# Do we want Raw Power & Dirty?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 17, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855 "2008-10-17T16:28:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Savages5CB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savages5cb/32/2181_2.png) [@Savages5CB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savages5CB)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/41 "2008-10-21T18:27:31Z")

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> [@Jedi\_Nights](#):
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> Well, that makes sense, but why are you thinking weight room and not bedroom? LOL! 😃
> 
> It makes me horny, so yes, I believe it kicks up the Test level. See  
> /mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/lust-after-me-od-d-myself-21529.html#post164532

Well, to me, they go hand-in-hand 😃

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/42 "2008-10-21T18:46:47Z")

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> [@Savages5CB](#):
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> Yup…
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> The more Pheros the better I always say 😃

What he said!

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/43 "2008-10-21T21:23:47Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> This is not a typical request for most perfumers. The accurate smell of a human vagina is not your typical department store scent. 🙂

Shit… i’ll get it done in 2 hours or less 😃 or send me you’re trials… i can pinpoint that smell anywhere 😛

~Haz~

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/44 "2008-10-21T21:33:24Z")

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> [@Savages5CB](#):
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> Whoa.
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> Just read the info on Lust After Me…
> 
> Is it really true that Copulins increase Test in men?
> 
> Would this actually help, say in the weight room?!?!

I don’t believe you’re testosterone will increase from copulins… Even if your test level increase… it would only be for a BRIEF period of time - rendering it useless for the gym LOL.

I would be VERY interested in studying this tho. If i could afford my own bloodwork i would happily go for blood tests 3 times a day for a few days to see how long the test levels were elevated… im going to ask my doctor how expensive a simple testosterone test would be… next time I see him.

I’m willing to bet… that IF the testosterone levels increase… it would be for an hour or 2… and then fall back to normal.

~Haz~

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/45 "2008-10-21T21:44:02Z")

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Yah know what… if testosterone levels do rise… it’s gotta be due to your mind getting excited thinking about sex… and then your body free’s up some testosterone… there’s no way it’s an artificial increase.

My suggestion… take tribulus terrestris (sp) - it’s a natural test booster.

~Haz~

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/46 "2008-10-22T09:23:40Z")

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Keep the votes coming people. I have been hearing interesting tid bits here and there 🆒 😛 You will make it well before 500 😉

> [@](#):
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> I’m willing to bet… that IF the testosterone levels increase… it would be for an hour or 2… and then fall back to normal.

This is true, Its a temporary rise in Testosterone and the 130% rise only occurs when copulins are worn by a women. Smaller increases have been recorded for exposure without the presence of a female. Its a sexual response. Keep in mind men tested with higher Testosterone levels while watching porn as well. Women have a hormonal increase when exposed to anone again I believe I read in one of the studies its a larger increase when worn by a male and a smaller increase when your just sniffing say a dirty t-shirt LOL. Either way its temporary.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/47 "2008-10-22T13:29:36Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> We can likely schedule it for after this Thursday, if we have everything we need to batch it.
> 
> We might want to cover this new version somewhat. Maybe use the same sort of cover and diffusion package we have in A314 now.

My personal opinion is that this should remain more “unscented” than A314, but maybe some diffusion molecules will help. Either way, cutting the none content could be good, but it’s probably fine where it is.

I think the biggest roadblock to you selling more of it is the current name/marketing strategy. Way too abrasive.

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**Author:** ![Savages5CB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savages5cb/32/2181_2.png) [@Savages5CB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savages5CB)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/48 "2008-10-22T15:19:43Z")

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Omg Tisha, if that is you in your Avatar, I think I’m in love lol

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/49 "2008-10-22T16:29:30Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Keep in mind men tested with higher Testosterone levels while watching porn as well. Tisha

EXACTLY - thats what I was trying to get at LOL - thank-you.

SURVEY SAYS… Smelling like a vagina is not going to help you in the gym!

~Haz~

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/50 "2008-10-22T16:30:23Z")

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> [@Savages5CB](#):
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> Omg Tisha, if that is you in your Avatar, I think I’m in love lol

Slick… 😃

~Haz~

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/51 "2008-10-22T17:33:41Z")

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> [@Hazard](#):
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> EXACTLY - thats what I was trying to get at LOL - thank-you.
> 
> SURVEY SAYS… Smelling like a vagina is not going to help you in the gym!
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> ~Haz~

so instead of the news on the TV’s in front of the exercise bikes, they should have Porn?

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**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/52 "2008-10-23T16:41:31Z")

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> [@woofie2](#):
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> so instead of the news on the TV’s in front of the exercise bikes, they should have Porn?

LOL - do us all a favor and print this thread out… bring it to your local gym and see if they’ll go for it LOL

~Haz~

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/53 "2008-10-27T05:14:40Z")

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Dirty is too difficult to use right. I would suggest buying Ishine or Isexiness instead and throw x30 cops in there. What you guys should really be begging for is the original mx103. . . large batches of mx103. . . i had so much fun with that _sigh_ good times, goooood times.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 10:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/54 "2008-10-27T10:56:48Z")

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You cant get 30X the cops LOL. 20X is the limit, Believe me 20X will do ya 😉

You could try IJ which is basically the spray version of dirty. If you want slower diffusion like you get from oil then cover it with some lotion.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Gam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@Gam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gam)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/55 "2008-10-27T20:43:58Z")

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I didnt understand the diff between row power and tuth

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**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 7:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/56 "2008-10-28T07:48:56Z")

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Raw power comes in oil form which makes the difussion slower. [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) is also only androstenone (and a higher dosage than Turn Up the Heat) if I’m not mistaken. I never got the chance to try it, but would have liked to.

Any clues on when this very promising “Phero Bomb” will be released Jasmin?

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/57 "2008-10-28T19:50:43Z")

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The way Jasmine wrote about mixing up a batch last Thursday, I thought they were gonna see something very shortly. 🙂

What happened?

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**Author:** ![DssMaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dssmaster/32/1686_2.png) [@DssMaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DssMaster)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/58 "2008-10-28T23:41:10Z")

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I would like to know which product is the same/equivalent as Primal Instinct for men:

Ammo  
Turn Up The Heat  
[Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/)  
Dirty

If anybody knows the answer, or if there is a post in this forum regarding that question, please send it my way, thanks…

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/59 "2008-10-29T17:17:08Z")

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> [@DssMaster](#):
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> I would like to know which product is the same/equivalent as Primal Instinct for men:
> 
> Ammo  
> Turn Up The Heat  
> Raw Power  
> Dirty
> 
> If anybody knows the answer, or if there is a post in this forum regarding that question, please send it my way, thanks…

I have used a couple of primal instinct gel packets,  
Ammo - similar effect if not stronger but shorter lived effects, less OD feeling  
TUTH- Stronger effect over a shorter period of time, (better dispersion and faster results, but needs reapplied)

I would estimate Raw Power and Primal are very similar, but I think Primal would fall between Raw Power and Dirty.

Kind of like [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/).

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**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/60 "2008-11-01T21:55:26Z")

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From what I gather, oils are pretty complex to make as they need to make big batches.

For all you know it could be sitting in a big vat as we speak.

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