# Do smokers get less of an effect from pheros than non smokers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [April 9, 2008, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914 "2008-04-09T04:23:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![electronique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9de0a6/32.png) [@electronique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/electronique)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/1 "2008-04-09T04:23:30Z")
Do smokers have less of an effect from pheros than non smokers? Maybe because their noses are damaged or they have less of a sense of smell? I’d like to hear what smokers have to say about this. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/2 "2008-04-09T04:34:32Z")
Not sure about that but [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) is not about smell. It is VNO thing that detect pheromone and send signal to the brain. Not sure whether cigarette smoke destroy that VNO ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/3 "2008-04-09T04:52:23Z")
not a cigarette smoker but when I have shine on when I smoke I get pretty good results. sometimes I might get a bad come down but generally a good experience. If anything, I’d assume people who bump may have a harder time smelling. ---
**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 6:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/4 "2008-04-09T06:54:10Z")
Yes Cigarette smoke is very strong and lingering whenever I have strong deodarant on or Cologne that usually last all day when someone would smoke beside me My cologne would wear off after an hour of coming in contact with a smoker and all I can smell on myself is smoke for the rest of the day. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/5 "2008-04-09T08:56:13Z")
The VNO theory or how it function or whether it is a useless organ was a subject of debate by scientists. There are lots of these different receptors in human sensory system. Humans have about three hundred and fifty different types of functional receptor, but that doesn’t mean that humans can only smell 350 different types of molecule. These receptors will all bind to a range of different molecules and so what the brain has to do is to look across the whole population of these receptors and identify the pattern of cellular activity. On how [pheromones](https://a314.com/) are actually detected by humans are still being studied. ---
**Author:** ![goodtimecharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@goodtimecharlie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/goodtimecharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/6 "2008-04-09T11:39:39Z")
This is a subject I’ve had some experience with… Some (a good amount 🙄 ) of my time is spent in smoking pits or rooms at the spots I go to. Many people around me are heavy smokers (both cigarettes and weed). After multiple (10 or 11 times) exposures around heavy and often lingering secondhand smoke while wearing Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and the like, I can say I haven’t seen much difference at all. If anything, the phero scents cuts through the smoke smell. Stronger phero application makes a bit of difference, but can also lead to OD with certain products. Another point to consider is that in many cases, the smokers are relaxed by their intake and how the smoking is affecting their brain, and can be more easily introduced to phero influence. Kinda the same as alcohol but not nearly as pronounced. Affecting their sense of smell? Not from what I’ve seen. Sense of taste, yes. Smell, not so much. My 2 cents… ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/7 "2008-04-09T23:54:35Z")
> [@goodtimecharlie](#): > > Sense of taste, yes. Smell, not so much. Agreed on this. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/8 "2008-04-10T00:46:28Z")
I think it depends on the person. For me, my body tends to absorb smells pretty easily. I have to take showers if I’m in places with a very strong smell. Some examples being Korean BBQ places, Chinese restaurants, Casinos, etc. And its not just my clothes, I think my skin just seems to absorb the smell. From the original question however, I don’t think smoke, cigarette or otherwise damages your sense of smell. I believe if you bump however, you do. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/9 "2008-04-10T02:26:33Z")
> [@goodtimecharlie](#): > > _ **This is a subject I’ve had some experience with…** _ > > _**Some (a good amount 🙄 ) of my time is spent in smoking pits or rooms at the spots I go to.**_ _**Many people around me are heavy smokers (both cigarettes and weed).**_ \*\*\*After multiple (10 or 11 times) exposures around heavy and often lingering secondhand smoke while wearing Shine, Instant Openness and the like, I can say I haven’t seen much difference at all. If anything, the phero scents cuts through the smoke smell. Stronger phero application makes a bit of difference, but can also lead to OD with certain products. \*\*\*_ **Another point to consider is that in many cases, the smokers are relaxed by their intake and how the smoking is affecting their brain, and can be more easily introduced to phero influence. Kinda the same as alcohol but not nearly as pronounced. Affecting their sense of smell? Not from what I’ve seen. Sense of taste, yes. Smell, not so much.** _ Ditto. Bars, clubs, parties…decades of second hand smoke…lol…ya…smokers are generally more relaxed…all smokers…😃 …I should probably be dead by now from over exposure…lol. Sense of taste?..agreed…definitely. Alcohol + The El Supremo + The Right Pheromones = Recipe for - “INSTANT PARTY”…if ya know what I mean…😛 whackadoo responses, in this atmosphere, for me…smokey atmospheres need, a bit, more pheromones…careful of the OD is right. 