# Do pheromone products really work, or is it just the wearer? A skeptic asks

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902 "2009-07-24T09:23:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/41 "2009-09-17T22:15:43Z")

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I haven’t yet used the IH… have a to-go of it. Maybe I’ll break it out tonight along w/ some other goodies haha

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**Author:** ![therainman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@therainman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/therainman)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/42 "2009-12-02T17:35:54Z")

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> [@idle](#):
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> for me.. it all started with just one bottle of A314..
> 
> now look what i become 😃
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> [http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/idlebg/temp/IMG00150-20090724-1234.jpg](http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/idlebg/temp/IMG00150-20090724-1234.jpg)
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> [http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/idlebg/temp/IMG00151-20090724-1236.jpg](http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/idlebg/temp/IMG00151-20090724-1236.jpg)
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> [http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/idlebg/temp/IMG00152-20090724-1237.jpg](http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/idlebg/temp/IMG00152-20090724-1237.jpg)
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> and yea.. this stuff.. doesnt work.. i just like the bottles 😃
> 
> git it a try.. but … i strongly suggest you try a full botle of something..  
> its not good to start with a to-go  
> you will just find out how to use it, and it will be gone

NO WONDER it was sold out!

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**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/43 "2009-12-02T20:20:43Z")

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Who cares if its just snakeoil and the results are actually me acting differnet because I have a different perception of myself it’s well worth the investment in my mind, plus the products smell great! And in my opinion if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, SMELLS like a duck, its a duck.

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**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/44 "2009-12-03T16:46:39Z")

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> [@Unique](#):
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> Why would you act different? That defeats the purpose
> 
> I wear them so often that I forget that I am most of the time and get pleasant surprises throughout the day and night
> 
> Your attitude is weird to me, just saying

Haha yea I kinda figured I might have to clarify what I meant… Basically I’m saying IF the pheromones, like A314 for example, were nothing more then great smelling liquid and we all were fooled to believing the hype of the product and started acting more respectful and more “alpha” because we were told that’s what the oil does for us (the placebo effect), and that is why we see changes in how others see and us and act towards us… that would be the same, to me, as the product actually doing what it is advertised to.

**Don’t get me wrong though this isn’t what I think is happening here** , there are way to may blind tests on products that produce similar results and from my own experiences that prove these products are the real deal… I just wanted to point out that if the desired effect is achieved, no matter the vehicle for the change I feel my money is well spent.

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**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/45 "2009-12-04T04:43:10Z")

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It works, I cant tell you how many free things i have gotten with my a314 just from the effect… i know for a fact i couldnt get half the things i did without them. Well maybe i could but i sure think it has paid for itself 10x over.

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**Author:** ![Cherub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cherub/32/1282_2.png) [@Cherub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cherub)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/46 "2009-12-04T06:23:23Z")

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dont forget thier 200% money back garuntee that should say they back their product not only 100% but 200%

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**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/47 "2009-12-05T05:40:56Z")

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> [@Phunkyone](#):
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> dont forget thier 200% money back garuntee that should say they back their product not only 100% but 200%

To bad i cant send back the free gift of TUTH… lol ive been testing this stuff for over 2weeks now and i still OD everytime ive done a half spray even … it just pisses me off, still i wouldnt knock it since other people like it. Guess you cant have all mones work for ya.

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**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/48 "2009-12-05T20:42:42Z")

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actually I im pretty sure im just using my TUTH in the wrong way. Im more or less trying to use it to pick up chicks in the wrong atmophere. So, guess its back to the drawing boards and Tests!!! MORE TESTS!!!

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**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/49 "2009-12-05T20:50:14Z")

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> [@tourch10](#):
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> actually I im pretty sure im just using my TUTH in the wrong way. Im more or less trying to use it to pick up chicks in the wrong atmophere. So, guess its back to the drawing boards and Tests!!! MORE TESTS!!!

TUTH can really be used anywhere and anytime, but requires the proper buffers depending on the situation. I’ve used it before in school and in meetings, but had a good amount of buffer on so that it wasn’t an overwhelming sexual or aggressive vibe that I was putting out. It’s all about balance 🙂.

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**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/50 "2009-12-31T07:09:27Z")

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Hi razzCafe;

**The Nose Knows**

"According to new research described in Chemical Senses, ladies consider a man less attractive, if they sniff something repugnant while looking at him-even if; he’s not producing the stink. Pleasant and neutral odors make women find head shots much more handsome than does the stench of bad odor or rubber. According to researcher Charles Spence, “women rate smell as **one of the most** important cues in mate choice. " The above is from an article.

