# Do pheromones help to overcome depressions?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 23, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761 "2007-07-23T06:09:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/61 "2008-05-21T04:04:03Z")

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> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#):
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> This is quite difficult to answer.:o
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> We became close friends after she tried to commit suicide twice in year 2005. After that she had another 2 BFs, but I still cared for her. When she was dumped for the third time and had no money and no place to go, I offered her to stay at my place. Just a few months ago, she said that she loves me but the problem is, her friend loves me too. Since she’s a jealous type of person and capable of repeating her attempts, I had no choice but to keep my feelings to myself and continue treating them as friends.

Just got to have the courage to make an emergency decision at times O Great Man of the Sea, Shah, I remember when you first posted info regarding this girl a long time back.  
So good one buddy, Your a Rock…  
Any good mixes you can reccomend to me old friend, What is your favourite 3 products ?  
Ok sea ya, regards terry 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/62 "2008-05-21T08:59:03Z")

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> [@terry0400-40](#):
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> Just got to have the courage to make an emergency decision at times O Great Man of the Sea, Shah, I remember when you first posted info regarding this girl a long time back.  
> So good one buddy, Your a Rock…  
> Any good mixes you can reccomend to me old friend, What is your favourite 3 products ?  
> Ok sea ya, regards terry 🙂

Hey Wise Guy!🆒 Really nice to talk to you again!  
How could I recommend anything about pheromones to one of the world’s expert?

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/1/13a9c9241ebf87182368380e6c1a50d8c710be49.gif)

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![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/1/13a9c9241ebf87182368380e6c1a50d8c710be49.gif)  
I will only embarrass myself!

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/6/60c72518f2a507918f062c0c34635006452dc2cf.gif)

Ammo, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) & TUTH…but I only use these ocassionally.

I always take your advices whether they are regarding pheromones or not…you have always been my Guru, but I rarely see you here. 😉 Thanks for your kind remarks!

May God bless you & your family with all the happiness in this world & prosperity.

Take care ya!🙂  
(Reps to you)

Regards,  
Mohammad

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**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 11:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/63 "2008-05-21T11:11:19Z")

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> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#):
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> Hey Wise Guy!🆒 Really nice to talk to you again!  
> How could I recommend anything about pheromones to one of the world’s expert?
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> [http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/images/smilies/icon\_pray.gif](http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_pray.gif)
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> [http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/images/smilies/icon\_pray.gif](http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_pray.gif)
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> [http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/images/smilies/icon\_pray.gif](http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_pray.gif)
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> I will only embarrass myself!
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> [http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/images/smilies/icon\_redface.gif](http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
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> Ammo, Instant Female Magic & TUTH…but I only use these ocassionally.
> 
> I always take your advices whether they are regarding pheromones or not…you have always been my Guru, but I rarely see you here. 😉 Thanks for your kind remarks!
> 
> May God bless you & your family with all the happiness in this world & prosperity.
> 
> Take care ya!🙂  
> (Reps to you)
> 
> Regards,  
> Mohammad

Thank you for the reps Kind Sir, Im not in the habit of receiving them usually, Well i have sorta been a good boy lately, hmmmm just a little anyways lol.  
Yea [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) sure did exibit some great soothing action amoungst my femenine aquaintainces, its real good shit, erum i mean it a good product when used with a little bit of skill.  
After all of this time you would have thought that i have tried Ammunition, funny but i havent as yet ever got round to giving it a go, I hear it smells good, But being terry the way that i am i would have to go for the double strength, and then the Fragrance aspect would be a little diluted i suppose, and i like my fragrance to have a relativley good endurance, would probably have to get a bottle of cologne to match with it, maby look around for some Nautica Competition.  
Considering the fact that i have excellent interaction with everyone including children when i use 20 mcg Androstenone i may actually have a go for some Raw Power.  
One of my favourites is Alpha 314 as its just so versatile, I actually thought it was crap when i first started using it I dont know what happened really but whenever i go out with a couple of drops of this stuff nowdays i always notice positive effects.  
Yes my magic little suit is 2 drops A314 and 10 to 20 mcg aNONE, ha ha i betta not rave on any more, but this lil combo is my own personal lil Ice Breaker.  
I have several other consistant formulations in the bag, But i am very interested to see what is working for other users because of the vast differences of our own personal pheromone signatures , iTs a good blast when ya see someone hit on a mix that puts a smile on their face ha ha, because when going about my activities and a million miles away from any thought about the pheromones i have on and when least expect it the phero reactions come into play and when i comprehend the shift it never fails to put a big grin on my dial.

I think some of us users must get so involved with the business and concentration of our activities that we forget to observe what is going on with respect to our Phero signature or whatever weve chosen to splash on for the day, and probably miss out on a fair share of whats goin on in the Pheromone dimension.  
Oh and by the way thanks Shah, your a clever young man. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/64 "2008-05-22T01:39:24Z")

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> [@terry0400-40](#):
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> Thank you for the reps Kind Sir, Im not in the habit of receiving them usually, Well i have sorta been a good boy lately, hmmmm just a little anyways lol.
> 
> Oh and by the way thanks Shah, your a clever young man. 🙂

Thanks to you too, Sir! You’ve always been a good ‘boy’, helpful and a kind hearted one!🙂

About the “clever man” remark, I’m not so sure of it!😃 😃 😃

God bless you.