😉 …too much fun… ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/10 "2008-04-10T02:53:19Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > The VNO theory or how it function or whether it is a useless organ was a subject of debate by scientists. > There are lots of these different receptors in human sensory system. Humans have about three hundred and fifty different types of functional receptor, but that doesn’t mean that humans can only smell 350 different types of molecule. _ **These receptors will all bind to a range of different molecules and so what the brain has to do is to look across the whole population of these receptors and identify the pattern of cellular activity.** _ > > _ **On how pheromones are actually detected by humans are still being studied.** _ I don’t think the pheromones “cut through” the smoke, though, yes they do get through but…once again, Mohammad is right 🙂 😉 smoke/cooking odors mixed with pheromones/perfumes…sheesh…the brain needs to process it …anything that hangs as heavy as smoke has got to dampen the effect/dispersion…because it can’t get to you as readily. > [@zeph](#): > > _ **I think it depends on the person** _. For me, my body tends to absorb smells pretty easily. I have to take showers if I’m in places with a very strong smell. Some examples being Korean BBQ places, Chinese restaurants, Casinos, etc. _ **And its not just my clothes, I think my skin just seems to absorb the smell.** _ > _ **From the original question however, I don’t think smoke, cigarette or otherwise damages your sense of smell. I believe if you bump however, you do.** _ It always depends on the person…I don’t think smoke damages the sense of smell so much as inhibits it…smoke hangin’ in the air def knocks it down a notch. Cooking and smokey smells stick like a mother too…not only to clothes and skin but, especially, hair…one of the reasons you never want to apply -none there…yuk…I hate smelling like smoke…not very sexy…blick… An ya can’t smell sh\*t if ya bump, _a lot_…damage?..ya, that’ll tear up your nasal passages. If you/your target has a cold… you won’t be effected much either, if any, so don’t waste your precious pheromones. 😉 That’s the dealio. 🙂 Bella ---
**Author:** ![sugarspice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sugarspice/32/1772_2.png) [@sugarspice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sugarspice)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/11 "2008-04-10T05:31:58Z")
> [@electronique](#): > > Do smokers have less of an effect from pheros than non smokers? Maybe because their noses are damaged or they have less of a sense of smell? I’d like to hear what smokers have to say about this. I know a few who are turned off by the smell of cigarettes. Personally I hate kissing cigarette breath, however, it can be a signature for some if other stimulation occurs when they are smelling it. Like, having fun and wild sex while around it. I dated one guy who smoked cigs but the smell of his skin was sweet. I was in love with him. Yes pheros overcame that big time (I was wearing lots), ermmm we had hot jackhammer sex like three to four times in the night-- everytime we saw eachother. Weed on the other hand, turns me off more. Weed + beer, oh gee gag me. Have a piece of chocolate why don’t we. Weird thing is, I’ve never been in love with any of the guys who smoke weed. But they apparently, have told me the loved and fantasied about me. I’m always left with, I wish I can say the same. Though there is love on a friend level. I do notice of the four guys who liked me who smoke weed, one I would never have sex with, the other three, I wish would stop having sex at one time or another even though they were really good. (No matter how much Pheros I use) But if I’m smoking with them, I don’t mind so much, until morning sex…which is weird. Like, oh, what happened to your smell. It’s not stinky, just different. Oh maybe one round is enough. And I think I have the appetite of an olympian. My first guy, never smoked anything, he just worked out alot, we had it three times a night, three in the morning, times three a week. Phew. Was in love with him too. No pheros on that one. Cloves cigs however are an aphrodisiac. I did have a wild night or three with that one, then I just was ew-ed when he started wanting me more than I wanted him. He was also a weed smoker too. Maybe this is just for me and no one else, because I just associate weed with players who just wants to be intoxicated with everything else but me. Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![sugarspice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sugarspice/32/1772_2.png) [@sugarspice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sugarspice)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/12 "2008-04-10T05:44:49Z")
PS, the cig smoking one had the sharpest nose. He could sense when a woman was about to get her period. He said he could smell the pheromones in their breath and it smelled like dead frogs. And I was like, and you STILL slept with them. It wasn’t pheromones honey, it was a dead frog.😃 That guy was easily turned on by any woman. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/13 "2008-04-10T20:00:00Z")
