 "2009-08-11T07:43:37Z")
> [@MuskCloud](#): > > Presumably you could wear the same pheromone mixes a straight guy would wear to attract women, or are you a straight guy worried about accidentally walking past a gay bar and being hit on? 🙂 > > Musk The former 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 11:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/26 "2009-08-11T11:20:29Z")
There’s a couple of gay guys posting on the forums here. You might want to read BlazeRican’s journal in the journals section. He experiments pretty widely… with the pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/27 "2009-08-11T15:18:31Z")
For what its worth… I am a new user, just got my shipment last week. Has so many crazy results in so many obvious and subtle ways, will post the journal once I can slow down… It works on everyone else, but it most certainly works on you. I wouldn’t exactly call it conscious altering, but the effect of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) has been, for me, anything but subtle. Ammo also has a definite impact. You will find that, if you pay attention, your thoughts will orbit different paradigms, especially those that have to do with the body language of others. ---
**Author:** ![razzCafe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c57346/32.png) [@razzCafe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/razzCafe)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/28 "2009-08-12T06:13:26Z")
> [@tezza23](#): > > There’s a couple of gay guys posting on the forums here. You might want to read BlazeRican’s journal in the journals section. He experiments pretty widely… with the pheromones. Sorry, is BlazeRican his username? I’ve searched but it says it doesnt exist, have a link? ---
**Author:** ![Niatalya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e19adc/32.png) [@Niatalya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Niatalya)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/29 "2009-08-12T06:58:43Z")
> [@Blazed\_blkrican's homosexual discovery with pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blazed_blkricans-homosexual-discovery-with-pheromones/27842): > > WELL HELLO, EVERYONE! NAME SCREEN NAME ON HERE IS BLAZED\_BLKRICAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO TAG ALONG WITH ME ON MY NEW FOUND JOURNEY WITH PHEROMONES AND HOW WHAT THEY WERE ABLE OR NOT ABLE TO ASSIST ME ON IN THE HOMOSEXUAL ATTRACTION. LET ME FIRST DISCRIBE MYSELF: I am 34 years of age, mixed race (HALF BLACK-HALF PUERTO RICAN), 5’11, 230LBS., brown eyes, naturally wavey hair, and quite attractive in the looks department. Body could use a visit to the gym but that’s a whole other story… ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 8:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/30 "2009-08-12T08:49:42Z")
Sorry Razz, it’s actually blazed\_blkrican. > [@Blazed\_blkrican's homosexual discovery with pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blazed_blkricans-homosexual-discovery-with-pheromones/27842): > > WELL HELLO, EVERYONE! NAME SCREEN NAME ON HERE IS BLAZED\_BLKRICAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO TAG ALONG WITH ME ON MY NEW FOUND JOURNEY WITH PHEROMONES AND HOW WHAT THEY WERE ABLE OR NOT ABLE TO ASSIST ME ON IN THE HOMOSEXUAL ATTRACTION. LET ME FIRST DISCRIBE MYSELF: I am 34 years of age, mixed race (HALF BLACK-HALF PUERTO RICAN), 5’11, 230LBS., brown eyes, naturally wavey hair, and quite attractive in the looks department. Body could use a visit to the gym but that’s a whole other story… ---
**Author:** ![Xman0142](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/13edae/32.png) [@Xman0142](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xman0142)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/31 "2009-08-14T00:23:09Z")
wow instant honesty is really good. It just totally makes people speak what is on their mind. Thats pretty cool. ---
**Author:** ![Vangelis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vangelis/32/598_2.png) [@Vangelis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vangelis)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/32 "2009-08-14T02:56:04Z")
> [@razzCafe](#): > > Now strange question perhaps, but does this stuff work for gay guys? [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) is particularly designed for gay men. ---
**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/33 "2009-08-15T06:18:31Z")
didnt have time to read all post so just replying to the first one 😃 yes this works. my story atcualy i was really good with women, a few concussions(mma fighter, i was good, dont fight any more cuz high chance of death on next few concusions ) and for what ever reason turned me into a geeky loser . lol well i had sex with a few people, lost my v card at 17 now i couldnt talk to girls at all, i tryed pua stuff, got some success (v card flying away) couldnt attract girls for crap lol. tryed this stuff about half a year ago\>? and OMG doors wide open i get sex from girls i want, i get attention and respect, i use this snake oil 😉 to get what i want, sure has helped me on my none snake oil game, im better then before cuz it opened doors for me to work on my game just other night 3 hotties at club walked by me and my bro, me with 302 on, and they turned around came to our booth/table and asked ME if they can join with us, i didnt run any openers or anything on these girls before that. to me they work 😃 ---
