# does anyone have a recipe for "instant bisexual magic"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 9, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955 "2007-10-09T17:38:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jamesmathers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90ced4/32.png) [@jamesmathers](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesmathers)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/1 "2007-10-09T17:38:41Z")
okay, where i live in australia, 50 to 100 percent of the women appear to be bisexual or Lesbian, especially the 18-22 year olds or maybe thats just what they want ME to believe? 🙂,In “my day”,… i didnt notice that every second women preferred other women??? could be cultural too, aussie men r barstards apparently, and the chicki dees here r just sick of it, theyve given up, and theyve actually found out there GF’s turn them on more any way…so how can i get these luverlies to like me, rather than me sitting with a beer in a pub and being a curious and frustrated spectator, as i watch 2 blonde luverlies go hell for leather…see, the old gay stereotype was the butch lass, short hair, muscles, stubble, bikie, leather jacket, moustache etc and thus it never irked me in my youth…but.now, oh now, u r more likely to see 2 gorgeous very feminine young model types go at it with tongues twisted…and nothing gets me more fascinated, aroused, curious, disturbed, …then 2 hot girls expressing there love for each other…Mysterys dream was to have “2 hot bisexual girls , 1 russian, 1 asian…who loved each other as much as they loved him”…and god damn it if i havent had the same dream, every night, for the last 4 years 😉 so, what r peeps ideas? EOW, [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/)…is Cops necc. for any 4muls to win over Bi chicks? ---
**Author:** ![SBS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@SBS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SBS)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/2 "2007-10-09T18:55:00Z")
> [@jamesmathers](#): > > okay, where i live in australia, 50 to 100 percent of the women appear to be bisexual or Lesbian, especially the 18-22 year olds or maybe thats just what they want ME to believe? 🙂,In “my day”,… i didnt notice that every second women preferred other women??? could be cultural too, aussie men r barstards apparently, and the chicki dees here r just sick of it, theyve given up, and theyve actually found out there GF’s turn them on more any way…so how can i get these luverlies to like me, rather than me sitting with a beer in a pub and being a curious and frustrated spectator, as i watch 2 blonde luverlies go hell for leather…see, the old gay stereotype was the butch lass, short hair, muscles, stubble, bikie, leather jacket, moustache etc and thus it never irked me in my youth…but.now, oh now, u r more likely to see 2 gorgeous very feminine young model types go at it with tongues twisted…and nothing gets me more fascinated, aroused, curious, disturbed, …then 2 hot girls expressing there love for each other…Mysterys dream was to have “2 hot bisexual girls , 1 russian, 1 asian…who loved each other as much as they loved him”…and god damn it if i havent had the same dream, every night, for the last 4 years 😉 > > so, what r peeps ideas? > > EOW, Lust After Me…is Cops necc. for any 4muls to win over Bi chicks? I don’t think it’s only in Australia. Literally every single girl that I know ages 20-30 seems be either a)Lesbian b)Bi-Sexual (Majority of them) c)At least Bi-Curious. I don’t know if there is something in the water, or is it just a fad or what… I remember reading someone suggesting on this board the use of copulin products in conjunction with a male [pheromone](https://a314.com/) (single or a mix). I suggest you try it and let us know 😉) ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/3 "2007-10-09T18:58:10Z")
Try some -rone.. Just an idea which may have some theoretical value behind it.. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/4 "2007-10-10T05:34:25Z")
Tater suggests you experiment with 2:1 TAL: TAH from 1 mcg to 20 mcg as an accent phero. That means you use your signature mix or A314, Ammo, Instant Honesty, etc. if you havent figured one out yet. [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and MEO-EST are good third-level accent pheros once youve found the accent dosage that works for you. Instant Shine is NOT good for this type of mix in my experience. ---
**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/5 "2007-10-11T00:57:37Z")
Well, I think if ever there was a time for this stuff, it would be now… [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) mixes male androstenone, and womens Copulins. I would definitely tame it down with some social mones, the -nols primarily… Maybe even some instant gentleman to counteract? I’m thinking that the smell of -none would let them know that a virile male is present, the copulins may add a bit of “hmm, who is that?” to the mix, and the nols would make you apprachable, and put them at comfort talking to you. That is entirely speculation though, I have no experience with either Instant Jerk or gentleman. ---
**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/6 "2007-10-11T00:58:41Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Instant Shine is NOT good for this type of mix in my experience. Why do you say that, Tater? ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/7 "2007-10-11T04:36:06Z")
Tater doesnt know about women who are just freaky, but his bisexual friends dont seem to find [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) a sexual attractant. Just sayin… ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/8 "2007-10-11T04:37:05Z")
Whoa! Did Lor rep me? ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/9 "2007-10-11T05:44:25Z")
I still think some -rone as in A314 will drive them crazy.. any takers? ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/10 "2007-10-11T06:05:39Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > I still think some -rol as in A314 will drive them crazy.. any takers? -rol? you mean “-Androsterone”? how so? I haven’t had much luck with A314, myself. I think it’s a little too powerful/mature for my age, and it’s intimidating. Not really “sexually liberated” either like none or possibly p83, and those are the kind of girls you’re after, right? I think your best bet would be just regular pickup pheros like -none. I don’t think that you would “confuse” a girl or double your chances of attracting her by wearing cops or other feminine pheros. She’s not gonna see you as a hot guy and girl at the same time. just a guy. Now I do remember reading a post about a mix tacitus had that worked wonderfully on bisexual women (there was a whole thread on this, he called it “instant sexual magic” or something), but I don’t remember where it is. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/11 "2007-10-11T06:16:26Z")
