# Does Androstenol affect men negatively?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 10, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667 "2006-09-10T22:00:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![excalibur87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c37758/32.png) [@excalibur87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/excalibur87)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/1 "2006-09-10T22:00:27Z")

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Hello, I found this article on the internet and hope the translation is felicitous 😃 :

Men and women react differently to various smells. Men produce in increased concentrations of Androstenol and Androstenone (which are found in urine, fatty/adipose tissue and sweat from the arm pit).

[Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are substances, which are outward/spread out on other individuals and have a positive effect on similar people.

**Androstenol** (in the fresh urine and arm pit sweat) **works repelling/rejecting to men** and friendly to women. Androstenone affects both sexes dissociating. The rejecting attitude stops during ovulation!

What do you think about it, I have never head that Androstenol affect men negatively!😕

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/2 "2006-09-10T22:43:49Z")

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> [@excalibur87](#):
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> Hello, I found this article on the internet and hope the translation is felicitous 😃 :
> 
> Men and women react differently to various smells. Men produce in increased concentrations of Androstenol and Androstenone (which are found in urine, fatty/adipose tissue and sweat from the arm pit).
> 
> Pheromones are substances, which are outward/spread out on other individuals and have a positive effect on similar people.
> 
> **Androstenol** (in the fresh urine and arm pit sweat) **works repelling/rejecting to men** and friendly to women. Androstenone affects both sexes dissociating. The rejecting attitude stops during ovulation!
> 
> What do you think about it, I have never head that Androstenol affect men negatively!😕

if experts in every field of chemistry told me that, i would laugh and walk away. not because i know much, because im a newbie, but i also know what experience has shown me.  
when you wear 'nol, do you personally feel negatively affected???  
every man i know likes it and wants to be around it. that does not AT ALL sound like repelling to me!  
put what you know above what you hear. 🙂

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**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/3 "2006-09-10T22:47:14Z")

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GUYS LOVE me when i wear Androstenol!!!😃

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**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/4 "2006-09-11T01:49:35Z")

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That article reminded me of someone trying to stick the round shape in the square hole.

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**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/5 "2006-09-11T01:59:36Z")

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I suppose VERY large quantities of androstenol will affect you negatively; it would give the impression that you are a very young very weak male or something.

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/6 "2006-09-11T02:48:41Z")

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lol… males will love you.. but think also of how girls will feel towards you too.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/7 "2006-09-11T03:05:25Z")

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> [@thomaslavoie](#):
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> I suppose VERY large quantities of androstenol will affect you negatively; it would give the impression that you are a very young very weak male or something.

actually, i dont think its gives the sense of extremely young… young men have high 'none signitures.  
i think its fun and breaks the ice plenty, but i dont think anyone really wears it all alone anyway. adding even a drop of 'none (TUTH,RAW P,even Ammo) would kill any girlyman vibes. nol seems to say easygoing, fun, not serious. not necessarily weak. maybe passive? some gals dig that.😃

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**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/8 "2006-09-11T13:28:23Z")

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> [@thomaslavoie](#):
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> I suppose VERY large quantities of androstenol will affect you negatively; it would give the impression that you are a very young very weak male or something.

Tom, do not know about very large quantities, or the weak description, but my in my own experience, above average anol by itself makes people want to chat, laugh, drop work, have fun and go party ..

Important to note .. they’ll look up to you, expecting you lead that spirit you initiated, take them out, pull a party together, etc.

Just like any other pheros you use, it signifies your current mood, maybe lift it a bit, but they won’t completely change it.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/9 "2006-09-11T14:00:52Z")

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I haven’t seen anything that indicates that high amounts of androstenol causes a ‘weakening effect’. I’m actually more aggressive, at least socially, when I incorporate use androstenol. In fact, androstenol can project an alpha type of image, by putting you smack dab in the center of social attention.

Dienone is definately a [pheromone](https://a314.com/) that has a weakening characteristics to it

Excessive alpha nol can make people, both men and women, light headed and cause headaches. I only noticed this happening to myself and others once I started using IO, which apparantly is _that_ much more potent than SOE.

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**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2006, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/10 "2006-09-11T23:14:55Z")

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Sigma,

Do you find that IO has the same effects as SOE? Or different. SOE is quite musky but I don’t get that with IO, so maybe the ingredients are quite a bit different. What do you think?