**Author:** ![justaguy2116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@justaguy2116](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justaguy2116)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/34 "2009-08-23T20:47:39Z")
> [@bedojo](#): > > didnt have time to read all post so just replying to the first one 😃 > yes this works. > my story > > atcualy i was really good with women, a few concussions(mma fighter, i was good, dont fight any more cuz high chance of death on next few concusions ) and for what ever reason turned me into a geeky loser . lol A few concussions will do that to you? Well crap. I’d better start wearing a helmet 24/7, I can’t afford to lose what little game I have. lol. ---
**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/35 "2009-08-23T20:53:52Z")
lol no it cuz i stoped fighting 😛, and they were a few gooood concussions, and more then a few ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/36 "2009-09-01T04:49:54Z")
> [@Caelas](#): > > Tried TUTH, IJ, and IH. > > No remarkable results like others have mentioned. TUTH didn’t turn up anything, IJ didn’t make me feel like kicking a puppy and liking it, and IH didn’t open jack. Good scent though. ☹ yah, that’s pretty normal actually…from my personal experience and those of newbies from the past couple of months it seems that one or two products from the consumer line works wonders for people, and the rest are either meh or no go’s. i think this has to do with people’s different body chemistries. the one product that has done the most for me is instant openness, which also coincidentally i’ve noticed seems to work almost univerally on everyone. so yah long story short…my advice…give IO a shot before you give up. ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/37 "2009-09-01T11:43:23Z")
> [@Caelas](#): > > Tried TUTH, IJ, and IH. > > No remarkable results like others have mentioned. TUTH didn’t turn up anything, IJ didn’t make me feel like kicking a puppy and liking it, and IH didn’t open jack. Good scent though. ☹ Sorry that you’re not getting the results you were expecting. Sometimes the hits are subtle. Or maybe you’re not using enough product, or not wearing it out enough to detect the hits. Did you test them singly? Trying each one out by itself before mixing or layering them? Where did you go? Did you interact with people or just walk on by and hope that they would follow your scent trail and attack? What I mean to say is, you have to be a participant in the process. Pheros do not manipulate others into behaving in strange ways, they encourage those who are already inclined to do so, to respond to you more fully. We all needed help when we started out, finding our sweet spot and determining what to look for. Tell us what happened, maybe we can figure it out together. ---
**Author:** ![onthornsilay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/onthornsilay/32/1427_2.png) [@onthornsilay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/onthornsilay)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/38 "2009-09-01T11:51:28Z")
u have to know how to use phero’s before they can work… an example, lets say you get a powerful laptop fors christmas, but u cant use it.. you’re likly to say “sod this it dont work” but then some nerd who knows how to use it, can use it to its full capacity… if they dont work, its not the pheros fault.. its YOUR fault… they work, you dont… they work if you know how to make them work. ---
**Author:** ![Juche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e495f1/32.png) [@Juche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Juche)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/39 "2009-09-15T02:45:40Z")
Everyone is different, and the people around you are different too. I do know the products work because I have gotten self effects from them. And of the strongest responder I know, I get responses that match the pheromones I am using. When I use -none she hits on me. When I use -rone she violates my personal boundaries. When I use beta andro she talked to me about personal things she has only told 2 other people. When I used alpha andro she talked endlessly. So it depends. MX292, which other people say is amazing, does nothing either for self effects or effects on others. IH works extremely well both in self effects and effects on others, but I get almost nothing from IO. ---
**Author:** ![Juche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e495f1/32.png) [@Juche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Juche)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/40 "2009-09-15T02:49:16Z")
> [@Xman0142](#): > > wow instant honesty is really good. It just totally makes people speak what is on their mind. Thats pretty cool. IH is one of my favorites. IH and IG is a good combo. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902.md?page=3)