# Do we want Raw Power & Dirty?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 17, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855 "2008-10-17T16:28:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/81 "2008-11-22T23:03:22Z")

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> [@Denied](#):
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> Just wanting to push this thread… still hoping to get RP befor christmas

Thanks for pushing this thread there Denied 🙂 We should push this thread before it become old & rusty 😛 I’m hoping to get [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) by the next month like you too.

> [@Bella](#):
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> OK, I voted Phat. Glad to hear Raw Power will be reissued.
> 
> Maybe we can convert some of these guys who think they like NPA so much.
> 
> This product sat dormant for a long time until the guys who had it started reporting on it. Very positive reports that sparked the interest we’re now seeing. In my reports, Raw Power is almost always the base Wolf uses. I mean I love AMMO…but it ain’t Raw Power, baby.
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> Bella

Aww that’s sweet of you Bella to give your support on my poll 😉 Thanks 🙂 Yup me too thank god that Raw Power will be reissued there 🙂

Yeah what you say is agreeable with me about converting those guys who like NPA from Lovescent so much 🙂

I have been following the positive reports of Raw Power for a long time. These positive reports from Raw Power sparked a high interest in other members which have not try it. Aha so your hubby have been wearing Raw Power so no wonder i see good reports coming from you there 😛😉

Note: I’m still not giving up on Dirty & i’m still hoping for it to be released.

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/82 "2008-11-24T17:30:41Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> Hey now.. it’s ok! It’s still coming.
> 
> It was delayed a bit, because our main analytical balance (scale) used for this kind of product formulary went a little screwy when we changed offices a few weeks back.
> 
> This was a nice Swiss made scale, but the same thing that makes it so sensitive to mg and microgram changes also makes it’s very easy to mess up or even destroy. It wouldn’t give a reliable enough lock after the move, so we’ve held off making any products that require custom powder measurements.
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> We received a new a balance last Wednesday, but apparently we’re still waiting for the calibration weight. You have to calibrate it when you receive it, you can’t trust how it comes from the factory due to shipping jostles, local humidity, air pressure, etc.
> 
> Of course, we just had to order some sort of over the top, fancy pantsy, ultra high spec calibration weight that’s only requested by over the top, hyper anal retentive science geeks. For some reason, it’s ships from Wisconsin later this week. I think they’re making it custom for us or something. Eek!
> 
> Anyway, after we calibrate the new balance, we can do a nice, overly precise batch of Raw Power (and anything else now in the backlog).
> 
> No Dirty yet. We still need copulins we feel are good enough to make that one. If we didn’t love you, we’d make Dirty with what we currently have. Thankfully, we do, so we just don’t feel right about selling substandard, non-excellent stuff.
> 
> Ah, I know. We take our time. But… we’re worth it. _grin_ 🙂

> [@Jasmin](#):
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> We’re now waiting on a reship of the labels. They (or their printing machines) took creative liberties with the bleed on the last batch, making everything go off center.
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> Certainly. While nearly impossible to have done for our current cart, we are upgrading soon to a new code base and may be able to have a better system programmed for that. Thank you for the suggestion.

It’s been a couple weeks, I hope all is going well now, I am still holding off ordering until I can get some RP.

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**Author:** ![Denied](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denied/32/1018_2.png) [@Denied](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Denied)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/83 "2008-12-19T09:06:54Z")

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Did i mention that i want [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) under my Chistmas Tree???

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/84 "2008-12-19T09:24:21Z")

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> [@Denied](#):
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> Did i mention that i want Raw Power under my Chistmas Tree???

I don’t know if “Saint Label” is going to play nicely enough to do that. ☹

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/85 "2008-12-19T13:27:34Z")

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You can always leave your tree up for a few months LOL 😉

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/86 "2008-12-19T14:00:58Z")

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I think I am going to buy another bottle of raw power even though I dont need any right now and still have a while to go…I think it is one of the best products you have! Just in case by the time i do need it yo uwill probably be out of it again LOL

For day time use 1 drop

For night time use and clubbing my recommendation 2-3 drops

Now what would be really cool is if you can come out with a product like [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) but add some nols and TAA too of course unscented please =) and i think that would be my holy grail of pheros

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**Author:** ![Denied](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denied/32/1018_2.png) [@Denied](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Denied)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/87 "2008-12-19T14:06:16Z")

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im playing with the same idea… when it gets availible i´ll probably will order 2 of them.  
Just in case…

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/88 "2008-12-19T14:50:10Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> I don’t know if “Saint Label” is going to play nicely enough to do that. ☹

Normally, I’m all about professional packaging, but this an emergency, dammit! Grab some blank labels, break out the Sharpie and have Jasmine herself write RAW POWER on 50 labels. Instant collector’s item, “RAW POWER Private Reserve” _signed_ by Jazzy! 🙂

April and Amy could add some hearts for flair. 😉

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/89 "2008-12-19T16:18:36Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> I don’t know if “Saint Label” is going to play nicely enough to do that. ☹

Saint label? haven’t you heard of industrial sharpies? 😃  
do we need to scare up a virgin or a duck to sacrifice to the Label Saint?

I tend to remove the labels anyway and write a code on the bottle anyway, so medicine cabinet snoopers wonder what the heck they are looking at anyway.  
I think A314 is marked Jock Itch oil, and TUTH is Jock Itch spray.