> [@TRDE59](#): > > -rol? you mean “-Androsterone”? how so? I haven’t had much luck with A314, myself. I think it’s a little too powerful/mature for my age, and it’s intimidating. Not really “sexually liberated” either like none or possibly p83, and those are the kind of girls you’re after, right Yes that’s what I meant, sorry for the mixup, I had just woken up 🙂 I edited my original post. My suggestion was based upon information about women’s cycle actually.. there’s a sense to it (well if the info I read was correct). Perhaps it’s the ratio which needs to be different. Hmm there’s -Androsterone in Scent of Eros too, perhaps someone could try it. Or another mix containing -Androsterone… ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/12 "2007-10-11T06:20:31Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Yes that’s what I meant, sorry for the mixup, I had just woken up 🙂 > I edited my original post. > > My suggestion was based upon women’s cycle actually.. there’s a sense to it. Perhaps it’s the ratio which needs to be different. Hmm there’s -Androsterone in Scent of Eros too, perhaps someone could try it. Or another mix containing -Androsterone… alas, if only I had the money, I’d like to try just straight -Androsterone and compare it to A314. Perhaps Androsterone might present a vibe that isn’t quite as intimidating as A314 is. I’m still sticking by my theory that you just need a phero sig that says “hey, I’m sexually liberated. Come to me if you’re sexually liberated, too.” Probably the best way of attracting bi-girls who just like to have fun. I’d still like to hear tacitus’s opinion on this. EDIT: tell me more about this “cycle” theory, though. What would a woman’s cycle have to do with her bisexuality? And when and how would Androsterone take advantage of this? You speak as if you have experience with this. DOUBLE EDIT: Ooo, this might be hard, but what about bi-curious asians? My ex is 1/4 Korean, into girls, and just recently broke up with her boyfriend. We might have a little “rendezvous” in the future with a small chance of her friend joining, so any advice might help. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/13 "2007-10-11T06:24:32Z")
> [@TRDE59](#): > > EDIT: tell me more about this “cycle” theory, though. What would a woman’s cycle have to do with her bisexuality? Well on days 16 to 23 of a woman’s cycle, apparently her estrogen level drops, so she is attracted (research says) to more feminine looking guys or more nurturing guys.. and a post on l-s about the cycle described this phase as “she’s a lesbian”… so that’s where I got the idea to use A314/-Androsterone… like I said, it’s just an idea which may worth trying but may be useless in practice.. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/14 "2007-10-11T06:26:36Z")
True lesbians and bisexuals aren’t as heavily cycle-based in seeking or choosing relationships. Taters experience is that androsterone will get you hostile attitude, even from a friend, if youre a man. Anyhow, if you try it and see something different, im very interested in hearing about the experiment. ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/15 "2007-10-11T06:29:35Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Well on days 16 to 23 of a woman’s cycle, apparently her estrogen level drops, so she is attracted (research says) to more feminine looking guys or more nurturing guys.. and a post on l-s about the cycle described this phase as “she’s a lesbian”… so that’s where I got the idea to use A314/-Androsterone… Interesting. Maybe it’s different on you, but A314 isn’t “nurturing” to me. It’s high class, but not in an “I’ll take care of you” way. More of a James Bondish type. I don’t think of Bond as a nurturing kinda guy. More like “I do what I want, when I want, and do it with style.” Which, in my experience, isn’t as attractive to younger girls who just wanna party/have 3 ways (unless they happen to be into that type in the first place, which is surprisingly not as common as I thought.) ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/16 "2007-10-11T06:31:37Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > True lesbians and bisexuals aren’t as heavily cycle-based in seeking or choosing relationships. Taters experience is that androsterone will get you hostile attitude, even from a friend, if youre a man. > > Anyhow, if you try it and see something different, im very interested in hearing about the experiment. Not cycle based, but how about estrogen levels? Are they lower actually? I don’t know myself… Anyway it would be interesting to read about such an experiment… ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/17 "2007-10-11T06:33:50Z")
> [@TRDE59](#): > > Interesting. Maybe it’s different on you, but A314 isn’t “nurturing” to me. It’s high class, but not in an “I’ll take care of you” way. More of a James Bondish type. I don’t think of Bond as a nurturing kinda guy. More like “I do what I want, when I want, and do it with style.” Which, in my experience, isn’t as attractive to younger girls who just wanna party/have 3 ways (unless they happen to be into that type in the first place, which is surprisingly not as common as I thought.) A314 gives off a “provider”-ish vibe to me.. well the mutant version does at least.. ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/18 "2007-10-11T06:36:00Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > A314 gives off a “provider”-ish vibe to me.. I do tend to wear it with -none, though. So that could be my problem. However -none works VERY well for me, even in large doses, so I can’t bring myself to not wear it to a party anymore. ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/19 "2007-10-11T06:37:41Z")
lame. just got mod-botified. Well, you’ll see it in a little while, I guess. To summarize (and keep this discussion going) I usually add -none to A314, so that might have something to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 6:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955/20 "2007-10-11T06:40:45Z")
Also, I thought the two week mark in her cycle was when she responded to more masculine guys. Testosterone levels are raised and, for most girls at least, she’s her horniest (besides some who get that reverse-PMS insane sex drive right before her period). Maybe I’m thinking of days 8-15, though. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-anyone-have-a-recipe-for-instant-bisexual-magic/5955.md?page=2)