# do YOU hear sex?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 11, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412 "2006-06-11T21:19:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/21 "2006-06-13T00:50:48Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> 😮😮😮😮 How did you know?! I seriously spent a half hour last night going through ALL the motions of nearly every one of these IOIs, demonstrating to my friends exactly WHAT to look for! .. Another important thing about body language is for a man NOT to wait until he sees positive signs of body language before he approaches.

Really?

Hey, would you be willing to do that on camera?

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/22 "2006-06-13T01:48:21Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Really?
> 
> Hey, would you be willing to do that on camera?

umm, i just turned some friends on to this stuff…if we get this on camera, we are going to have to mass-produce it for reference material… sign me up for 1… free for the inspiration??? :o 😃 !

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/23 "2006-06-13T01:51:39Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> umm, i just turned some friends on to this stuff…if we get this on camera, we are going to have to mass-produce it for reference material… sign me up for 1… free for the inspiration??? :o 😃 !

I’d like to put it up free on the web.

Video on the web is relatively fast & clear now. Take a look at this trailer for an example:

[http://whatisthesecret.tv/](http://whatisthesecret.tv/)

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/24 "2006-06-13T01:56:00Z")

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right on. great idea. whuttya say,jasmin???

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/25 "2006-06-13T02:23:59Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> I’d like to put it up free on the web.
> 
> Video on the web is relatively fast & clear now. Take a look at this trailer for an example:
> 
> [http://whatisthesecret.tv/](http://whatisthesecret.tv/)

[youtube.com](http://youtube.com) 🙂

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/26 "2006-06-13T05:20:55Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> [youtube.com](http://youtube.com) 🙂

No, YOU… [YOUtube.com](http://YOUtube.com)! YOU!

Uh, what are we fighting about again? 🙂

Seriously though, watch “The Secret” trailor. It blows away anything on [YouTube.com](http://YouTube.com) or Google Video. I wonder what codec they’re using. It’s kind of amazing how they go full screen at high quality, without burping.

Also, you gotta realize that “The Secret” they’re talking about is A314 for Men and [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) for women. 😉

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/27 "2006-06-13T05:42:03Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> No, YOU… [YOUtube.com](http://YOUtube.com)! YOU!
> 
> Uh, what are we fighting about again? 🙂
> 
> Seriously though, watch “The Secret” trailor. It blows away anything on [YouTube.com](http://YouTube.com) or Google Video. I wonder what codec they’re using. It’s kind of amazing how they go full screen at high quality, without burping.

Wow thats almost dvd quality. Its like…burned dvd quality actually. And the audio quality is quite good too. I had to download a codec to watch it..I wonder what it was too.

> [@MHarris](#):
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> Also, you gotta realize that “The Secret” they’re talking about is A314 for Men and Instant Sexiness for women. 😉

“You can have, do, or be anything…you want”

sounds a lot like a314 to me 😃

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 7:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/28 "2006-06-13T07:01:54Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> Wow thats almost dvd quality. Its like…burned dvd quality actually. And the audio quality is quite good too. I had to download a codec to watch it..I wonder what it was too.

Yeah! It’s impressive.

So you had to download a codec, eh? Seems like mine worked straight away.

Hmm… you don’t remember if it hinted at the codec during download?

> [@](#):
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> “You can have, do, or be anything…you want”
> 
> sounds a lot like a314 to me 😃

Gosh, I know. You get so much compliance with A314.

A314 is only a problem if you don’t know what you want. Then it’s useless.

But for a man on a mission, and a strong vision and/or will… it’s just magic. I actually take it for granted if I use it too much.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/29 "2006-06-13T07:34:07Z")

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What you said. 😃

Hey, this is my 300th post!!! Woohooo!

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/30 "2006-06-13T23:50:30Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Yeah! It’s impressive.
> 
> So you had to download a codec, eh? Seems like mine worked straight away.
> 
> Hmm… you don’t remember if it hinted at the codec during download?

I was prompted to install something before I could view the file. I’m assuming it was a codec. I haven’t seen any other site stream video at that quality before.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/31 "2006-06-14T00:06:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Gosh, I know. You get so much compliance with A314.
> 
> A314 is only a problem if you don’t know what you want. Then it’s useless.
> 
> But for a man on a mission, and a strong vision and/or will… it’s just magic. I actually take it for granted if I use it too much.

damn! i just want to give this stuff away for christmas to every man i know! (and to a few- make me comply…make me comply!) 😮

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/32 "2006-06-14T03:30:32Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> damn! i just want to give this stuff away for christmas to every man i know! (and to a few- make me comply…make me comply!) 😮

Not a bad idea.