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/65 "2008-05-23T10:49:20Z")

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> [@terry0400-40](#):
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> Just got to have the courage to make an emergency decision at times O Great Man of the Sea, Shah, I remember when you first posted info regarding this girl a long time back.

You got a good memory, Buddy, better than me!

I just wanna inform you that this girl met with a road accident last night at about 2am in the morning. Lucky for her, she only suffered minor injuries and was given a 3 day medical leave. Some time ago I used to tell her about you and she said that you’re an amazing guy.

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**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/66 "2008-05-23T20:15:54Z")

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> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#):
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> You got a good memory, Buddy, better than me!
> 
> I just wanna inform you that this girl met with a road accident last night at about 2am in the morning. Lucky for her, she only suffered minor injuries and was given a 3 day medical leave. Some time ago I used to tell her about you and she said that you’re an amazing guy.

She said that WOW, some girl, Anyway glad too see that she is ok.  
It seems sometimes when ya stop and think about it life can be so fragile a gift.  
And in reality we have so much in many respects to help us upon our journey when we slow down and take a look around, and its all going on so fast around us and one thing is for sure when compared with Eternity our sojurn is so short with so little time to give true love and to learn who we are in reality and our purpose for existence. Yawn im going back to bed for a snooze,  
Sea u around my wise and good friend. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/67 "2008-05-24T00:03:40Z")

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> [@terry0400-40](#):
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> It seems sometimes when ya stop and think about it life can be so fragile a gift.  
> And in reality we have so much in many respects to help us upon our journey when we slow down and take a look around, and its all going on so fast around us and one thing is for sure when compared with Eternity our sojurn is so short with so little time to give true love and to learn who we are in reality and our purpose for existence.

Very true, wise man!

What more can I say?🙂

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**Author:** ![Mecca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e79b87/32.png) [@Mecca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mecca)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/68 "2008-05-24T00:22:57Z")

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Depression despite what people think is actually a chemical imbalance in the brain. Usually epinephrine, norepinephrine, serotonin, or dopamine or combination of is seriously out of whack. Usually depression is defined as low levels of these neurotranmitters. Any thought of treating depression should be left to the professionals. The prime treatment is medication and if that fails lastly electroconvulsant therapy. How do I know this I am an MD. Antidepressants are high prescribed for depression, pain syndromes now adays anything. But real suicidal or what we call vegetative depression(symptoms such a not eating, difficulty sleep suicidal thoughts etc) are very serious. If you feel this way or know someone please dont spray IS. You can IS yourself because of the situation but get help. Otherwise live life 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/69 "2008-05-24T00:58:48Z")

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> [@Mecca](#):
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> Depression despite what people think is actually a chemical imbalance in the brain. Usually epinephrine, norepinephrine, serotonin, or dopamine or combination of is seriously out of whack. Usually depression is defined as low levels of these neurotranmitters. Any thought of treating depression should be left to the professionals. The prime treatment is medication and if that fails lastly electroconvulsant therapy. How do I know this I am an MD. Antidepressants are high prescribed for depression, pain syndromes now adays anything. But real suicidal or what we call vegetative depression(symptoms such a not eating, difficulty sleep suicidal thoughts etc) are very serious. If you feel this way or know someone please dont spray IS. You can IS yourself because of the situation but get help. Otherwise live life 🙂

Thanks for your valuable contribution here!

(Reps to you 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![Seraphim54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/seraphim54/32/514_2.png) [@Seraphim54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Seraphim54)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/70 "2008-09-21T03:10:19Z")

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> [@Oceanborn](#):
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> Oh dear, this sounds serious. Well, since this is a pheromone forum, the best one for this purpose has to be Instant Female Magic as mentioned. But using pheromones to threat these deep inner issues is like applying water to the leaves of a dried up plant.
> 
> It might be unwise also to refer her to a ‘professional’ help also, since what they do is to put her into another type of anti-depressants (e.g. oral) which is also like applying water to the leaves of a dried up plant.
> 
> The best thing to do here, is to threat the issue at the core, via mediation, or [Emotional Freedom Techniques](http://www.emofree.com/) or some deep spiritual healings that involve forgiving those whom have abused her.
> 
> And yes, your support all the way will also mean alot to her.

Have to agree on both counts. Psychotherapy is good to a point. I spent 4 years in it. But they NEVER encourage forgiving those who have wronged you. I spent a few more years living with the new baggage I got from psychotherapy. Wasn’t until I found Christ that I learned forgiveness.  
My brother has been on effexor (an antidepressant) for over 10 years. It helped him immensely for probably six of those years and then stopped working. But he also can’t get off of them because, even though they will tell you they aren’t, they are addictive. They tell you that they re-balance and “correct” brain chemistry and then you can stop taking them. This is a major lie. Everytime my brother tries to get off of them, he melts into a puddle in the corner and just sobs. This happened so often at work that he was forced into medical retirement.  
But then again, I never tried suicide and neither did my brother. I think in your friends case, therapy and meds may be unavoidable.

