# Do you shower with soap, shower gels, axe, or anything?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 31, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-shower-with-soap-shower-gels-axe-or-anything/45550 "2011-01-31T04:43:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![dingo11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@dingo11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dingo11)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-shower-with-soap-shower-gels-axe-or-anything/45550/1 "2011-01-31T04:43:42Z")

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Sorry for the newb question…but I have been starting to wonder if I am doing myself a disservice by wearing scented body lotion…whether its lever 2000, dial magnetic (what I use right now), axe, or anything…versus standard soap.

I think what confuses me is we all have our built in natural phermones correct? So are we smothering/covering them even if we use simple soap?

When using synthetic phermones…are we “extending” our built in phermones..almost like they merge together and become something unique to our own bodies, or are the phermones meant to be something different from us? Do you run into a problem with a woman if you use phermones daily…and suddenly stop…aka like a wife?

Also, TUTH says to not use around children? Seems weird if you ask me…I mean I want to try TUTH for my first phermone experience…wife is a stay at home mother with 2 kids, so unless we are going out on the town…I end up home with her and the kids at night…I mean honestly what happens to kids who are around phermones? seems weird.

But I am curious about the body scent and if I plan on using phermones like TUTH, do I switch to a basic body cleanser versus a fancy marketed one like lever or dial?

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-shower-with-soap-shower-gels-axe-or-anything/45550/2 "2011-01-31T04:57:55Z")

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> [@dingo11](#):
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> Sorry for the newb question…but I have been starting to wonder if I am doing myself a disservice by wearing scented body lotion…whether its lever 2000, dial magnetic (what I use right now), axe, or anything…versus standard soap.
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> I think what confuses me is we all have our built in natural phermones correct? So are we smothering/covering them even if we use simple soap?
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> When using synthetic phermones…are we “extending” our built in phermones..almost like they merge together and become something unique to our own bodies, or are the phermones meant to be something different from us? Do you run into a problem with a woman if you use phermones daily…and suddenly stop…aka like a wife?

You got it wrong man. Mones aren’t magic love potions; if you suddenly stop wearing them, then your wife is not going to know you 😃. No lol.  
Mones are just signals to others that communicate better “qualities” about you.

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> Also, TUTH says to not use around children? Seems weird if you ask me…I mean I want to try TUTH for my first phermone experience…wife is a stay at home mother with 2 kids, so unless we are going out on the town…I end up home with her and the kids at night…I mean honestly what happens to kids who are around phermones? seems weird.

Apply TUTH just before bed 😉. Around children they might think it’s too strong and you just might confuse them with the strong signal you are projecting. It’s not EXTREMELY dangerous (life or death) if you do use it around them, however a lighter product like ISHINE or IO will work very good with them. Even IG and/or A314 will do just fine.

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> But I am curious about the body scent and if I plan on using phermones like TUTH, do I switch to a basic body cleanser versus a fancy marketed one like lever or dial?

Don’t worry too much about the whole dilemma. Take a shower just like you usually do. Make sure just to give scrub carefully where you spray your mones. Also if you use heavy products such as: TUTH, IG, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or IJ, you might want to take a day or two off after you wear them, as you might experience OD from residue.

Life’s Simple 🙂.

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**Author:** ![dingo11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@dingo11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dingo11)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-shower-with-soap-shower-gels-axe-or-anything/45550/3 "2011-01-31T05:15:14Z")

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> [@PheroJack](#):
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> You got it wrong man. Mones aren’t magic love potions; if you suddenly stop wearing them, then your wife is not going to know you 😃. No lol.  
> Mones are just signals to others that communicate better “qualities” about you.
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> Apply TUTH just before bed 😉. Around children they might think it’s too strong and you just might confuse them with the strong signal you are projecting. It’s not EXTREMELY dangerous (life or death) if you do use it around them, however a lighter product like ISHINE or IO will work very good with them. Even IG and/or A314 will do just fine.
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> Don’t worry too much about the whole dilemma. Take a shower just like you usually do. Make sure just to give scrub carefully where you spray your mones. Also if you use heavy products such as: TUTH, IG, Ammo or IJ, you might want to take a day or two off after you wear them, as you might experience OD from residue.
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> Life’s Simple 🙂.

Thanks for clarifying. The kids are young…so not sure about how they would determine what I am projecting LOL

So you are saying if I use dial magnetic…it won’t interfer with TUTH or anything? Granted, I would use that with my morning shower…then use TUTH before bed since it would make no sense to wear it to work.

Is TUTH supposed to work quickly?

