# Does Androticsdirect have a Putative or Experimental Mix with Androst-A-none? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 21, 2007, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746 "2007-07-21T04:02:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2007, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/1 "2007-07-21T04:02:19Z")
I am dying to know. So jasmin, Mharris, anyone HELP!!! šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜‰ P.S. Hey, PM me if you cannot say it out loud šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2007, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/2 "2007-07-21T04:16:47Z")
Iā€™m pretty sure androsTAnone is one of the putative (probably earlier TA series pheromones). ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/3 "2007-07-23T01:06:32Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Iā€™m pretty sure androsTAnone is one of the putative (probably earlier TA series pheromones). Where is Jasmin when you need her? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/4 "2007-07-23T02:30:38Z")
> [@Matrixzer0](#): > > Where is Jasmin when you need her? šŸ˜ƒ Well Androtics is pretty tight lipped about what the actual chemical make-up of the TA and putative series mones are (likely to keep competetive companies from duplicating their products). ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/5 "2007-07-23T04:12:29Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Well Androtics is pretty tight lipped about what the actual chemical make-up of the TA and putative series pheromones are (likely to keep competetive companies from duplicating their products). It does not have to be a putative. If it was in a experimental mix. Divulging 1 phero will not compromise testing? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/6 "2007-07-23T08:09:42Z")
If you really want some androstanone, google it. A wholesaler, unmentionable on this forum, makes and carries it. I bought some and itā€™s good shit. Also LS carries it albeit pricey (I bought that too). ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/7 "2007-07-23T17:23:16Z")
feedback from a forum member here was that the wholesaler is not always so consistent wrt product qualiy. i think androstanone is one of the later putaitvesā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/8 "2007-07-23T18:07:33Z")
I only bought from them once, chemset bottles of androstanone and alpha androstenol. Both were well presented and effective. They were slow. Took 6 weeks. In fairness my last Androtics order also took nearly 6 weeks. However, Androtics will talk to you on the phone and added a few goodies to make up for the slow turnaround. I called and email the ā€œunmentionableā€ a dozen times to no avail. But they did mail the goods and they worked. ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/9 "2007-07-25T01:46:51Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I only bought from them once, chemset bottles of androstanone and alpha androstenol. Both were well presented and effective. They were slow. Took 6 weeks. In fairness my last Androtics order also took nearly 6 weeks. However, Androtics will talk to you on the phone and added a few goodies to make up for the slow turnaround. I called and email the ā€œunmentionableā€ a dozen times to no avail. But they did mail the goods and they worked. PM me the details of said manufacturer. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/10 "2007-08-22T14:39:47Z")
Hmm I guess no androst-A-none on Androtics pity ā˜¹ šŸ˜® ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/11 "2007-08-22T16:53:32Z")
I have a to-go of Androticsā€™ Androstanone that Jasmin sent me as a complimentary ā€˜teaserā€™ in an order a while back. So, perhaps itā€™s just a matter of time before itā€™s for sale at retail. ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/12 "2007-08-22T17:20:07Z")
> [@MarkL](#): > > I have a to-go of Androticsā€™ Androstanone that Jasmin sent me as a complimentary ā€˜teaserā€™ in an order a while back. > > So, perhaps itā€™s just a matter of time before itā€™s for sale at retail. Dear father in heaven, I hope so. šŸ˜ƒ I have big plans for that one. šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/13 "2007-08-22T17:55:17Z")
itā€™s possible androstanone might already be available to some as a putativeā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/14 "2007-08-22T18:05:06Z")
If itā€™s known [pheromone](https://a314.com/), then why send it through putative stages? Iā€™m exited about it though. . . ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/15 "2007-08-22T20:31:02Z")
> [@pheroquirk](#): > > itā€™s possible androstanone might already be available to some as a putative Right-o, Quirky, we have American synthesized Androstanone available. Itā€™s one of the putatives. > [@changazn](#): > > If itā€™s known pheromone, then why send it through putative stages? We send everything through putative stages to get _honest_ feedback about it. Sometimes people are swayed by just knowing the name and the associations with that name. De-labeling the molecule and taking away any pre-conceived notions helps us garner the feedback we need to make our consumer products better šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/16 "2007-08-23T06:28:24Z")
Anyone wanna place a bet? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2007, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/17 "2007-08-23T22:03:21Z")
Ok, Iā€™ve narrowed it down to p75-p80, mainly because of some hints that mharris left. ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2007, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/18 "2007-08-23T22:14:43Z")
> [@changazn](#): > > Ok, Iā€™ve narrowed it down to p75-p80, mainly because of some hints that mharris left. Hmm, dig some more. I am off studing. Jasmin knows the mixes I want just waiting to see if I have get them somehow? Cheers guys šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/19 "2007-08-23T23:16:32Z")
> [@P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197/35): > > [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and P76, if they end up acting pheromonally in a generative manner, may actually end up being stronger than androstenoneā€¦ so caution should be exercised. Iā€™d start very low with these. > [@P75 ... Oi!!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/8): > > Maximum dosages vary in a very extreme way. Caucasians, for instance, seem to ā€œoverdoseā€ with something like androstenone far faster than Asians. Meat eaters faster than vegetarians. Supplementers (vitamin takers) faster than "I get everything I need from my food"ers. If you OD on androstenone easily, Iā€™d say 20 to 30 would be your absolute max, with 1mcg to 10mcg being good ranges to experiment with initially. You donā€™t donā€™t OD on androstenone easily, 5 to 25 would probably be good to coā€¦ > [@Getting them to initiate - or, How about that CTTM?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-them-to-initiate-or-how-about-that-cttm/352/10): > > I have CTT2. Seems to work well once you get the conversation started. I agree with Josef that the most effective and potent conversation starter is a mix of eyes and smiles. Now, with that in mind I do think that a couple of the experimones have a lot of potential as conversation initiators. They are (in my opinion) p74, p75 and p78. For me it seems that all the women pratically appear out of nowhere with I have p75 and p78 (to a slightly lesser extent). -SwingerMD > [@P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197/25): > > I just started testing out p75. My initial trial is here: [http://swingermd.pheromoneblogs.com/2006/04/01/punitive-pheromone-trials-p75-part-i/](http://swingermd.pheromoneblogs.com/2006/04/01/punitive-pheromone-trials-p75-part-i/) This one seems to get a lot of attention and approaches for me unlike p74. It also seems to repel males. -SwingerMD ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androticsdirect-have-a-putative-or-experimental-mix-with-androst-a-none/4746/20 "2007-08-24T04:08:25Z")
Talk to Jasmin. The tube she sent me was labelled ā€œAndrostanoneā€ and not with a Pnn sticker. Thereā€™s no need for AD to reveal which putative has the stanone in itā€¦ IF Jasmin is taking special orders again! ā€¦ šŸ˜®šŸ†’šŸ™„