Hey, you’re in Tampa, huh? Near Ybor City?

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/33 "2006-06-14T03:36:02Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Not a bad idea.
> 
> Hey, you’re in Tampa, huh? Near Ybor City?

well close enough to visit,far enough to technically be in Lutz,lol  
ybor is fun, but when i choose to experiment, i like the local places because i get a feel for whats “normal” first, and then watch for differences. hey… you know tampa! are you helping to [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) this lovely city???😃

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/34 "2006-06-14T03:41:15Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> well close enough to visit,far enough to technically be in Lutz,lol  
> ybor is fun, but when i choose to experiment, i like the local places because i get a feel for whats “normal” first, and then watch for differences. hey… you know tampa! are you helping to pheromone this lovely city???😃

Only been to Ybor once, but it stuck out in my head. Seemed like a lot of fun.

I think the sex industry there helps to pheromone Tampa quite enough. 🙂

In fact, I didn’t even know how extensive Tampa was involved in the sex industry 'till I saw an HBO special on it. Whooo…

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/35 "2006-06-14T03:55:40Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Only been to Ybor once, but it stuck out in my head. Seemed like a lot of fun.
> 
> I think the sex industry there helps to pheromone Tampa quite enough. 🙂
> 
> In fact, I didn’t even know how extensive Tampa was involved in the sex industry 'till I saw an HBO special on it. Whooo…

no lie,my friend,no lie…  
lucky for those who live there, the establishments of which we speak are clustered and have found favorite streets to flourish on, so they are for the most part,easily avoided. or easily accessed,LOL…“save money during the trying fuel-economy by sticking to one street in which you can hit 12 strip-clubs and probably do so walking”…because tampa CARES,…🙄

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**Author:** ![PHERSURF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@PHERSURF](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PHERSURF)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/36 "2006-06-14T17:09:29Z")

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I heard about this guy from a seduction website.

[http://www.store.kevinhogan.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=147&HS=1](http://www.store.kevinhogan.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=147&HS=1)

Looks pretty interesting.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/37 "2006-06-14T22:32:05Z")

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> [@PHERSURF](#):
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> I heard about this guy from a seduction website.
> 
> [http://www.store.kevinhogan.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=147&HS=1](http://www.store.kevinhogan.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=147&HS=1)
> 
> Looks pretty interesting.

Kevin’s pretty good! Thanks for bringing him up.

Curiously enough, when we were sending out products to “Persuasion Luminaries”, though, he was very hard to get a hold of… whereas we got straight through to Anthony Robbin’s primary assistant immediately.

This was with a warm referral through John LaValle, who created “Persuasion Engineering” and runs Richard Bandler’s office (Richard created NLP and DHE!). It’s about as warm as referral as you can get in this industry!

Kevin has some great content, but I’m not sure his office is fully staffed. What good is persuasion, after all, if nobody can then get a hold of you to give you money? 🙂

Anyway, great reminder… think we’ll give him a ring again soon. I’d love to offer some of his material here.

Pheromones after all are merely influence oriented “tactics”, and it’s nice to have an overall strategy or framework to best utlize them.