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/11 "2006-09-12T02:28:00Z")

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Alpha Androstenol makes you seem youthful and friendly, in my opinion… It’s not good to wear a lot of if you’re trying to project “Alpha Male” to the world. That’s where it weakens you. It doesn’t make you seem weak, it just doesn’t make you seem aggressive and dominant. It makes you too friendly seeming. But you can, as Sigma says, use this effect to your “alpha Advantage” by having it make you seem like the life of the party. When everyone’s feeling good around you and having a good time around you, your popularity goes up and thus your perceived social value.

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**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/12 "2006-09-12T03:48:30Z")

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If that’s the case, would Androstenol weaken A314 then ? Just like IS ( apparently ) does?

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/13 "2006-09-12T04:14:54Z")

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> [@nfs](#):
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> If that’s the case, would Androstenol weaken A314 then ? Just like IS ( apparently ) does?

Depends on how you look at it, and it really depends on what you’re going for.

On one end, Alpha Nol tends to make people more open and receptive to you, thus making them more receptive to the positive effects of A314. This is also buffers against the distancing effect that A314 can often have.

On another note, alpha-nol does detract from the mysterious inner-intensity of A314, by making you a little too up-beat, open, and easy-going, when used excessively.

I’m seeing great results with A314 and IO (alpha-nol) based mixes currently. The synergy created by the two products projects a ‘socially alpha’ type of image, which is most beneficial in the types of interactions I’m in. Mixes high in A314 and none create too much distance, and while it might create a strong alpha image in some aspects, the distance these products tend to create can keep you socially out of the loop - this is hardly an ‘alpha’ position to be in.

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**Author:** ![nfs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nfs/32/1656_2.png) [@nfs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nfs)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/14 "2006-09-12T08:45:37Z")

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Sigma,

Good point.

Can you describe your mix in more detail? ie. How much A314 / IO , and where . I’ve tried this combo before but I’ve not seen anything particularly interesting.

THanks!

NFS

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2006, 9:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/15 "2006-09-12T09:01:24Z")

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I find that Sigma’s assessment of A314/ANOL is spot on, only my mix has been A314 + LAM. I really enjoy the effects of this mix.

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**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/16 "2006-09-25T12:29:27Z")

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I wear androstenol around men all of the time, and I have never noticed ant negative reactions to it at all.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 9:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/17 "2006-09-26T09:24:11Z")

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> [@excalibur87](#):
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> Hello, I found this article on the internet and hope the translation is felicitous 😃 :
> 
> Men and women react differently to various smells. Men produce in increased concentrations of Androstenol and Androstenone (which are found in urine, fatty/adipose tissue and sweat from the arm pit).
> 
> Pheromones are substances, which are outward/spread out on other individuals and have a positive effect on similar people.
> 
> **Androstenol** (in the fresh urine and arm pit sweat) **works repelling/rejecting to men** and friendly to women. Androstenone affects both sexes dissociating. The rejecting attitude stops during ovulation!
> 
> What do you think about it, I have never head that Androstenol affect men negatively!😕

I have never heard of this article/study but are you sure they are not talking about Androstenone or Androstadienone?

As to what happens in real life, I think if you wear Alpha Androstenol without anything masculine/dominant (like A314 or -None), it can make your signature seem ‘wussy’/‘wimpy’ which can make some men (and some women too although this is less common) disrespect you a bit. Nothing personal as when you OD on None but it is disrespect. I have that problem myself when I load up on ‘comfort’ mones.

Generally though, Alpha Androstenol seems to be universally liked by pretty much everyone - man, woman and child. Oh yeah and Pigs like it too 🙂 - they actually are attracted to truffles that have Androstenol in them.

Visionary

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/18 "2006-09-26T12:58:15Z")

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Any guy should not wear too much laughing feel good pheremones like Androstonel or TAA (IS). It’ll just end up turning you into some goofy smiling candyass. It may make you in some instances the life of the party, but really.. there is nothing sexy about a clown.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/19 "2006-09-26T13:18:13Z")

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anything i read that defies what my own experiences are i naturally hold suspect.  
that doesnt mean that they did not have some kind of bad experience that they attributed to the 'nol, but to educate according to your experiences, one has to state THESE ARE MY EXPERIENCES, lol.  
i have seen no other scientific data supporting that 'nol is offensive to either gender.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 1:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/20 "2006-09-26T13:21:11Z")

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> [@Rob](#):
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> Any guy should not wear too much laughing feel good pheremones like Androstonel or TAA (IS). It’ll just end up turning you into some goofy smiling candyass. It may make you in some instances the life of the party, but really.. there is nothing sexy about a clown.

thats a man’s point of view towards women, but if you listen, women want funny over “composed” any day of the week.  
heather locklear thought david spade was funny,lol. id take his company over an alpha-badass anyday! 😃

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