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/90 "2008-12-19T16:37:11Z")

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> [@woofie2](#):
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> Saint label? haven’t you heard of industrial sharpies? 😃.

I wish _I’d_ thought of that. 🙂

> [@woofie2](#):
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> I think A314 is marked Jock Itch oil, and TUTH is Jock Itch spray.

So, she runs into the bathroom to freshen herself, because you’ve got her all worked up and she sees “Jock Itch Oil” AND “Jock Itch Spray?” (you’ve got ‘em _both_, because one alone just ain’t cuttin’ the mustard!)

Personally, I’d rethink those labels. 😃

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/91 "2008-12-19T17:06:18Z")

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> [@Robbie](#):
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> So, she runs into the bathroom to freshen herself, because you’ve got her all worked up and she sees “Jock Itch Oil” AND “Jock Itch Spray?” (you’ve got ‘em _both_, because one alone just ain’t cuttin’ the mustard!)
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> Personally, I’d rethink those labels. 😃

my GF knows my since of humor and would understand the labels, especially when one is A$$hole fungus spray(instant shine), wart remover(IG). these labels are more for friends and family who would be snooping in my stuff anyway.  
they are in my sock drawer anyway, as the bathroom is to public.

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/92 "2008-12-19T17:53:09Z")

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> [@woofie2](#):
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> my GF knows my since of humor and would understand the labels, especially when one is A$$hole fungus spray(instant shine), wart remover(IG). these labels are more for friends and family who would be snooping in my stuff anyway.  
> they are in my sock drawer anyway, as the bathroom is to public.

You’re crackin’ me up here! But you don’t have a thing for Toe Jam…

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**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/93 "2008-12-19T21:23:34Z")

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Funny stuff guys!!

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**Author:** ![snake\_o8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snake_o8/32/1853_2.png) [@snake\_o8](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snake_o8)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/94 "2008-12-20T19:05:33Z")

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> [@Robbie](#):
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> Normally, I’m all about professional packaging, but this an emergency, dammit! Grab some blank labels, break out the Sharpie and have Jasmine herself write RAW POWER on 50 labels. Instant collector’s item, “RAW POWER Private Reserve” _signed_ by Jazzy! 🙂
> 
> April and Amy could add some hearts for flair. 😉

hey if there woried about consumers dissing on them for the sharpie lable just make it advanced users only that way it wouldnt get into the hands of someone els,  
just a thought 😉

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/95 "2008-12-21T01:56:20Z")

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> [@Robbie](#):
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> Normally, I’m all about professional packaging, but this an emergency, dammit! Grab some blank labels, break out the Sharpie and have Jasmine herself write RAW POWER on 50 labels. Instant collector’s item, “RAW POWER Private Reserve” _signed_ by Jazzy! 🙂

Hehehe, that’s really cute.

I’m not near the current office, though. Since Tuesday, I’ve been away researching locations near the same Intel campus that created the new Core and i7 architectures that put them back on top. (yes, that’s right, I want to draw from the same pool of smart people!)

Gotta push stuff forward. We need to be in a Ph.D laden area again so we can make something like a new Menlo Park. Something that returns to the better principles Thomas Edison laid out when he created foundations of R&D.

And hey, I see someone mentioned NPA. Since we’re held up by the label logistics, anyway, maybe this is good time to release [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) in liquid form. Spray-wise, we could try a version based on what we learned from The Great Androstenone Experiment 1, maybe have a version a large amount of 83, too (not a version which replaces -none with P83), and then really give things NPA a run for it’s money. 🙂

Androstenone is sticky stuff, and doesn’t really need to be in an oil base. TAA is so transient it benefits from being in an oil base, and even A314 to some extent for the “mellow release” that lasts a whole work day, but the spray format gives us more flexibility with versioning and ease of experimentation. All things which help to push things forward.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/96 "2008-12-21T07:03:18Z")

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I am sure they will correct me if I am wrong but I think the guys want it in oil form for its slower release. Less OD and not as harsh sexually as a spray. In my opinion the slow release of the anone is what puts the masculine power part into “[Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/)”. JMO

Not that you shouldn’t make up the version in spray as well. Just having both would be nice.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/97 "2008-12-21T07:08:39Z")

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out of curiosity how is [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) in liquid form any different then Turn up the heat?

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/98 "2008-12-21T07:22:35Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> I am sure they will correct me if I am wrong but I think the guys want it in oil form for its slower release. Less OD and not as harsh sexually as a spray.
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> Not that you should make up the version in spray as well. Just having both would be nice.

You are correct, Tisha. If we only get one product, the oil would be my pick. If we can get both choices, that would be even better, but not if it means the wait _gets extended_… ☹

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**Author:** ![yogalefty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yogalefty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yogalefty)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/99 "2008-12-21T21:19:12Z")

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Would love to get raw power and come talk to me, instant shine before Christmas. Or at least before I start school on the 5th of January! The important buy is raw power, I will try and have my roommate buy dirty when it comes out so I don’t buy everything!

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2008, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855/100 "2008-12-25T21:12:48Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> I am sure they will correct me if I am wrong but I think the guys want it in oil form for its slower release. Less OD and not as harsh sexually as a spray. In my opinion the slow release of the anone is what puts the masculine power part into “Raw Power”. JMO

Yup right on the dot Lady Tisha 🙂 That is what we want 😃 Oil, oil, oil we want it! Anyway thanks to all who have just voted & Merry Christmas 😃

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