# Do you put much value in this IOI?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-put-much-value-in-this-ioi/49239>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 10, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-put-much-value-in-this-ioi/49239 "2011-03-10T03:49:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-put-much-value-in-this-ioi/49239/1 "2011-03-10T03:49:51Z")

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I notice when I wear my mix of **A314, 4x IO, 4x IH** , I get noticed a lot more. By both men and women.

Concerning the women, I find I make eye contact more easily with them (instead of getting ignored like usual).

Now my question is, I’m sure you’ve heard of the IOI where when you first make eye contact the girl is interested if she breaks off downwards, and uninterested if she breaks off to the side. I think it has something to do with submission and was wondering if you guys put any value in this?

So do you feel that:

a) It means she is attracted/interested a bit

b) Intimidated and scared by you and doesn’t want to be approached by you

c) Means absolutely nothing

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**Author:** ![sugarplum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sugarplum/32/2259_2.png) [@sugarplum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sugarplum)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-put-much-value-in-this-ioi/49239/2 "2011-03-10T04:09:35Z")

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I think there might be truth to your theory. If I am interested I quickly look down because I am embarrassed and don’t want the guy to think I am interested if he is not. If I am not interested I just look to the side because its like I just take my attention somewhere else. If you think about it, if someone looks down they’re probably still thinking about you because there’s not much to focus on by looking down.

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-put-much-value-in-this-ioi/49239/3 "2011-03-10T04:32:28Z")

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It has nothing to do with submission, it’s about accessing parts of the brain.

Look up NLP eye accessing cues. 🆒

It’s pretty much what sugarplum says she experiences but explains the science behind why.

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**Author:** ![masu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@masu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/masu)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-put-much-value-in-this-ioi/49239/4 "2011-03-10T04:42:04Z")

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Hmm, thanks a lot guys. I love this kind of stuff.

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**Author:** ![jnoel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jnoel/32/650_2.png) [@jnoel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jnoel)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-put-much-value-in-this-ioi/49239/5 "2011-03-10T16:34:55Z")

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i believe looking down is when a girl feels an emotion, thats what signals the attraction. when you make the eye contact, its best to smile. then if shes smiles back, then its definitely a sign

one time i made eye contact walking towards a girl in my class, she did the whole smile, look down, and hair flip all in one. that was a definite ioi