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/71 "2008-09-21T03:49:34Z")

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Yep, I for one don’t trust many medicines unless it’s been proven over time. . . like aspirin and cocaine. Whenever I get sick, I refer to more natural techniques, like flushing out my system with water, chugging on some ola loa, and exercising.  
The best treatment for depression is being a friend.

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**Author:** ![Seraphim54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/seraphim54/32/514_2.png) [@Seraphim54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Seraphim54)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/72 "2008-09-21T03:58:56Z")

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> [@Eldros](#):
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> Yep, I for one don’t trust many medicines unless it’s been proven over time. . . like aspirin and cocaine. Whenever I get sick, I refer to more natural techniques, like flushing out my system with water, chugging on some ola loa, and exercising.  
> The best treatment for depression is being a friend.

LOL..cocaine. Don’t advise that either.  
Wish I had more useful advice other than what NOT to do. Still have problems myself after years of work on myself. I guess keep working is all you can do.

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**Author:** ![Puppet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/puppet/32/992_2.png) [@Puppet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Puppet)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/73 "2008-09-21T19:57:39Z")

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**Mohammad Shah**

Reps to you … you are a caring and wonderful friend … everyone should have such a good friend as you are!!

I wish you much luck in helping her out … and please try to get her to a good counselor!

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/74 "2008-09-22T00:04:22Z")

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> [@Seraphim54](#):
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> But then again, I never tried suicide and neither did my brother. I think in your friends case, therapy and meds may be unavoidable.

Thank God. I hope that both you and your brother will overcome this trying situation.🙂

The young girl always act “innocent” in front of the psychotherapists 😃, gave false home address to the Police and the Doctor to avoid them to contact her family and used to tell me that **“nothing is wrong with her”!** And I used to tell her, "Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Of course “nothing is wrong with you”, only “intelligent” people will do things like you did!😃 …and idiots like me have to find ways to prevent it!😃 😃

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/75 "2008-09-22T00:09:44Z")

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> [@Eldros](#):
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> Yep, I for one don’t trust many medicines unless it’s been proven over time. . .  
> The best treatment for depression is being a friend.

Eldros, you just don’t trust the doctors because they hold the needles!😛 😃 😃

You’re right about being a friend!

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/76 "2008-09-22T00:50:25Z")

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> [@Puppet](#):
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> **Mohammad Shah**
> 
> Reps to you … you are a caring and wonderful friend … everyone should have such a good friend as you are!!
> 
> I wish you much luck in helping her out … and please try to get her to a good counselor!

Thanks for your kind remarks, Puppet!

(reps to you too 🙂 )

I remember a wise man once said, _“A friend is someone who, upon seeing another friend in immense pain, would rather be the one experiencing the pain than to have to watch their friend suffer.”_

3 years have passed by since the incident, recently she met a guy and looks like she has finally found happiness.

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**Author:** ![keen\_observer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/keen_observer/32/1432_2.png) [@keen\_observer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/keen_observer)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/77 "2008-09-22T03:07:12Z")

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I know a little about mental hospitals as my job (I work in a court in a state court system) requires me to work in the hospital once every two weeks. From what I can see the psychiatrists make the patients take anti depressants (the call them mood stabilizers), anti psychotics and other techniques like ECT (electro convulsive therepy). All this stuff have very negative and powerful side effects which are almost as nasty as the original problem! I believe that if a person who has a mental problem is capable and willing to seek professional help they might consider a reputable psychologist or experienced social worker (both cannot prescribe medications). A doctor (psychiatrist) usually will go for the meds at a drop of the hat instead of trying other less dangerous techniques. Your friend can go to a psychiatrist if other professionals can’t help her. Sometimes a good therapist to talk to is a better cure for a mental problem than medications. However, there is also a need for meds if the other methods don’t work and the person is a danger to themselves. Al lin all, it’s a slippery slope to walk on and certainly there are difficult choices to be made. If she’s a friend you care about I’m sure you can help her with your continued interest & support. Good luck.

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/78 "2008-09-22T23:44:40Z")

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Thanks Keen! I will remember that!🙂

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**Author:** ![MILFMaestro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@MILFMaestro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MILFMaestro)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761/79 "2008-09-24T18:33:46Z")

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Hi,

On reading this thread, I just wanted to say that this girl, after being raped on multiple occasions, very likely has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

[Psychological trauma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_trauma)

[Posttraumatic stress disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Traumatic_Stress_Disorder)

And/Or:

Given her age, gender, & some of her behaviour, she could also have:

[Borderline personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder)

(if she’s a ‘cutter’, superficial cuts/scars on her arms & legs etc, she’s borderline)

[Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-pheromones-help-to-overcome-depressions/4761.md?page=3)