I’m a confident person in my environment, but suppose there’s something that could enhance that mood to other environments, and enhance that feeling of confidence just a little more.

A person oftentimes can see the confidence in another person. What about when they sniff or picks up a scent that vibes confidence. That’s the enhancement that a product could bring to the table.

“ **CONFIDENCE IS A MAGNET IN THE BEST SENSE OF THE WORD."**

[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) gives me that edge, it enhances my confidence that I’ve already have, it “strikes a fire” to my confidence level.🙂

I experience some strange and very exciting things in just three, short weeks.

I’ am not an scientist, yet I know it’s a whole different ball now. As for me, it’s an _privilege_ that I afford to either gender, when I allowed them to chatt or interact with me. I don’t have a big “EGO,” just being truthful; things are easier and better.

People sense they are in the presence of a very special person. They notice me more and display much more interest: that’s important. Yes, the products are effective and I like their smell.

respectfully,

MVKBUGATTI

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**Author:** ![Sugabee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sugabee/32/432_2.png) [@Sugabee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sugabee)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/51 "2009-12-31T07:28:11Z")

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Well I think it works cuz a guy told me I am the most beautiful girl he has ever seen. Now I’m pretty but damn that’s a bold statement and not the most beautiful anything lol. The only other person who has said that (that I can think of at least) is my bf who also loves me, so he is biased. I think it works. Still experimenting on the diff. ones.

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**Author:** ![vell\_soderstrom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b38774/32.png) [@vell\_soderstrom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vell_soderstrom)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/52 "2010-01-03T08:06:26Z")

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LOL omg.. that picture of all those botttles made me laugh so hard! Im takin your advice and just gettin the whole bottle I think I can aford it.. I spend that much in a night just buyin girls drinks in bars lol

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**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/53 "2010-01-14T01:51:13Z")

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simple answer - sometimes it works, sometimes it dosen’t. most users get enough negative reactions from pheromones AS WELL as the many positives they get. Therefore the placebo effect may work in both directions. I am more aware of looking for reactions and reading body language and attraction signals then i otherwise would be. Both positive and negative reactions.

I get enough OD’s form Androstenone to know the stuff “definately works”…and ive had enough good arousal signals with it on to know it “definately works”…it can be great for 1 night stands if u can luck out on a good formula, but in my experience, hard to get into a relationship with it…

In the early days, great results, does half the job for me. As my body adapted to synthetics over the years however, the effects have become quite minimal…these days, ill wear the juice occasionally, but am finding great attraction “mones free” with girls i find id naturally have a chemistry with anyway. Now mones can amplify an existing attraction but occasionally, it has made it worse, usually through Androstenone Od’s… Mones work great with girls u wouldnt naturally click with.

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**Author:** ![mamamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b3f665/32.png) [@mamamia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mamamia)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/54 "2010-02-26T18:56:28Z")

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Which product is the best one to use with my husband just to see if it really does work?

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**Author:** ![Twogunz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@Twogunz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Twogunz)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/55 "2010-02-28T01:17:13Z")

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Nope wasnt just me. Thye chic I was agfter was very standoffish. She started touching, getting clowser, smiling and laughing (I wasnt etlling any jokes). I had on A314, and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). She opened up and spilled her guts. I did what any good gentleman would do… I listened , nodded my understanding, asked a few questions, and then reaped the rewards.

Normally she is not a touchy feely woman, but today it changed,

> [@razzCafe](#):
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> Now listen I’m not trying to troll, I’m not going to say you’re all wasting your money, I’m not even going to criticize you…
> 
> All I want to know is if this stuff REALLY does work because I certainly don’t feel like wasting my money trying something I’m almost certain won’t work. For the people who have tried these colognes, etc - _ **ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY SURE IT WASN’T JUST YOU** _ (and not the spray) that was attracting whatever you’re trying to attract? Now I know what people will say **“well it’s BOTH dude, it helps!”** but I’d seriously like to know how you come to this conclusion…
> 
> Has this bottled-up stuff been tested anywhere else or is it simply anecdotal evidence?
> 
> Thanks a lot…

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**Author:** ![corei7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@corei7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/corei7)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/56 "2010-03-02T01:44:06Z")

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> [@idle](#):
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> git it a try.. but … i strongly suggest you try a full botle of something..  
> its not good to start with a to-go  
> you will just find out how to use it, and it will be gone

So how long do you think we need to test each bottle before we can really see a difference? I was considering buying TOGOs in case it doesn’t work and then not waste a whole bottle

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**Author:** ![antisoshal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@antisoshal](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/antisoshal)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/57 "2010-03-02T21:19:29Z")

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Firstly, I definitely believe and have seen distinctive results from these chemicals in a fairly controlled environment.