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-shower-with-soap-shower-gels-axe-or-anything/45550/4 "2011-01-31T05:22:53Z")

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> [@dingo11](#):
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> Thanks for clarifying. The kids are young…so not sure about how they would determine what I am projecting LOL
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> So you are saying if I use dial magnetic…it won’t interfer with TUTH or anything? Granted, I would use that with my morning shower…then use TUTH before bed since it would make no sense to wear it to work.
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> Is TUTH supposed to work quickly?

Yes that’s right. Dial magnetic and then use TUTH at night. Spray it and wait 3 minutes and you are good to go 😉

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-shower-with-soap-shower-gels-axe-or-anything/45550/5 "2011-01-31T10:42:48Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Sorry for the newb question…but I have been starting to wonder if I am doing myself a disservice by wearing scented body lotion…whether its lever 2000, dial magnetic (what I use right now), axe, or anything…versus standard soap.

Hygiene is not a friend to natural [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). You dont smother them you wash them away. Of course your body secretes more but most people shower daily in this day and age and I feel this has effected pheromone communication greatly.

Not using soap is not going to help really. You need to be clean but having access to synthetic mones helps bring back that pheromonal signal. The cool thing is before you didnt have a choice in what signal your sending and with AD products you do.

Dial magnetic has pheromones in it, While its very mild its a good product IMO.

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> Do you run into a problem with a woman if you use phermones daily…and suddenly stop…aka like a wife?

Not really. Pheromones evoke a feeling or mood and people are responding to that mood. Humans remember how people make us feel so unless you do something to change that feeling it remains. Not always as prominent as when they are exposed to the mones but its there in the subconscious mind.

For instance Ishine is upbeat warm happy magnetic. They get a comfortable happy warm feeling around you. If you stop wearing it they remember that. If you suddenly act like a dick all the time then they will change there preconceived notions about you. You would have to repeatedly be a dick though. Keep in mind your wife knows you so repeated exposure to the mones will probably be necessary to see the best results. You have to reprogram her preconceived notions in that way to.

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> Also, TUTH says to not use around children? Seems weird if you ask me…I mean I want to try TUTH for my first phermone experience…wife is a stay at home mother with 2 kids, so unless we are going out on the town…I end up home with her and the kids at night…I mean honestly what happens to kids who are around phermones? seems weird.

Nothing bad happens to kids around mones. Keep in mind that children bond not only with you verbally they bond with you pheromonally. Thats how babies know there mom and dad. Its why little kids are usually good judges of character. If they dont like someone there is usually a reason. Once we grow up and we develop other forms of communication we rely more on those because they are more in the consciousness.

TUTH or anone heavy products have a strong aggressive masculine vibe that can sometimes scare kids or make them nervous. However if these are your kids they already know you and have a trust and comfort level with you (hopefully) and they should be fine. I wouldn’t wear it around other kids or there little friends when they come over though. Kids are more apt to notice mones. When my kids were little and I used them they asked me why I smelled different. They are more conscious of pheromone communication. Your mom and dad will be to. They ask things like… Are you ok ? Is something wrong ? Its not that they feel something is wrong with you they just sense a difference in there child and are trying to figure it out. Some sense it and dont say anything. It depends on how close you are with them. It all happens on a subconscious level though they dont say did you change your pheromones.

Kids react to all mones pretty much to some extent. The softer happy fun mones they love like IO IH Ishine. A314 can be useful sometimes if they are a bit unruly so remember that for when they become teens LOL

All and all once they see your the same guy you have always been just enhanced a bit they adjust fine to mones.

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> But I am curious about the body scent and if I plan on using pheromones like TUTH, do I switch to a basic body cleanser versus a fancy marketed one like lever or dial?

The only time I suggest changing soap is when the scent of the actual mones seems to make you stinky quickly. Not the cover scent in the mones but the actual mones themselves. We all have bacteria on are bodies that feed on things like mones. Your sweat doesnt stink until it comes in contact with these bacterias. If you find you smell like BO while using mones then use anti bacterial soap. If its not a problem use what ever you like.

Keep in mind not everyone has this problem. We are all biologically different and we have environmental differences as well. Some people only have this problem in the real hot months. You have to learn how these products work with you and once you do you will be fine.

Tisha 😉

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**Author:** ![dingo11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@dingo11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dingo11)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-you-shower-with-soap-shower-gels-axe-or-anything/45550/6 "2011-01-31T18:31:13Z")

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Thanks for the additional info.

I think I will try some travel sizes and see how things go. I need to do the intro 🙂