> [@sugarspice](#): > > I know a few who are turned off by the smell of cigarettes. Personally I hate kissing cigarette breath, however, it can be a signature for some if other stimulation occurs when they are smelling it. Like, having fun and wild sex while around it. I dated one guy who smoked cigs but the smell of his skin was sweet. I was in love with him. Yes pheros overcame that big time (I was wearing lots), ermmm we had hot jackhammer sex like three to four times in the night-- everytime we saw eachother. > > Weed on the other hand, turns me off more. Weed + beer, oh gee gag me. Have a piece of chocolate why don’t we. Weird thing is, I’ve never been in love with any of the guys who smoke weed. But they apparently, have told me the loved and fantasied about me. I’m always left with, I wish I can say the same. Though there is love on a friend level. I do notice of the four guys who liked me who smoke weed, one I would never have sex with, the other three, I wish would stop having sex at one time or another even though they were really good. (No matter how much Pheros I use) > > But if I’m smoking with them, I don’t mind so much, until morning sex…which is weird. Like, oh, what happened to your smell. It’s not stinky, just different. Oh maybe one round is enough. > > And I think I have the appetite of an olympian. My first guy, never smoked anything, he just worked out alot, we had it three times a night, three in the morning, times three a week. Phew. Was in love with him too. No pheros on that one. > > Cloves cigs however are an aphrodisiac. I did have a wild night or three with that one, then I just was ew-ed when he started wanting me more than I wanted him. He was also a weed smoker too. > > Maybe this is just for me and no one else, because I just associate weed with players who just wants to be intoxicated with everything else but me. Who knows. I’ve heard this from a friend. Seriously, no personal experience from this but… according to her, sex while high is awesome. I imagine it being better for the girl than the guy. =/ Also be sure its a good high. xD ---
**Author:** ![sugarspice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sugarspice/32/1772_2.png) [@sugarspice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sugarspice)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/14 "2008-04-10T20:29:39Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > I’ve heard this from a friend. Seriously, no personal experience from this but… according to her, sex while high is awesome. I imagine it being better for the girl than the guy. =/ > Also be sure its a good high. xD The word is ecstacy, personally, really not worth it. The pleasure difference was minute. And i woke up with a headache. Like having the hung-over-who-did-I-do-it-with effect, even though I’ve been with him for a while. Definately kills the desire to bond. Definately increases the need for space, for me anyways. I’ve had great sex base on love, no weed, nothing really replaces that. I have a GF who does a lot of it. She gets a lot of no call backs. I dont want to say hey, it’s your phero output cuz of weed, cuz really I don’t know. But certainly, romatically, so far I’ve dislike the weed smoker vibe/smell/aura, while I’m around it, though I may be extremely attracted to the person. It’s got a repel effect perhaps chemically perhaps psychologically. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/15 "2008-04-10T20:44:05Z")
> [@sugarspice](#): > > I have a GF who does a lot of it. She gets a lot of no call backs. I dont want to say hey, it’s your phero output cuz of weed, cuz really I don’t know. B **ut certainly, romatically, so far I’ve dislike the weed smoker vibe/smell/aura, while I’m around it, though I may be extremely attracted to the person. It’s got a repel effect perhaps chemically perhaps psychologically.** huh… good reason for me to cut back I suppose. Especially if a lot of women feel this way. sad face. = ---
**Author:** ![sugarspice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sugarspice/32/1772_2.png) [@sugarspice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sugarspice)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/16 "2008-04-10T20:50:28Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > huh… good reason for me to cut back I suppose. Especially if a lot of women feel this way. sad face. = Like I said. It might just be me. But I’m the rare people who asks “why do I feel this way.” Could just be the drinking water. LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/17 "2008-04-11T00:08:17Z")
> [@sugarspice](#): > > Cloves cigs however are an aphrodisiac. I did have a wild night or three with that one, then I just was ew-ed when he started wanting me more than I wanted him. He was also a weed smoker too. I do my own clove cigs with the device shown below.🙄 Speaking about weed, the only weed I take is Horny Goat Weed!😃 😃 😃 [[http://www.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku\_11438\_2.jpg](http://www.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_11438_2.jpg)](javascript:openGallery(1)😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/18 "2008-04-11T00:20:01Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > Speaking about weed,… Isn’t that a capitol offense in Malaysia, or was that Singapore?😮 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/19 "2008-04-11T00:28:32Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Isn’t that a capitol offense in Malaysia, or was that Singapore?😮 Yes it is! Malaysia & Singapore impose death penalty (mandatory) to drug traffickers.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914/20 "2008-04-11T02:18:48Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > I do my own clove cigs with the device shown below.🙄 Speaking about weed, the only weed I take is Horny Goat Weed!😃 😃 😃 > > [[http://www.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku\_11438\_2.jpg](http://www.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_11438_2.jpg)](javascript:openGallery(1)😉 whoa wtf. seriously? does it work well? I roll all my stuff by hand. = [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-smokers-get-less-of-an-effect-from-pheros-than-non-smokers/10914.md?page=2)