That said, I more or less discount the whole “wearing it to the dance club and getting hit on” thing as a self response. I have noticed myself become more aggressive, talkative and confident as much as I have noticed positive results from my wife. I have noticed results where I have not even had TIME to allow for the behavioral components in myself to affect the situation, and in most cases, the results in her would not be precipitated by confidence.

In clubs, the airflow and shear mass of smells and bodies is such that I really don’t think the human nose and brain are zeroing in on someone like that. I think one of the reasons dance clubs are so good for what they do is BECAUSE there’s already tones of pheromones there from all the people.

On a one on one basis I’ve been pretty shocked how effective they are at creating a positive behavioral response. I cant say that I see distinct and obviously delineated responses for IH versus IO or IS, to be honest. They all seem to more or less elicit a friendly and open attitude. 314 does more or less what it says. If someone of the other sex is turned on by authority and respect, then its an aphrodisiac as well. It has as much effect on me as it does anyone else. And despite feminism, women do seem to like a man that is in control of his surroundings and comfortable with them. TUTH is what most people seem to think they are looking for, but its a double edged sword. Without question, if I wear it, I get horny. Sometimes unreasonably and inappropriately so (if conditions change after I’ve already put it on, the effect doesn’t seem to diminish). It seems to work on her as well, to varying degrees. At the least, if she not in the mood, shes more amiable about me being persistent, and takes it as flattery rather than being pushy. I wouldn’t call it the AXE effect by any stretch, but I can and do see the difference in her behavior. The down side is wearing it seems to amplify frustration if the situation doesn’t arise, and much more so than I was expecting. It creates a rather basic, non cognitive need that doesn’t simply vanish if you cognitive mind recognizes your current situation as non sexual. I can imagine bad things happening to people in these instances, simply because they will make poor choices and take bad ideas too far.

I have noticed no effect at all from spaceland. The other “pheromone” that Ive found distinct and almost startling results from isn’t sold here, so I will only say that while it seems like technically it shouldn’t work and cant work based on science, it seems to work reliably and to a degree that has me wondering just how much could be changed if it were used more often. It has little to do with sex, and more about trust. That’s your only hint. It does what it says every time, and almost powerfully. The only downside is it lasts about an hour and needs to be applied very liberally it seems, so it becomes an expensive thing to maintain. I would bet for salespeople it would be seriously worth its cost.

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**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/58 "2010-04-06T12:53:01Z")

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^You can just say it. AD is super cool about people talking about other companies’ products on here. Since we all understand that androtics is better anyways

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**Author:** ![phissith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@phissith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phissith)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/59 "2010-07-08T06:46:24Z")

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> [@idle](#):
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> Welcome to the forum razzCafe.
> 
> i will make it short here 🙂
> 
> This “stuff” works … trust me !
> 
> But remember that its still 90% up to you to make the move.  
> This mones just help you out i bit.
> 
> Sometimes that little “bit” is all you need.
> 
> You can read around and see allot of reports.
> 
> For me… A314 changed my life for sure !
> 
> If you got any more questions feel free to ask

I have a comment,or question too. Do you know of a product that you are willing to recommend to get laid! Now I don’t mean IOI or girls chatting up and getting cozy with you. I want to know if anyone actually gotten laid from this [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) stuff!!

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromone-products-really-work-or-is-it-just-the-wearer-a-skeptic-asks/189902/60 "2010-07-08T11:08:33Z")

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> [@phissith](#):
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> I have a comment,or question too. Do you know of a product that you are willing to recommend to get laid! Now I don’t mean IOI or girls chatting up and getting cozy with you. I want to know if anyone actually gotten laid from this pheromone stuff!!

People have definitely gotten laid but not on it alone. You still have to employ what you normally do to get a girl comfortable enough with you to sleep with you. Its an aid it doesn’t just get a girl to jump your bones like popping a pill to get hard.

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