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**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/38 "2006-06-18T02:41:29Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> This is my favorite snip of the lot.
> 
> When I evaluate mixes (or give products to friends to evaluate) I have a running checklist of things to watch out for. Since I’m a femme, I have a little insider insight to what us crazy XX’s are doing to vye for your masculine attention.
> 
> Actually…
> 
> To make my job a little easier…
> 
> Dancing\_Joker wrote me a _fantastically_ comprehensive sum-up email on what he looks for in IOI, and hopefully he won’t mind if I post it up here for all to benefit from. If you do, pal, go ahead and hit me with the inflatable mallet.
> 
> So here I bring you…
> 
> **the _UNAUTHORIZED_, ULTRA COMPREHENSIVE, _STOLEN VERBATIM FROM PERSONAL EMAIL_ IOI CHECKLIST**!
> 
> - **Yawning** : sudden yawning as if tired or very relaxed, and then resume the other signs of arousal
> - **Tongue & Lip Action** : Lots of extending tongues and licking lips, especially as after initial exposure (in as little as 5 seconds)
> - **Biting Lips:** Curling lips inward and tightly due to intense feelings
> - **Hair Flipping, Brushing, and Tossing:** Spontaneous and wild brushing and flipping of the hair
> - **Crossing Legs:** Frequent crossing and uncrossing of legs back and forth
> - **Opened Legs:** Sitting with legs wide open or leaning far forward on the seat
> - **Squeezed Legs:** Bringing the legs together suddenly and squeezing them shut
> - **Offset Butts:** Butts shifted excessively to one side of the seat
> - **Leg Twitching:** Legs and hips/butt twitching suddenly
> - **Body Twitching:** Body flinches and twitches suddenly (jolts of intense sensations)
> - **Head Rolling:** Head leaning far back and eyes closed, as if in a sexually intense, relaxed position
> - **Body Stretching:** Extending the whole body out and stretching
> - **Skin Flush:** The face, chest or skin become flushed and very red (blushing to outright lobster red)
> - **Sighing & Deep Breathing:** Heavy breathing as if overwhelmed by intense sensations
> - **Fluttering Eyes:** Eyes roll back and/or flutter wildly
> - **Fiddling:** Playing with jewelry or clothing or fiddling their fingers nonstop to distract attention
> - **Bags on Laps:** Use of bags to cover stirring sensations and reactions in the crotch area
> - **Make Up:** Suddenly feels the need to put on make up or perfume
> - **Flexing the Body:** Double handed grabbing of or leaning back from poles in flagrant ways
> - **Busy Legs:** Rocking back and forth, changing leg stances nonstop, hopping back & forth on legs
> - **Nervous Legs:** Rocking crossed legs while sitting, standing on toes, shaking up and down
> - **Supressed Smiles & Grins:** Trying to shyly conceal arousal with a suppressed grin 🙂
> - **Running Away:** Several subjects have gotten up from seats or walked away after too much excitement and arousal was built up!
> - **Thermogenesis** : The subject generates a lot of heat from excitement, and starts removing or loosening layers of clothing to compensate
> - **Looking Up & Behind:** Really bizarre reaction - women will look up and behind them, as if someone was talking to them from there
> - **The Blank Stare:** Becoming subdued and quiet suddenly, looking down or forward
> - **Talking to Oneself:** This is when the subject starts talking to herself as if in disbelief that she is getting so horny 😉
> - **Burning the VNO:** This is probably one of the most unusual effects - Some subjects will exhibit a suddenly burning or rushing sensation in part of their nose, yet it has nothing to do with smell. They react suddenly for a few seconds, and then everything is normal again except for the building arousal of course … I think it’s somehow affecting some part of the nose that’s sensitive to mones.  
> Hope that helps you guys out! 🙂😉

😮 Jasmin!!! It’ll be 12 lashes o’ de Cat o’ Nine Tails for ye fer spillin’ de beans!!! LOL 😃

Nah, I don’t mind you posting the list 😛

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/39 "2006-06-18T04:00:23Z")

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> [@Dancing\_Joker](#):
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> 😮 Jasmin!!! It’ll be 12 lashes o’ de Cat o’ Nine Tails for ye fer spillin’ de beans!!! LOL 😃
> 
> Nah, I don’t mind you posting the list 😛

Very interesting list… care to give us some insight as to how you came up with it?

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**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-hear-sex/412/40 "2006-06-18T04:36:25Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> Very interesting list… care to give us some insight as to how you came up with it?

I’ve been researching IOI’s for quite a while now since I want to be able to identify whether any mone mixes I come up with have any discernable effects. I’ve read up quite a few books regarding how women express interest in men both consciously and subconsciously, but it took quite a long time before I felt comfortable enough and became sufficiently aware of my surroundings and women’s reactions so that I could start getting a “feel” for IOI’s.

I’ve been doing some extensive testing over the past few months in venues such as restaurants, trains and the work place. At first, it took significant focus and awareness to observe how women were responding and to classify which reactions were due to mones and which were unrelated. The key is to be patient and observant and learning to sense a change in behavior or subtle shifts in responses. After a while, it almost became intuitive spotting all the different IOI’s that were elicited, although some of them were so blatantly obvious that a blind man could sense it 😉

The funny thing is before I started using mones and learning all about IOI’s, I used to never pay attention to how women would respond to me. It’s just amazing how much you can miss if you’re not tuned in to look for it! 😮

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